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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
EmmaGrundyForPM · 11/05/2023 05:12

user1492757084 · 11/05/2023 04:46

What an ordeal!
Could there be any chance that the girl is infatuated and upset about him wanting her to fix a broken mirror?
My niece had a stalker and they are crazed, totally bizarre thoughts and behaviour and hard for Police to do anything.

If Gemma is a crazed stalker, why does the husband have her in his phone contacts with a special ringtone?

I'm.so sorry OP.

Thighlengthboots · 11/05/2023 05:14

I'm so sorry OP. This all sounds dodgy AF.

I wish you all the best and really hope you and your children recover from this and are able to move on (with time obv), Stay strong - you deserve so much better, as do your children xxx

Susieb2023 · 11/05/2023 05:19

I’m sorry @WhatTheHeal what a horrible pathetic cliche he is. This had seedy affair written all over it, but tbh I think you know you needed out from this relationship anyway. I’m really at a loss to think of one thing he brings to the table.

Well done for kicking his sorry arse out. Stay strong.

You know you deserve so much better than this man.

Sux2buthen · 11/05/2023 06:17

Mari9999 · 11/05/2023 00:35

@AliceOlive
I don't think that the OP and her partner have taken any vows, so it pretty impossible for them to break that which they for reasons of their own have chosen not to take.

He was crying in his yard. The only people who could possibly see him were the people in his house or the next door neighbor. How is the fact that she happened to be a female of child bearing age relevant to anything?

He has a right to have personal thoughts and feelings that he can choose the time, place, and circumstances in which he will share. A wife or partner does not have the right to insist that you share on her need schedule. No one likes to be badgered particularly people who are hurting. It is sad when home is not the place that you can cry, and that you find more peace in going outside to cry in the rain.

Sometimes, loving means knowing when to leave someone alone

Sometimes, reading comprehension means knowing when to pipe down

Needapadlockonmyfridge · 11/05/2023 06:19

OP I sm sorry you are going through this. You will be better off without him, but being betrayed hurts.

He is an idiot

Indoorcatmum · 11/05/2023 06:35

Hi OP,

I just wanted to apologise. I think a few years on Mumsnet has made me very cynical but I should never have voiced that on this thread.

You sound like a great mum to your boys and incredibly strong! I'm so sorry it turned out to be a betrayal like this.

Take care of yourself as you heal <3

LAMPS1 · 11/05/2023 06:51

Well done for facing this head on and dealing with it so swiftly. The betrayal is enormous but the day will come when you wake up settled and happy that it’s all behind you, with him right out of your lives. Wishing nothing but the best for you and your boys.

AndIKnewYouMeantIt · 11/05/2023 06:52

It is sad when home is not the place that you can cry, and that you find more peace in going outside to cry in the rain.

Oh yeah, my heart bleeds for him. 😐

pilates · 11/05/2023 06:52

I’m sorry it’s turned out like this for you op. You did the right thing - sounds a bit of a line the stalker explanation. I hope he has the decency to tell you the correct version but I doubt that.

40tobeFunky · 11/05/2023 06:52

@WhatTheHeal I just wanted to say i’m really sorry to read this is how it turned out. I was hoping h it would be better news. Take care of yourself and your boys. Wishing you all the best 💐💐

letsgojo · 11/05/2023 06:56

We'll done for standing your ground. I never would've thought to check contacts so well done!
Stay strong xx

Boymama84 · 11/05/2023 06:58

I hate it when these posts have such a shitty outcome for the op

sorry for what’s happening OP stay strong you and your DC deserve much better

x

MajesticWhine · 11/05/2023 06:59

Sorry to read this update. Wishing you strength OP.

CharlieBoo · 11/05/2023 07:06

I’m sorry sorry to read your update. At least you know now what sort of man he is and you can concentrate on you and your lovely boys. Best of luck 😘

HelpMeHelpTheKids · 11/05/2023 07:09

I’m so, so sorry OP. I’ve been where you are and it’s awful. Try to give yourself as much space as is possible with two kids to get yourself together and take care of yourself. You deserve better x

Yerroblemom1923 · 11/05/2023 07:10

Hopefully you do get to the bottom of it all, OP, for your own sanity as can't believe his story of events Re "Gemma" being a "psycho". I'm guessing the affair started when she was much younger and he's worried about the repercussions of this eg village gossip, police involvement etc etc
Affair aside, it doesn't sound like he was much of a "partner" anyway. Never helping with the boys, often away with his "hobbies", never giving you a break away from the boys for yourself etc etc
Wishing you and your boys all the best for the future without this loser.
Really glad this thread wasn't deleted. They usually are.

Fmlgirl · 11/05/2023 07:11

What a lying, minimising sh*t he is.

He would have never admitted to anything had you not put two and two together about the girl and now he’s drip-feeding and twisting the truth.

I would dump him for that and daring to make out like you’re crazy for seeing him cry outside and sleeping on the couch to make you feel bad after.

FancyFanny · 11/05/2023 07:19

Yes, he's been having an affair with an underage girl who is now threatening to go public that he's a pervert.

LTB!

Yerroblemom1923 · 11/05/2023 07:36

@FancyFanny absolutely. 100% this! Do you have his computer etc still at your house as the police will no doubt want to look through his stuff etc when it all comes out?
I'm sorry this has ended so badly, OP.

MrsLighthouse · 11/05/2023 07:43

You found out . It’s hard. But here’s a man who is either a) having an affair or b) keeping a massive so called “innocent” matter from you. Whichever, l’m glad you have enough self esteem and strength to put yourself and family first . Wishing you all the best in moving forward.

NoPrivateSpy · 11/05/2023 07:52

Oh, OP, not a good update. I am so sorry. What an absolutely vile man but well done for being so calm and clear on what to do next.

Also a bit shocked the neighbour didn't at least hint that you need to talk to your partner about what he's been up to. No solidarity there then!

This must be an awful shock. He is a selfish, arsehole liar to the nth degree.

Beaverbridge · 11/05/2023 07:53

Hope you got a sleep. All the best moving on. He's a wrong un, but not your problem now.

determinedtomakethiswork · 11/05/2023 07:56

What a horrible time you've had. I'm so sorry. Do you think gemma is actually the neighbour? It's really common to change someone's name in a phonebook.

Meeting · 11/05/2023 08:08

How awful OP. The cheek of him to hand over his phone after wiping it. I hope you get the answers and support you need.

diddl · 11/05/2023 08:11

FancyFanny · 11/05/2023 07:19

Yes, he's been having an affair with an underage girl who is now threatening to go public that he's a pervert.

LTB!

Not necessarily underage but certainly young.

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