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What could neighbour have said to make DP cry?

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WhatTheHeal · 09/05/2023 13:38

DP decided to go out and cut the front lawn yesterday, bit odd as it was raining and he hasn’t done it previously as it was raining but he insisted it needed doing, so he went to do it. After about half an hour DS1 went to get a drink in the kitchen and came back and said “Dave is crying in the garden”, I asked if he was sure and he said “yeah, he’s talking to Jill and he looks really upset and he’s crying. Maybe he hurt himself?” DS is autistic and is known to misread emotions etc so I thought he was wrong, but decided to go and check. I looked out the window and DS was right, DP was visibly upset and crying standing on the uncut lawn, talking to the neighbour. She did not seem worried and was still on her side of the fence. I went to let DS1 know I was popping outside to check on him (DS1 was worried and questioning me on why his step dad was so upset, and also DS2 is disabled and can’t be left alone) and we heard the front door open, then close again. I went outside and DP wasn’t there, neighbour was now on the phone so I couldn’t ask her what was up. When I came back inside I realised DP had taken his car key which was by the front door. He absolutely didn’t have that with him when he was going out to mow the lawn as he’s lost keys before and now keeps all keys separate and only takes the ones he needs with him. His car is always parked at the back of the house so I couldn’t go and check as I can’t leave DS1 and DS2 alone for that long so instead I just sent a text to DP “everything okay?”, he didn’t answer. I couldn’t call as he absolutely hates phone calls and we’ve never once spoken on the phone in all our time together, so I knew he wouldn’t answer anyway. About 15 minutes later we hear the mower out the front so I went out to see but DP just kept mowing, he had clearly been crying and still looked very upset. I waited for him to be finished and come back inside and asked him what was up and he said there was nothing wrong and acted completely confused at why I was asking, so I told him I’d seen him crying in the garden, seen him talking to the neighbour then take his car key, I said there was clearly something going on. Again he denied it, said he had been mowing the whole time (over an hour by this point, it’s a very small lawn and he definitely hadn’t even started when I went outside to look for him), didn’t have his car key, didn’t know where it was. He denied being upset or crying, but said he did say a quick hello to the neighbour.

He wasn’t himself for the rest of the day, moody and very short with me. I checked again before bed that he was okay and he said he was just annoyed at having to account for everything he does/every minute of his time and I had annoyed him when he came in from doing the garden. He said I made him feel like he took me too long doing a job which needed doing and told me to leave him alone and went to sleep, he was off with me this morning too and left for work without saying goodbye. He never does this even after an argument. I know he didn’t sleep well and was very restless, he also got up an hour before his alarm and went and sat downstairs. I didn’t bother following him as I knew he would just get more annoyed.

DP never cries, btw. Not ever. He’s very emotionally closed off and never shows emotion in front of anyone, including me. So this is very strange behaviour.

Do I leave it, or ask again?
Should I speak to the neighbour and ask her?

And what could she possibly have said/done to make him cry and upset him for the rest of the day? I know no one can answer this but I’ve gone through so many possibilities in my head and none make any sense.

OP posts:
Sasha46 · 09/05/2023 17:27

If it is an affair then it has been going on for a long time for him to be that upset about her ending it, considering OP said he has hardly ever cried.

ChairFloorWall · 09/05/2023 17:28

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 17:25

Yes, it is the most obvious answer. That's the whole point. It's the only really, really obvious answer. Nothing else really fits.

Of course it does! He might have been having an extremely shit day and started crying before the neighbour appeared!! If I was walking into my house and saw a man crying I would probably stop to ask if they’re okay.

saying an affair is the ONLY answer is just absolutely ridiculous - real life is a bit more complex than soap dramas.

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 17:29

Do not ask him again.
He obviously doesn’t want to tell you and so pushing him isn’t going to help.

I would give it a couple of days and reassure him that you are there to help him if he’s going through anything and you are worried something is wrong with him but he doesn’t want to upset you.

If he chooses not to tell you then that’s his choice and I think you keep asking is going to actually make him clam up more.

Hopefully he’ll tell you in a couple of days just to put your mind at rest.

Some posters are saying it’s to do with the neighbour which it may be, but I personally think he was already upset which is why he wanted to mow the lawn as he needed time to himself and she happened to say something which made him cry but she may not have said anything in particular.

I know when I’ve been upset before someone starts talking and it just comes out randomly. I too am not a crier so I think when it starts coming there’s no stopping it.

What is wrong with him is anyone’s guess and it could be a million things.
Being in debt, poor health, feeling suffocated, feeling depressed, stress at work, an affair, money worries etc.

TokyoSushi · 09/05/2023 17:30

How is his mental health?

The mowing in the rain is very odd. That, plus the crying, plus the no phone calls, plus the offhand reaction now definitely points to something not right at all.

