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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

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Coffeemaniac · 10/05/2023 19:29

Could your husband have become fixated with her and be stalking her, and she was telling him to back off. Could she not want to get involved with a conversation with you because she just wants the situation to “go away?” It sounds a horrific situation.

Christmascracker0 · 10/05/2023 19:29

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Me neither 🤨

ShowUs · 10/05/2023 19:30

She also couldn’t have been talking to him on the phone if he refuses to answer calls.

Yerroblemom1923 · 10/05/2023 19:30

Check his phone next time he leaves it charging etc don't wait until he thinks you know he's cheated and deletes all the evidence

Butchyrestingface · 10/05/2023 19:30

I tried to ask a few questions and she said something like “leave my family alone” or “leave my family out of it”, she looked at me and said “please”

He's been up to something shady. Not convinced she has.

ArcticBells · 10/05/2023 19:31

Just ask her OP

SparklingLime · 10/05/2023 19:32

ArcticBells · 10/05/2023 19:31

Just ask her OP

Just read the OP's posts before commenting.

Indoorcatmum · 10/05/2023 19:32

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GingerCoi · 10/05/2023 19:33

OP, I think a disclosure under Clare / Sarah's Law is a good idea. Given you say he never cries, it's obviously something that has really given him serious cause for concern. I would be worried that he has crossed a line criminally, perhaps involving a member of her family. I can't understand what else would make her respond to you the way she did today. Whatever the truth is, you know now that you aren't imagining anything and that this is probably serious enough to mean the end of your marriage. I really hope that you get some answers from either him or her. Either way, I would consider asking your husband for the truth again and telling him he can leave if he can't be honest with you. You deserve more.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 10/05/2023 19:34

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@Indoorcatmum

*I have a tiny feeling this is a very clever troll.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong as this is an awful situation*

Then surely you hope you're right?

Shapemyeyebrows · 10/05/2023 19:34

@WhatTheHeal I now definitely think he’s having an affair. Maybe with your neighbours relative? It doesn’t really explain why she clearly doesn’t like you though, from what you have written it sounds like she’s got some disdain for you so that makes me think it could still be an affair with her? Either way, something is going on, I think she will already have told your husband you have confronted her so I don’t think the “I have spoken to Jill, what’s your version” thing will work. I would just say to him you know somethings going on and you want to know what, don’t let him gaslight you.

SheilaWilcox · 10/05/2023 19:35

He can fuck off out of your house until he decides to communicate with you like an adult. If he can't do that then there's no relationship anyway.

seventyfour75 · 10/05/2023 19:36

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Why would someone make this all up? 🤔

DrDavidStarKey · 10/05/2023 19:40

seventyfour75 · 10/05/2023 19:36

Why would someone make this all up? 🤔

People do it all the time for shits and giggles.

Clarabell77 · 10/05/2023 19:41

BadNomad · 10/05/2023 18:37

Meh. Just get rid of him. He lies to your face and tries to gaslight you. That's enough to know your relationship is fucked. Don't entertain his nonsense any more. Your kids deserve someone better than that in their lives.

Totally agree! What a waste of time and energy.

OutOfMyPocket · 10/05/2023 19:42

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Yep

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seventyfour75 · 10/05/2023 19:43

Why would someone make this all up? 🤔

People do it all the time for shits and giggles.

How odd.

TheHumanSatsuma · 10/05/2023 19:44

My thoughts too

OutOfMyPocket · 10/05/2023 19:46

WalkingOnTheCracks · 10/05/2023 19:34

@Indoorcatmum

*I have a tiny feeling this is a very clever troll.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong as this is an awful situation*

Then surely you hope you're right?

Not that clever a troll or interesting a story

readbooksdrinktea · 10/05/2023 19:51

If this is real, why haven't you thrown him out? He's hardly home, doesn't parent, and is pining after the neighbour. What's the actual point?

spaghettimaretti · 10/05/2023 19:55

Here for the updates!

GoodChat · 10/05/2023 19:56

readbooksdrinktea · 10/05/2023 19:51

If this is real, why haven't you thrown him out? He's hardly home, doesn't parent, and is pining after the neighbour. What's the actual point?

He doesn't parent because they're not his children

Gh12345 · 10/05/2023 19:57

Playing devils advocate here, but is it possible you’re dramatising something that’s not really there? Trying to manipulate your neighbour by lying and saying she was crying… I can’t help but think this is all a bit unhealthy.

Feetinthemudandleaves · 10/05/2023 19:57

spaghettimaretti · 10/05/2023 19:55

Here for the updates!

OP has gone very quiet

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