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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Blondeshavemorefun · 09/05/2023 18:48

You have to be blunt with dh. Face to face so see his reaction

You were upset. What's the moment. You were crying - I saw it. Ds saw it. Etx

See what he says

If nothing /think it's a lie

You could ask for his phone but then trust has gone if need to check phones

Then go and see neighbour

Napoleonsjosephine · 09/05/2023 18:48

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 17:34

One detail I missed from the first time I read the OP’s first post:

OP goes outside but finds her DP gone but the neighbour still standing there (in the rain? was it actually raining at this point?) but is now on the phone.

@WhatTheHeal - did the neighbour see you or acknowledge you at this point? Does it seem odd she was standing in her garden on her phone?

Either neighbour received a call which broke off the conversation with thr DP or she immediately rang someone else after speaking to the DP

I’d assume they were on the phone to each other, him in the car. Her outside.

ladydimitrescu · 09/05/2023 18:50

I'd be asking the neighbour - her reaction will tell you everything you need to know

WordHelp · 09/05/2023 18:53

ladydimitrescu · 09/05/2023 18:50

I'd be asking the neighbour - her reaction will tell you everything you need to know

Maybe not. If there is some clandestine 'friendship' going on, she'll be well warned by now.

I really hope it's not that.

Angrywife · 09/05/2023 18:55

Hi neighbour, hope David was ok the other day when he was chatting with you, he was still upset when he came in"

It can be posed in such a way that you don't have to outright question her, ie "why was David crying when talking to you?"

She might respond with something along the line of "oh yes, such a shame his old friend died isn't it"

aloris · 09/05/2023 18:59

It sounds like he lied to you that he wasn't crying. And.... lied skillfully, considering that he looked completely confused about you saying you saw him crying. I suppose it's possible he just LOOKED like he was crying when he really wasn't, but I would imagine you know your husband well enough to know how to read the physical signs of crying. He also lied to you about taking his keys.

He never talks to you on the phone but "speaks regularly" to other friends and family on the phone.

He "has lots of hobbies and honestly isn't home much" even though you have an autistic child who cannot be left alone.

He does not like to be questioned about how long he will be at these hobbies or when he will be back even though this leaves you to take care alone of a child who has severe enough autism that your child cannot be left alone long enough for you to go to the other side of the house and look in the car.

When you approached him about having observed him crying and his subsequent obviously moody behavior, not only did he lie to you but he said he was only annoyed at "having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time" EVEN THOUGH he has lots of hobbies, which he engages in so freely, that he actually is not home much.

Whether he is having an affair is only one of the big problems here.

Malificent1 · 09/05/2023 19:00

Can‘t you just be straight with him? Tell him you saw him crying. You saw him with the neighbour. And you saw his car key disappear. So either he cuts the gaslighting bullshit or you speak to the neighbour to find out what is going on.

CabbagePatchDole · 09/05/2023 19:00

RuthTopp · 09/05/2023 17:39

I'd go over and say " I think you and I need to discuss yesterday ? " With a Confused look.
And see how she replies / acts.

You’ve been watching Eastenders again, haven’t you?

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 19:07

Thighlengthboots · 09/05/2023 18:38

Unfortunately he died a while ago, victim of x/y/z.

Nah. A man who doesnt cry to his own partner and literally nothing moves him to tears would cry about a random bloke he was at school with and hasnt seen for years and years? not buying it.

I rarely cry.
I haven’t for years.

I’ve been to numerous funerals, had many illnesses and deaths around me, watched sad films, watched awful abuse etc etc and don’t cry.

But something minor will happen and then I burst into tears.

I don’t know if my sadness gets stored up and then something just triggers it or if I can compartmentalise my sadness when it’s something like a death but not when it’s something minor.

I am autistic though so maybe that’s why but it wouldn’t surprise me if OPs DP was too.

Jellifulfruit · 09/05/2023 19:13

🤔

piedbeauty · 09/05/2023 19:13

aloris · 09/05/2023 18:59

It sounds like he lied to you that he wasn't crying. And.... lied skillfully, considering that he looked completely confused about you saying you saw him crying. I suppose it's possible he just LOOKED like he was crying when he really wasn't, but I would imagine you know your husband well enough to know how to read the physical signs of crying. He also lied to you about taking his keys.

He never talks to you on the phone but "speaks regularly" to other friends and family on the phone.

He "has lots of hobbies and honestly isn't home much" even though you have an autistic child who cannot be left alone.

He does not like to be questioned about how long he will be at these hobbies or when he will be back even though this leaves you to take care alone of a child who has severe enough autism that your child cannot be left alone long enough for you to go to the other side of the house and look in the car.

When you approached him about having observed him crying and his subsequent obviously moody behavior, not only did he lie to you but he said he was only annoyed at "having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time" EVEN THOUGH he has lots of hobbies, which he engages in so freely, that he actually is not home much.

Whether he is having an affair is only one of the big problems here.

Yes to all this.

Sounds like you have some pretty massive problems in your relationship, OP. I'm sorry. 💐

Thighlengthboots · 09/05/2023 19:14

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 19:07

I rarely cry.
I haven’t for years.

