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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

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Mari9999 · 10/05/2023 12:04

OP, has it occurred to you that like your child, the neighbor saw him crying in the rain and went over to inquire.

Why bring your neighbor any further into your business? If this is something this he does not wish or is not ready to share, he will probably not appreciate your going to the neighbor.

To me, it seems more likely that someone who chose to go out in the rain to cut the grass may have been upset and wanted to be alone. If his feelings or situation involves you, you will probably know soon enough. Give him time, constant probing can become annoying.

Lemonsnlimes · 10/05/2023 12:07

This is a prefect example of men just refusing to communicate and punishing you as they don’t want to have the basics of simple communication, and then they want to go on like your insane , for querying them and going from asking to practically begging for the most simple communication and the time of day, it’s quite frankly ridiculous , the amount I am reading on these different threads you women have way to much patience.

Hairpinleg · 10/05/2023 12:16

I think I'd be done with him for the gaslighting alone. You saw him crying, as did your son, but he denies it happened. He then punishes you for even asking by sleeping on the sofa and refusing to speak to you. If it's your house, I'd be inclined to pack his bags for him. He thinks it's fine to lie to your face.

Mari9999 · 10/05/2023 12:18

@Lemonsnlimes
Even when in a relationship, you are entitled to have feelings thoughts, and emotions that you may not be ready or willing to share. This man stepped out into the rain to respond to his feelings. He is not denying his partner something that she is owed. Constantly inquiring is not going to make him share any sooner, but it may make him annoyed.

Chickenwing2 · 10/05/2023 12:23

Hairpinleg · 10/05/2023 12:16

I think I'd be done with him for the gaslighting alone. You saw him crying, as did your son, but he denies it happened. He then punishes you for even asking by sleeping on the sofa and refusing to speak to you. If it's your house, I'd be inclined to pack his bags for him. He thinks it's fine to lie to your face.

This!! I would be asking him to leave. A partner doesn't lie right to your face then gaslight you. He is lying about something and he isn't going to tell you the truth. Don't let him punish you for it!! It sounds like he isn't much of a partner anyway.

Softoprider · 10/05/2023 12:26

Talk about stringing a thread on ! Go and bloodywell ask the neighbour why he was crying and stop chuffing talking about it

Shhhquirrel · 10/05/2023 12:27

Mari9999 · 10/05/2023 12:18

@Lemonsnlimes
Even when in a relationship, you are entitled to have feelings thoughts, and emotions that you may not be ready or willing to share. This man stepped out into the rain to respond to his feelings. He is not denying his partner something that she is owed. Constantly inquiring is not going to make him share any sooner, but it may make him annoyed.

You also have to show respect for your partner, which he is most certainly not showing.

letsgojo · 10/05/2023 12:29

Softoprider · 10/05/2023 12:26

Talk about stringing a thread on ! Go and bloodywell ask the neighbour why he was crying and stop chuffing talking about it

How rude are you!

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ucantmulchthis · 10/05/2023 12:29

When you say Dave was 'visibly upset', what did you see @WhatTheHeal ?

Could you see his face?

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Here's an idea, and I mean this with the best of intentions, STOP READING IT 🖕🏻

Softoprider · 10/05/2023 12:37

Don't get overinvested in a thread mush

Oobiedo · 10/05/2023 12:38

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Don't be so rude! The OP has already stated she would ask the neighbour when she gets home. Don't read the thread if you don't like it. Sheesh!

ucantmulchthis · 10/05/2023 12:40

As for being incredulous that someone would cheat with their neighbour, I can understand the logic but it's faulty logic when you analyse it.

Some people will cheat with a neighbour because they get off on the thrill of it being so close to home. Others will do it for the convenience. Others know that the risk of being found out does not actually increase if you're cheating close to home.

Even if other neighbours see, people are very unlikely to get involved, so wouldn't tell you. He would know that you would be very unlikely to see him going into her house as you're at home or with your DC most of the time.

It's actually less risky popping into your neighbour's house to cheat than it is arranging meet ups where there are other people around who might see you and when you might have to account for your location!

FloydPepper · 10/05/2023 12:43

Mari9999 · 10/05/2023 12:18

@Lemonsnlimes
Even when in a relationship, you are entitled to have feelings thoughts, and emotions that you may not be ready or willing to share. This man stepped out into the rain to respond to his feelings. He is not denying his partner something that she is owed. Constantly inquiring is not going to make him share any sooner, but it may make him annoyed.

Ah but he’s a man. Not allowed to cry and therefore must be having an affair.

Yerroblemom1923 · 10/05/2023 12:43

I'm guessing she texted him to say meet me in garden. He needed excuse so said he'd mow lawn. She ended their affair. He's a bit gutted.
When you go to see your neighbour don't ask directly why Dave was crying, instead start your convo with "....so Dave told me about what happened yesterday...." and check her response.

diddl · 10/05/2023 12:50

Hairpinleg · 10/05/2023 12:16

I think I'd be done with him for the gaslighting alone. You saw him crying, as did your son, but he denies it happened. He then punishes you for even asking by sleeping on the sofa and refusing to speak to you. If it's your house, I'd be inclined to pack his bags for him. He thinks it's fine to lie to your face.

Good points.

NarwhalsTusk · 10/05/2023 12:53

Softoprider · 10/05/2023 12:26

Talk about stringing a thread on ! Go and bloodywell ask the neighbour why he was crying and stop chuffing talking about it

People aren’t living out their lives for the purposes of entertaining people on the internet you know?

OP can chose to ask the neighbour, not ask the neighbour, never come back and update the thread again. It’s her life, she owes us nothing.

NarwhalsTusk · 10/05/2023 12:57

Yerroblemom1923 · 10/05/2023 12:43

I'm guessing she texted him to say meet me in garden. He needed excuse so said he'd mow lawn. She ended their affair. He's a bit gutted.
When you go to see your neighbour don't ask directly why Dave was crying, instead start your convo with "....so Dave told me about what happened yesterday...." and check her response.

“Meet me in the garden…in the rain…in full view of your stepson and partner…for a conversation of half an hour or more. This will not look at all suspicious.”

Spookysnake · 10/05/2023 13:00

NarwhalsTusk · 10/05/2023 12:57

“Meet me in the garden…in the rain…in full view of your stepson and partner…for a conversation of half an hour or more. This will not look at all suspicious.”

Lots of affairs take place in plain sight and with people who are close to the family, eg friends/neighbours/in-laws. This man clearly thinks nothing of telling bare-faced lies.

Spookysnake · 10/05/2023 13:02

... plus, practically everything this man does already looks suspicious, and he's been getting away with it for years. He assumes he's invincible.

debbs77 · 10/05/2023 13:13

I really wouldn't ask her!

I'd start getting your ducks in a row within your own home.

Bank statements, mortgage details, etc etc. I personally would think he was having an affair with her. He knew she would be out there/coming home or whatever and hence the sudden mowing in the rain.

AliceOlive · 10/05/2023 13:19

Before you speak with the neighbor, have you thought about what you will do with the results? It’s going to be very awkward with her after this.

I don’t think I’d want to find out from the woman if there was an affair. Especially not if I had to live next to her.

I would be going back to him and saying, “I know what I saw. And the most likely thing based on that is that you are somehow involved with our neighbor. You can tell me yourself what’s going on, or I’m going to ask her about it.”

Had he not been such an ass since this happened, I would be more gentle.

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