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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Birchtrees · 09/05/2023 20:23

Why do you think random strangers on the internet are going to have the answers? It’s just so very odd. My first thought would be he is having it was having an affair. If you can’t speak to him honestly it’s not much of a relationship, is it? Sit him down and ask for the truth. If he won’t be honest what are you doing with him?

VWHoliday · 09/05/2023 20:23

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 18:17

A shit relationship is having to tell your partner your every feeling and every tiny detail about yourself.

Surely you should be in a relationship where you trust the other person enough so that they don’t need to tell you absolutely everything.

If you’re in a relationship with no trust then that’s the definition of a shit relationship.

And no I’d want to know if he’s having an affair but it’s extremely unlikely he would admit to that and instead make up a lie to cover it, which I’d rather he kept to himself.

If he says now that he was crying because he was in pain or tired then I doubt OP is going to believe him anyway.

I wouldn’t feel relieved that he told me he wasn’t having an affair if it was a lie.
I’d rather have the truth, regardless of what it was.

If you could be fine with your partner crying in the rain whilst mowing the grass talking to the neighbour without an explanation then good for you. I'd want to know why because it's weird and I couldn't be doing with such drama.

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 20:23

3luckystars · 09/05/2023 20:22

Hay fever ?

You're only about the 12th person to say that, and if her spouse had hay fever, she'd know, and he'd say if it was.

DividedHouses · 09/05/2023 20:28

Just wanted to say hugs, OP. This must be rotten for you. Reading between the lines, he's out a lot (you only ask when he'll be back so you can provide him with meals) and he's now flat out lying and rejecting you trying to sympathize and help. You've got to deal with child disabilities. Where are your hobbies and chances to go out? And now you've got to worry about what's going on with him and the neighbour (or not) on top of everything else. You can't leave your disabled child so it's not even like you can slip next door and ask very easily. You deserve better and he's a bit of an aresehole. Sorry. Also, just ignore that weird PP who keeps going on about how you're nosy. She is being vv unreasonable. You are acting like a normal human. I hope you can have a bath when the kids have gone to bed, and relax and look forward to things being better in the future - whatever that looks like.

Rosscameasdoody · 09/05/2023 20:30

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:39

Op, have you considered that perhaps she is a sex worker, and that he had invited her to accompany him on a secret stag weekend in Prague, but she has declined, claiming that he is a paedophile? He is now crying at the fear of being outed. It certainly fits with the observations. Has he shown any paedophile tendencies? Perhaps time to see a solicitor? No smoke without fire…

Uncalled for. Using someone else’s’ misery for sport says more about you than them.

Sailingaround · 09/05/2023 20:37

Sounds like an affair only because something similar happened to a friend of mine. Her husband she never sees crying was crying in the car with his daughter in the back who reported it to her. She found out years later it was because his colleague who he was having an affair with was moving back to Australia.

TooManyPlatesInMotion · 09/05/2023 20:39

I think @MysteryBelle is likely to be correct.

The only other option I can think of is a mental health crisis and he was out there sobbing before the neighbour appeared.... Ie he went out in the rain to have a good sob.

Clarabell77 · 09/05/2023 20:44

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

You must be in a very strange relationship.

Clarabell77 · 09/05/2023 20:46

Rosscameasdoody · 09/05/2023 20:30

Uncalled for. Using someone else’s’ misery for sport says more about you than them.

Agree. Could maybe overlook it if it was even funny but that’s not even remotely.

LostFrog · 09/05/2023 20:47

My first thought would be that she had been talking about something that brought back painful memories. Dh can be brought to tears by things that remind him of his DM for example, one of the many reasons I love him. But he would tell me if that were so, and you are not being unreasonable to ask, whatever anyone else says. Unless there are reasons we don’t know why he wouldn’t want to confide in you, and I honestly can’t imagine what they would be, it doesn’t look good. What are you going to do OP?

