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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Gagaandgag · 10/05/2023 19:59

She is quiet- but if this is real she maybe doing bedtime (alone) with her high needs children

PaigeMatthews · 10/05/2023 19:59

Why do people so frequently need reminding troll hunting is not allowed? There are very good reasons why.

op, without this he isnt an equal partner.

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 20:02

Feetinthemudandleaves · 10/05/2023 19:57

OP has gone very quiet

The OP updated the thread an hour ago Confused

She has two young children to feed, bathe and get to bed and a shit situation on her hands to deal with.

I imagine that's enough to be going on with.

ShowUs · 10/05/2023 20:04

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CharlieBoo · 10/05/2023 20:04

Also agree with poster who says to check police/Sarah’s law. All very odd

CheekNerveGallAudacityandGumption · 10/05/2023 20:05

I really hope I don’t come back to a blue message.

Blossombathing · 10/05/2023 20:07

Loan shark or similar

GlitteryFluff · 10/05/2023 20:08

Hope you're ok OP. It must be really confusing and stressful.

spaghettimaretti · 10/05/2023 20:09

Tbf she does have two kids to attend to, plus a relationship crisis. I too had the thought and maybe I’m not cynical enough but I reckon she’s for real.

TedMullins · 10/05/2023 20:09

This is really weird. I agree about calling his bluff and pretending you know more than you do - by the neighbour’s reaction he’s definitely hiding something

TheBeesUnwashedKnees · 10/05/2023 20:12

Yeah she’s dumped him.

NarwhalsTusk · 10/05/2023 20:14

Blossombathing · 10/05/2023 20:07

Loan shark or similar

Loan shark, gambling, drug dealing, fraud, handling stolen goods…something in that space.

Naunet · 10/05/2023 20:14

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Her saying to leaver her family out of it but she lives alone
And?! That doesn’t mean that she doesn’t have parents, siblings etc.

OP not going out to check on her DP when he was crying
because she couldn’t leave her high needs disabled son, try reading her posts.

The biggest one being that OP said he never ever speaks on the phone and he’s never spoken to her on the phone in all of the years that they’ve been together
Yet OP thinks that the neighbour was on the phone to DP?!
He speaks to other people on the phone, just not OP, she already said this in one of her posts.

If you think she’s a troll, report the post (although I’d suggest you read the thread properly first), but troll hunting isn’t allowed.

Wonnle · 10/05/2023 20:17

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GretaGood · 10/05/2023 20:19

Perhaps he had something going on with sister or niece of neighbour.

icannotsay · 10/05/2023 20:20

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 13:56

I don’t think it’s your place to go and ask the neighbour.
Clearly this was something personal to you partner.
Bit rude to go and demand gossip.
Give it time.
If he tells you, he tells you, if not - then not.
It’s up to him.
Don’t interrogate him more (or her).
It’s none of your business.

Are you usually this pushy btw?

Wow! It's definitely your place a d you will never rest until you know. My money is on an affair

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 20:21

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Right, so you've reported your Troll concerns to admin, yes?

To all the troll-hunters, the rules on this are clear - report it, instead of all the usual boring attempts at 'outing' someone.

Isthisexpected · 10/05/2023 20:23

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This is a horrible attitude. Just click the bookmark button. If this is someone's real life you are a shitty person.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/05/2023 20:24

Ok so re your update you know something is def wrong

To say leave my family out of it is strange

You have to say to him. I spoke to ndn jill and she's told me several things now I want to hear your side of it

Cheesecakeandwineinasuitcase · 10/05/2023 20:25

‘’I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together’’

After 4 years? 😮

FictionalCharacter · 10/05/2023 20:29

ShowUs · 10/05/2023 19:30

She also couldn’t have been talking to him on the phone if he refuses to answer calls.

The OP says he talks to other people on the phone, but not her.

SirTarquin · 10/05/2023 20:29

I tried to ask a few questions and she said something like “leave my family alone” or “leave my family out of it”, she looked at me and said “please”.

This gets weirder.

I think this means that either she has some family that you don't know of - a husband and children living somewhere else and they have been having an affair. She's ended it and he's upset and threatening to tell her DH.

Or that DH has been having an affair with a married relative of hers who has ended it and cut off all contact- which is why she knows about it - and he is threatening to tell partner/husband/wife or asking neighbour to pass a message.

The crying and the leave family alone mean there is some sex in there somewhere.

Waitingforthesunnydays · 10/05/2023 20:34

What’s a blue message?

NarwhalsTusk · 10/05/2023 20:37

CharlieBoo · 10/05/2023 20:04

Also agree with poster who says to check police/Sarah’s law. All very odd

If something like that was going on I can’t imagine Jill was calmly listening to Dave while he was crying - she’d have been angry, shouting? And she’s been friendly/chatting to Dave all this time while being offhand with OP,

My money is on some kind of financial dealings which have gone sour - some kind of set up which was amicable and good for Jill’s family, until the point it wasn’’t. Dave is implicated and Jill wants to disassociate from it.

Lsquiggles · 10/05/2023 20:40

How have you not sat your DP down and demanded answers?! This would drive me crazy, what is he up to?

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