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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
HewasH2O · 09/05/2023 19:39

What are these mysterious hobbies that take so much of his attention? Are your children both his? Does your NDN usually stand outside in the rain?

Pin him down tonight and tell him that you are very worried about why he was so agitated and secretive all day yesterday. He's the only one who can solve the mystery, but you might not like the answers.

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:39

Op, have you considered that perhaps she is a sex worker, and that he had invited her to accompany him on a secret stag weekend in Prague, but she has declined, claiming that he is a paedophile? He is now crying at the fear of being outed. It certainly fits with the observations. Has he shown any paedophile tendencies? Perhaps time to see a solicitor? No smoke without fire…

midsomermurderess · 09/05/2023 19:42

She's now a a sex worker about to out him as a paedophile. This gets more and more loopy. You have invited scores of lunatics into your life.

HoofWankingSpangleCunt · 09/05/2023 19:42

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:39

Op, have you considered that perhaps she is a sex worker, and that he had invited her to accompany him on a secret stag weekend in Prague, but she has declined, claiming that he is a paedophile? He is now crying at the fear of being outed. It certainly fits with the observations. Has he shown any paedophile tendencies? Perhaps time to see a solicitor? No smoke without fire…

No need to be a dick

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 09/05/2023 19:46

The most logical explanation is the correct one. the neighbour ended the affair and he was upset, so he went to spend time alone in the car. Why on earth would he insist on mowing the lawn in the rain? Why would he cry in the garden after talking to her? Why would he need alone time in the car? He loves her more than she loves him and he was devastated. Sorry OP, cant think of any other explanation. I think you should ask him for answers and not back down.Something happened and you need to know why ( sorry, I need to know why!) Weirdly invested in finding out wtf has actually happened

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 09/05/2023 19:46

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:39

Op, have you considered that perhaps she is a sex worker, and that he had invited her to accompany him on a secret stag weekend in Prague, but she has declined, claiming that he is a paedophile? He is now crying at the fear of being outed. It certainly fits with the observations. Has he shown any paedophile tendencies? Perhaps time to see a solicitor? No smoke without fire…

Jesus wept

greyhairnomore · 09/05/2023 19:47

How weird. You need to confront him again.
Also very strange he won't speak on the phone.

Gagaandgag · 09/05/2023 19:51

How has he been this evening OP have you managed to chat much?

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:53

UnshakenNeedsStirring · 09/05/2023 19:46

Jesus wept

Sorry! I meant to say Marbella! My bad.

Gagaandgag · 09/05/2023 19:54

Sirius3030 · 09/05/2023 19:53

Sorry! I meant to say Marbella! My bad.

Come on. The OP is having a really difficult time. Take your unnecessary ‘humour’ elsewhere

Zonder · 09/05/2023 20:01

I'd be annoyed at his gaslighting, denying what your own eyes saw.

tensmum1964 · 09/05/2023 20:01

I admire your restraint. I wouldn't be able to drop this. Its way too concerning and like others have said, very suspicious.

Fruitygal · 09/05/2023 20:05

Many many years ago I had a friend who’s dad lived 2 lives - 2 families the lot. Only discovered when both women turned up to the hospital after a serious accident.

Perhaps the neighbour knows a secret, ordered him outside to ‘mow the lawn' and threatened to tell.

If I was the OP I would be looking at accessing the his phone to see if there is anything that explains what all this is about. Lack of calls with OP when he does them with everyone else is very concerning. Far easier to say you are somewhere else if you only have to text. Very very unlikely to be medical bad news over the phone or on a bank holiday. Denying he stopped mowing the lawn and getting annoyed is a red flag.

AtChoService · 09/05/2023 20:09

Have you spoken to the neighbour yet op?

MaryDoll84 · 09/05/2023 20:10

I don't know why anyone thinks that the posters who are suggesting an affair are being hasty. It's by far the most plausible explanation. Affairs don't happen out of the blue. The people need to see each other on a fairly regular basis in order to form a rapport, hence why they normally happen close to home..colleague,partners friend, best mates spouse etc.
No way would I confront the neighbour. I think the best option would be to get hold of bank statements, phone statements etc-see if he's booked into any hotels/ B&B's or lots of restaurants in the past few months. Also go through his pockets and search the car for receipts or anything else insightful

MysteryBelle · 09/05/2023 20:10

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 19:38

  1. he as said he doesn’t suffer from hayfever
  2. pollen is suppressed when it is raining
  3. he was crying before he started mowing the lawn

But most importantly

  1. why on earth would he not just tell OP he had a hay fever attack rather than denying all knowledge of his tears?

Alas, logic! Which is lost on many. Thanks for trying though. Some of us appreciate your efforts 😂

But hey, the logic deficient are entertaining at least.

“Maybe it was the wet grass pollen that he bragged he’d never had an allergy to. My eyes get all scratchy too and it irritates me to have to explain to all and sundry every time I get caught sniffling to the neighbor at the fence in the rain. I also get eczema on my elbows in the late spring so maybe op gets that too.”

“Why does he have to explain to his wife why he slobber cried to the neighbor for 30 minutes after claiming he had to go out in the rain to cut the grass? You all are very weird!”

”It is very likely the neighbor recalled dp’s memory to a long lost friend from nursery days whom he had failed to find in a ferocious game of hide and seek and whom was suffering in silence awaiting restitution, and it became neighbor’s mission to meet in the rain and chastise dp, and of course dp burst into tears. Feeling ashamed, he then endeavored to keep this little secret to himself and op is trying to pry it out of his grass and pollen stained hands and invade his privacy.”

”I burst into heaving sobs only during the random garden rendezvous with grass pollen and attractive women. My eyes are bone dry after sudden deaths in the family. Maybe op’s dh is the same.”

neilyoungismyhero · 09/05/2023 20:11

Occams Razor... I agree with the first lot of posters.

muuummypig · 09/05/2023 20:13

Mowing the lawn in the rain.. odd

GoodChat · 09/05/2023 20:15

Tell him you don't appreciate being lied to. That would piss me off. He doesn't have to tell you why he was crying but to lie to your face about being outside the whole time is out of order.

Doggymummar · 09/05/2023 20:15

It's no mow May there should be now mowing going on. Have I missed the point ?

SheilaWilcox · 09/05/2023 20:15

I could not be with someone that makes communication this difficult (and my DH has his share of issues.)
If you're not too intertwined with each others lives I'd cut my losses.

ucantmulchthis · 09/05/2023 20:21

So he was 'visibly' upset but the neighbour looked normal and was on her side of the fence. So we know that the fence would have prevented her hugging him or touching his arm for comfort. Normally when people are upset the other person will show at least some form of comfort towards the other. Perhaps not hugging if it's opposite gender acquaintances, but the body language of most people would show, surely?
You have to wonder why she remained unmoved by his distress.

DFWM · 09/05/2023 20:22

It's the gaslighting for me. If he had said "I don't wish to talk about it" I would respect that and give him space but be cautious.

I have been gaslighted so bad in the past that it made me feel like I was going crazy and I ended up needing to go on medication. It's damaging to gaslight someone, and there is no way I would put up with it again.

It's that which I would be pulling him up on straight away.

3luckystars · 09/05/2023 20:22

Hay fever ?

snowbellsxox · 09/05/2023 20:23

Really strange
Sounds like she triggered something
Sounds like he's having a mental breakdown tbh

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