OhwhyOY · 09/05/2023 20:47

Thoughts that occur to me: as others have said, affair with neighbour. Alternatively if they are both local could she have reminded him about something/someone difficult from his past that you may not know about or is hard for him to think about e.g. wow it was 10 years ago today that your close relative/an abuser died. It does seem odd he decided to cut the grass when it was raining which I think would either be 1) spotting the neighbour out there and wanting to talk to her or 2) something happening that made him feel he needed to get out of the house right now to express his emotion and mowing was what occurred to him. Either way I'd speak to the neighbour and see what she says, but ask her not to mention it to him as you don't want him to be embarrassed about it.

jelly79 · 09/05/2023 20:48

There is more to their relationship than he has divulged to you. Whether that be friends in common, or a platonic friendship that you are not aware of at the very least

I'd give it a few days to see if he comes to you to tell you. Then I would demand an explanation

Clarabell77 · 09/05/2023 20:53

When she was on her phone could he have been calling her from the car? Could you check his call history?

IAteAllTheTomatoes · 09/05/2023 20:56

This would drive me insane. Hope you get to the bottom of it. From the kittle that you do say this doesn't seem like a very equal relationship.

User1438423 · 09/05/2023 21:02

I'm sorry but it definitely sounds like an affair between them. And bare in mind she may not have been ending it, she may have told him she is pregnant. It might not be her he is having an affair with, but she might know the person it is. It's interesting he won't speak to you on the phone but will to other people. Is that because he doesn't want other people he is around to know about you?

I find it really odd a poster was adamant he deserves his space and privacy after blatantly gaslighting you. I would demand to know the truth and not let him home until he told me if it was me. If he was innocent he would have no reason to lie to his partner.

It is obvious he had no plans to mow the lawn in the rain the first place. Even you found that odd, so I'm not sure why anyone is speculating that was the reason he went to speak to her.

GretaGood · 09/05/2023 21:03

This would drive me insane.
Me too
Poor OP. I hope you can find some support from friends or family whilst this is sorted out. Do you have someone who can stay for a day or two?

Tiddlypomtiddlypom · 09/05/2023 21:07

So he will speak to anyone other than you on the phone.

He is never at home to help you out with the kids.

He is on his phone, constantly, and won’t let you anywhere near it.

He’s moody and horrible to you…

And he was sobbing his miserable little heart out after talking to your single female neighbour?

Right.

3luckystars · 09/05/2023 21:11

She was not upset so I’m thinking she knows something and told him she was going to tell you about it.

Polik · 09/05/2023 21:15

Have you spoken to him yet @WhatTheHeal?

Fairylights7 · 09/05/2023 21:18

Sorry to hear this OP, sounds like you have a lot on your plate and hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel x

QuintanaRoo · 09/05/2023 21:18

Certainly sounds like he went out there specifically to talk to her under the pretence of cutting the grass.

She used to talk to you but now kinda avoids you (guilty conscience?) but still talks to him.

something she said made him cry? I’d assume she’s dumped him when considering previous points.

he’s now lying to you about crying.

LoonyLois · 09/05/2023 21:20

How has he been tonight OP?

cannaecookrisotto · 09/05/2023 21:24

Bit of a reach but could he have been laughing?
Sometimes when I'm laughing, I rub at my eyes (and if I was rainy that might look like I was crying 🤷🏼‍♀️?)

cannaecookrisotto · 09/05/2023 21:24

I'm trying to think of an alternative to affair on the front lawn.

Delatron · 09/05/2023 21:26

My first thought, before I read any of the replies was ‘affair’.

Then you provided more information- she speaks lots to him but barely says hello to you before going inside. Did you not think this was strange? I would have done.

He’s barely home (despite you having a high needs child - nice) as he’s busy with lots of hobbies - but you don’t know what all these hobbies are right? And you aren’t allowed to ask because he gets cross?

He spends a lot of his time on his phone. He chats to friends and family but not you…

You are a far more chilled person than I am Op to not question any of this before.

Then you see him crying in the garden after going out to mow the lawn in the rain - after chatting with the neighbour . And you still don’t think ‘hmm maybe something funny is going on between them’.

I am sorry but I can’t believe this hasn’t crossed your mind before now.

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