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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Climbles · 10/05/2023 18:27

Maybe he’s having an affair with a family member of your neighbour?
or has a child from a previous relationship with someone in her family?

Delatron · 10/05/2023 18:28

Has the neighbour got a sister?

diddl · 10/05/2023 18:30

He's sounding like a bloody pest who won't leave someone alone after he's been told to fuck off!

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 18:30

Similar to a pp's suggestion, I'd go with a minimal, "So I've spoken with Jill. What's your side of the story?"

And blank any attempts to draw anything from you, until you've drawn his story from him.

Sorry OP. You must stressed beyond belief with all this. Your DP is being utterly unfair to you - whatever the story. He knows he's making you suffer, and he's perpetuating it.

SupportiveBigSister · 10/05/2023 18:31

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 18:30

Similar to a pp's suggestion, I'd go with a minimal, "So I've spoken with Jill. What's your side of the story?"

And blank any attempts to draw anything from you, until you've drawn his story from him.

Sorry OP. You must stressed beyond belief with all this. Your DP is being utterly unfair to you - whatever the story. He knows he's making you suffer, and he's perpetuating it.

Yeah something like this. Say I've spoken to Jill and I want you to tell me what's going on in your own words. Don't take no for an answer.

PinkCast · 10/05/2023 18:33

Very weird response by your neighbour.
It must be stressing you out so much 💐

TempName247 · 10/05/2023 18:33

He could have been messaging one of her family members something inappropriate, any young females in the family?

GoodChat · 10/05/2023 18:33

WordHelp · 10/05/2023 18:30

Similar to a pp's suggestion, I'd go with a minimal, "So I've spoken with Jill. What's your side of the story?"

And blank any attempts to draw anything from you, until you've drawn his story from him.

Sorry OP. You must stressed beyond belief with all this. Your DP is being utterly unfair to you - whatever the story. He knows he's making you suffer, and he's perpetuating it.

I think this a good way to approach it with him.
She's confirmed he cried (even though you already knew really)

FinalCowdown · 10/05/2023 18:34

Weird

BadNomad · 10/05/2023 18:37

Meh. Just get rid of him. He lies to your face and tries to gaslight you. That's enough to know your relationship is fucked. Don't entertain his nonsense any more. Your kids deserve someone better than that in their lives.

Mammajay · 10/05/2023 18:39

Perhaps " we need to talk about you and Jill?" We need to work something out about you and Jill? Horrible situation for you to be in

5128gap · 10/05/2023 18:44

Well while you're none the wiser as to what, you now know its something pretty serious.
Given that I think I'd be inclined to tell him he either told me or he left.
No one can be expected to carry on their lives together when something is going on involving other people that's clearly hugely upsetting and from Jill's perspective maybe quite threatening.
If Jill is concerned about her family you might need to be concerned for yours.

Delatron · 10/05/2023 18:47

Yes I think sadly OP you need to take this as seriously as it clearly is and there has to be a threat to leave. He is behaving appallingly- gaslighting you and giving you no information when there is clearly something going on. Be firm now.

WhatTheHeal · 10/05/2023 18:49

Delatron · 10/05/2023 18:28

Has the neighbour got a sister?

She definitely mentioned a niece (back when she was more chatty) so she must have a sibling, not sure if she said brother or sister.

OP posts:
Beaverbridge · 10/05/2023 18:49

Right, so you're a bit further on now. Confirms somethings going on somewhere, not necessarily with her, someone connected. Yeah you need to confront him as others have said. Good luck lovely. It's just bullshit. 💐

Wolfinthehouse · 10/05/2023 18:50

I'd personally go with, "I spoke to Jill earlier because I knew you were lying to me, are you going to give me the full story or I do need to go back over there again?"

Realistically Jill may of already spoken to your OH so I wouldn't want to go too far with I know it all because he'll call your bluff and come up with some shit.

SoTiredNeedHoliday · 10/05/2023 18:51

GoodChat · 10/05/2023 18:33

I think this a good way to approach it with him.
She's confirmed he cried (even though you already knew really)

Agree this is the best way to tackle it. You say just enough to ensure he has to respond.

This really is a bizarre situation

FabFitFifties · 10/05/2023 18:51

I hope you get some answers OP. So sorry you are going through this. I wouldn't try "tricking" an answer out of him. I would just give an ultimatum, "tell me or leave" . He can't stay and expect you put up with not knowing - the atmosphere would be very unsettling for DC.

LauraSaidIShouldBeNicer · 10/05/2023 18:54

I would knock back at your neighbours I honestly don't think you will get a straight answer from him.

Newmum777777 · 10/05/2023 18:56

I think he’s having an affair sorry OP xxx

Thelifeofawife · 10/05/2023 19:02

I’d be inclined to try to speak to the neighbour again.
You could say that she can’t just expect to fob you off, you have a right to know what’s going on, then you will leave her /her family alone.

It could be that he was having an affair with her and now it’s over he’s threatening to say something to her family/ex?
Or it could be that he’s been giving her unwanted attention and she’s feeling harassed.

If he’s not particularly secretive with his phone you’d be better off trying there before speaking to him, so you’re armed with as much information as possible

HewasH2O · 10/05/2023 19:06

You've only been together for 4 years. He won't let you phone him. He spends a lot of time on mysterious hobbies. He doesn't participate in normal family life or give you much support. It doesn't sound much of a relationship.

How well do you really know him? Have you considered asking the Police for disclosures under Clare's Law and Sarah's Law?

Twazique · 10/05/2023 19:07

Is the neighbour on Facebook? Might be able to see some family members if she is. May be a familiar face or spark a memory, you never know.

Twazique · 10/05/2023 19:08

Might be able to cross reference with your partner's social media.

Mumofnarnia · 10/05/2023 19:11

Twazique · 10/05/2023 19:08

Might be able to cross reference with your partner's social media.

Thats I really good idea. See if your partner is friends with her or any of her relatives on social media.

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