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I’ve been so stupid

175 replies

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 15:48

‘D’P and I are not from the same country. We met four years ago in his country and have been together ever since. Separated only by work commitments that horrible period we all lived through …. Last year I took the plunge and moved in with him, albeit as best as I can without residency in his country. The relationship has progressed nicely and we are talking about getting married. All good.

On Monday, he sent me an email outlining his assets, what is owed and savings needed for the future. All fine, there was nothing here that I didn’t already know. He has a house, and he is leaving it to the children of friends of his as he has no children. No problem with this at all.

Now my situation. It is very complicated… I have a house in my home country, which my exh is living in. I was away for work and he had been evicted from his flat so I offered he move into my house in the meantime. It also meant that DC was not moved from pillar to post and stayed in his own environment. During this period, exh was diagnosed with stage 4 cancer and is still living in my house.

i tried to get back on an even keel with exh as he was going through a terrible time, but he became highly abusive and very possessive - mainly the reasons for our split. Finally, last year, I had to cut ties with him as his texting went over the line into seriously dangerous territory. He is, however, still in my house as, no matter what an arsehole he is, he is dying.

so, back to my stupidity. During this declaration of assets at the beginning of the week, it dawned on me that absolutely no thought has been given by ‘D’P to what would happen to me if anything happened to him. I have tried very hard to build a life and integrate into his country and community, but it has dawned on me that he has not given one fuck about where I would end up if something happened to him.

Currently, it’s not about who he leaves the house to as I have my own house, it’s about the fact that he was happy for me to move into his home in a country quite far away from my own, with no regard to my security there. I just can’t get past this thought. I have mentioned it to him in an email, and he has gone silent, bar an email to say ‘I’m trying’. He’s trying what - I have no clue. This process is all currently exacerbated by the fact we are working with an 11 hour time difference so no real opportunity to call each other. I am also not minded to speak to him at the moment.

I feel so stupid. I feel so let down. Yes by him, but also by myself. I have scrapped so hard since my divorce to make something of myself to be independent - and I’ve given all that away for ‘love’. Sometimes I second guess myself and ask ‘is it really a big deal’, but I think it actually is. His life didn’t change in any way and he never once thought how mine was changing. WTF do I do now?

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Weallgottachangesometime · 02/06/2023 15:54

Yes I can see why you feel like that. If he passed you’d presumably have no significant relationships and need to move back to your own country.

Maybe you should just be honest with him and say how you feel. Maybe he is just being thoughtless and you can work together to get a plan to give you some security.

presumably you will sell/rent your home that your Ex is in at some point?

UndercoverCop · 02/06/2023 15:57

Well you have your own house, if something happens to him you'd have to move back to your own house.
The fact you have an ex living there isn't really his issue.

MrsRickAstley · 02/06/2023 16:04

I wouldn't marry him.

TedMullins · 02/06/2023 16:04

what exactly do you want him to do? I can’t see that he’s done anything wrong here?

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:09

@UndercoverCop its not as simple as moving house - it’s moving continents

@TedMullins i think there should be some nod to my security as to having moved 6000 miles to be with him

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Eleganz · 02/06/2023 16:10

Well the question is what provisions have you made for yourself in this situation?

What is it you expect from him?

momtoboys · 02/06/2023 16:13

Are you and your partner of the age that more children are out of the question? I thought that at first until you said something about your children having to go from pillar to post.

gamerchick · 02/06/2023 16:18

Where are your kids?

WilkinsonM · 02/06/2023 16:18

Why wouldn't you sell your own house and settle in his country though if he died and you wanted to stay there?
you chose to move to his country so I'm not sure why it's suddenly his responsibility to provide for you if he dies and you still live there? It might be different if you had no assets but you do?

Readyplayerthr33 · 02/06/2023 16:21

So you’ve moved to a different continent from your children and left them with their dying father? Because you had your head turned by a man.

I think you get what you deserve in the end really.

BreviloquentBastard · 02/06/2023 16:24

I'm genuinely not sure what you expect him to do? Why wouldn't you have an adult discussion about something like this before moving continents to live with him? Surely "what happens if something happens to you and I'm left alone in your country" is something you'd discuss before making the decision to uproot your life? Why is it his responsibility to just sort this for you with zero discussion?

theemmadilemma · 02/06/2023 16:26

What are you looking for from him? An insurance policy? That just looks a bit murdery.

His life has changed if you've moved into his property, that's a big commitment. But I'm struggling to see what you're looking for and why this wasn't discussed before?

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:38

@Eleganz this is the very point I am at. If we do stay together, I will be making sure I am protected too

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HundredMilesAnHour · 02/06/2023 16:38

Since you say you don't have residency in his country, are you living there illegally effectively? How do you expect him to make provision for you when you're illegal? And why should he when you have your own assets? I also don't understand why you've left your DC behind.

IhearyouClemFandango · 02/06/2023 16:39

Readyplayerthr33 · 02/06/2023 16:21

So you’ve moved to a different continent from your children and left them with their dying father? Because you had your head turned by a man.

I think you get what you deserve in the end really.

Well, this tbh. Presumably he assumed that you were an adult and aware of thinking this throughout for yourself?

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:39

@BreviloquentBastard yes, the discussion should have been had. I am upset that it never dawned on him in all this time that I have made the sacrifices and he hasn’t made any.

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Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:40

@Readyplayerthr33 where do you get that information from?

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Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:42

@WilkinsonM my house is for my children. They have their own lives and homes - but this is the family home and is always there as their safety net

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WilkinsonM · 02/06/2023 16:45

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:42

@WilkinsonM my house is for my children. They have their own lives and homes - but this is the family home and is always there as their safety net

Your house is for your children and his house should be for you?!

assuming your children are adults (I really hope so since you've moved 6000 miles away) they can sell the house after you die whether it's in the UK or 6000 miles away. They don't need the actual physical house do they?

LifeExperience · 02/06/2023 16:49

You moved to a different continent and you're not even married. You have no legal protections. If you want legal protections, either marry him or move back to your own country.

SparklyTwinkleGlitter · 02/06/2023 16:49

I think you need proper legal advice first and foremost to clarify your rights to continue living in that country, just in case.

I have a friend who moved to my current country for love and married her partner BUT he’s not originally from this country either. He has lived here for many years and has legal rights to live here now and has a grown up daughter and grandchildren here.

My friend thought she’d be ok as the advice she’d been given previously was she’ll be ok because they’re married, but then officialdom intervened and she had to leave or risk deportation so had very little notice to pack/sell her stuff.

It’s been incredibly stressful for both of them and he’s had to organise selling his house on his own and is now moving to be with her in her home country.

Ariela · 02/06/2023 16:53

If he were to die, what would be your legal rights to remain? And ultimately would you return to your home country and your family?

Feithofnote · 02/06/2023 16:54

@WilkinsonM please quote where I said I wanted house

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MorrisZapp · 02/06/2023 16:54

I don't understand any of this. What do you think your DP should have done?

ProfessorXtra · 02/06/2023 16:58

It didn’t dawn on you to have this conversation and it didn’t dawn on him to have this conversation. But he is the one carrying the blame?

What do you want to happen?

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