I’ve been to numerous funerals, had many illnesses and deaths around me, watched sad films, watched awful abuse etc etc and don’t cry.

But something minor will happen and then I burst into tears.

I don’t know if my sadness gets stored up and then something just triggers it or if I can compartmentalise my sadness when it’s something like a death but not when it’s something minor.

I am autistic though so maybe that’s why but it wouldn’t surprise me if OPs DP was too.

IF it was just the crying thing I'd agree with you but its not. Its also:

  1. He's ALWAYS on his phone but never with the OP
  2. He goes out to multiple "hobbies" and OP doesnt appear to know where these events take place and he gets pissy when OP asks when he'll be back
  3. He had a go at her after the crying thing
  4. He didnt even say goodbye to OP before work which is not normal for him according to her and he sat alone in the dark before work
  5. He blatantly lied to the OP about crying

If he was upset about someone dying that doesnt explain the above behaviours. One thing on its own isnt a sign but a pattern of behaviour most definitely IS

OnMyWayToSenility · 09/05/2023 19:17

Oh my is this an AI post? Never seen so much writing in my life !

Morewineplease10 · 09/05/2023 19:17

Affair.
My ex never cried either in the 16 or 17 years we were together.

  • Until I caught him cheating, then he cried every day for weeks at the prospect of losing her.

The fact he's gaslighting you tells you everything you need to know.

I'd ask her. Just go around and say that you know. If you ask they will both just lie.

No forewarning either of them.

There is a chance that it's not this but I'd say it's miniscule.

Agree with PPs, he doesn't sound like he treats you very well in any case.

BadNomad · 09/05/2023 19:18

You know what you saw. I would ask the neighbour. If she lies too then you'll know there is something they're keeping from you.

ChairFloorWall · 09/05/2023 19:18

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 17:34

A shit day that was so bad he couldn't sleep and was restless? Really? It's clearly far more that a mere 'shit day'. Much more.

Why does it have to be more? I have had sleepless nights and cried when I’ve had a bad week - sometimes life just gets too much.

Mikimoto · 09/05/2023 19:19

Perhaps he suddenly realised that you all live somewhere like Leeds or Sheffield, so burst into tears?

Modda · 09/05/2023 19:20

I would go and ask the neighbour.

MsFogi · 09/05/2023 19:21

I'd be asking both him and the neighbour asap to see if their stories match up (or not).

FictionalCharacter · 09/05/2023 19:22

“And yes, we’ve never spoken on the phone. He just won’t, he hates it. We message (quite a lot to arrange plans etc if he’s out or whatever) but we have never phoned each other. He does speak regularly to friends and family on the phone though. I don’t get it either!”
This is very, very weird.
Together with his being irritable and not home much, something is really wrong.

Gagaandgag · 09/05/2023 19:31

aloris · 09/05/2023 18:59

It sounds like he lied to you that he wasn't crying. And.... lied skillfully, considering that he looked completely confused about you saying you saw him crying. I suppose it's possible he just LOOKED like he was crying when he really wasn't, but I would imagine you know your husband well enough to know how to read the physical signs of crying. He also lied to you about taking his keys.

He never talks to you on the phone but "speaks regularly" to other friends and family on the phone.

He "has lots of hobbies and honestly isn't home much" even though you have an autistic child who cannot be left alone.

He does not like to be questioned about how long he will be at these hobbies or when he will be back even though this leaves you to take care alone of a child who has severe enough autism that your child cannot be left alone long enough for you to go to the other side of the house and look in the car.

When you approached him about having observed him crying and his subsequent obviously moody behavior, not only did he lie to you but he said he was only annoyed at "having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time" EVEN THOUGH he has lots of hobbies, which he engages in so freely, that he actually is not home much.

Whether he is having an affair is only one of the big problems here.

❤️❤️sending love op x

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 19:31

FictionalCharacter · 09/05/2023 19:22

“And yes, we’ve never spoken on the phone. He just won’t, he hates it. We message (quite a lot to arrange plans etc if he’s out or whatever) but we have never phoned each other. He does speak regularly to friends and family on the phone though. I don’t get it either!”
This is very, very weird.
Together with his being irritable and not home much, something is really wrong.

Agree that this is frankly weird and more concerning than the crying in the garden thing. One thing to be a person who doesn’t ‘do’ phones, but to be happy to speak to everyone on the phone EXCEPT the OP is a sign something isn’t right.

Also bring constantly out doing hobbies when OP has two children with additional needs is not a partnership. Even if he’s a step-parent, that’s not fair.

CatAndHisKit · 09/05/2023 19:33

Many people get hayfever from mowing the grass, especially if overgrown

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 19:38

CatAndHisKit · 09/05/2023 19:33

Many people get hayfever from mowing the grass, especially if overgrown

  1. he as said he doesn’t suffer from hayfever
  2. pollen is suppressed when it is raining
  3. he was crying before he started mowing the lawn

But most importantly

  1. why on earth would he not just tell OP he had a hay fever attack rather than denying all knowledge of his tears?
2bazookas · 09/05/2023 19:38

You and he have never ever spoken on the phone because he hates it. Yet he's always on his phone at home.

Red flag

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