CabbagePatchDole · 09/05/2023 17:30

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 14:00

Yes.
Honestly, I found op oddly pushy, nosey and intrusive.
I don’t think her behaviour is normal.
If someone would demand to know why they saw me crying, asking again and again and planning on going to ask other person, I would be creeped out.
I know were all different, but surely not all of you think op’s behaviour is healthy?

So, if your partner saw you crying and wanted to know what had upset you, would you find it weird that they were interested? Really? Well, I've heard some things on MN but that's a new one.

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 17:31

Sasha46 · 09/05/2023 17:27

If it is an affair then it has been going on for a long time for him to be that upset about her ending it, considering OP said he has hardly ever cried.

I don’t think it is an affair but if it is he may have been crying because the neighbour said he’d tell OP what’s been going on.

It may not necessarily be because the woman has ended things.

I also think he would have come up with an excuse about why he was upset if it was an affair with the neighbour.

Dweetfidilove · 09/05/2023 17:32

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 15:08

He does not have the right to keep secrets in a marriage, and to be short with the OP, or to gaslight her. And the neighbour's reactions will tell OP a lot even if she doesn't say anything. OP has the right to know. This is actually very serious and I don't understand people minimising it. If I were OP I would demand the full truth or else I'd ask him to leave.

Who decreed this madness? And in what prison?

You are still a whole person, even within a marriage.

This means I can keep things about myself, friends and family members secret, as long as it's not to my partner's detriment (detriment does not include his need to know everything just because we're married).

Sasha46 · 09/05/2023 17:33

ShowUs · 09/05/2023 17:31

I don’t think it is an affair but if it is he may have been crying because the neighbour said he’d tell OP what’s been going on.

It may not necessarily be because the woman has ended things.

I also think he would have come up with an excuse about why he was upset if it was an affair with the neighbour.

That’s what I mean cause he never cries so why would he over someone he
might be having an affair with.

Neopolitan · 09/05/2023 17:34

ChairFloorWall · 09/05/2023 17:28

Of course it does! He might have been having an extremely shit day and started crying before the neighbour appeared!! If I was walking into my house and saw a man crying I would probably stop to ask if they’re okay.

saying an affair is the ONLY answer is just absolutely ridiculous - real life is a bit more complex than soap dramas.

A shit day that was so bad he couldn't sleep and was restless? Really? It's clearly far more that a mere 'shit day'. Much more.

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 17:34

One detail I missed from the first time I read the OP’s first post:

OP goes outside but finds her DP gone but the neighbour still standing there (in the rain? was it actually raining at this point?) but is now on the phone.

@WhatTheHeal - did the neighbour see you or acknowledge you at this point? Does it seem odd she was standing in her garden on her phone?

Either neighbour received a call which broke off the conversation with thr DP or she immediately rang someone else after speaking to the DP

MsRosley · 09/05/2023 17:35

It may not be an affair but - Occam’s razor innit?

See also the wisdom of crowds.

EggInANest · 09/05/2023 17:36

I can’t see her choosing to end an affair in public, in her front garden, over the fence.

If she is local, might she have given him bad news about someone he has chosen not to talk to you about, like an ex?

Dweetfidilove · 09/05/2023 17:37

Cookiecuttercatastrophe · 09/05/2023 15:32

Is it possible he is struggling a bit and not wanting to let you know and went off to the garden to have a quiet cry. He may just not want to talk about it. Maybe the neighbour asked him if he is alright and that set him off or maybe she saw him cry and asked him if he was OK. I'm sure there's an innocent explanation. If he was having an affair, I don't reckon he'd get annoyed with you - he'd be more likely to brush it off and be all falsly cheerful. I reckon he just wanted to be left alone and got a bit antsy. Some men do prefer to retreat when they are finding things difficult and being unhappy can make them snappy. Hopefully he'll be OK in a couple of days. Try not to jump to conclusions would be my advice.

This sounds a plausible explanation.

GoldenFarfalle · 09/05/2023 17:37

could the neighbour be very ill and OP's partner be upset about it? Maybe the neighbour don't want anyone to know ... or it's an affair as everybody says. I hope the OP will update us!

BishopRock · 09/05/2023 17:39

Affair was my first thought. Then that he was very ill or potentially very ill.

RuthTopp · 09/05/2023 17:39

I'd go over and say " I think you and I need to discuss yesterday ? " With a Confused look.
And see how she replies / acts.

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 17:39

FWIW in 20 years I have been with my DH through various traumas, births, illnesses and deaths. The only time I’ve seen him cry is watching a Disney film. People can be weird.

Chatillon · 09/05/2023 17:41

Dweetfidilove · 09/05/2023 17:37

This sounds a plausible explanation.

Yes I agree also.

Sustainablelossofweight · 09/05/2023 17:42

Op could your dh be a gambler and the neighbour knows how deep he is in trouble? You did say dh goes out a lot you don't always know where he is. Just an alternative to the affair theory?

tara66 · 09/05/2023 17:43

neverknowinglyunreasonable · 09/05/2023 13:59

My theory is that she reminded him about the end of Titanic when Jack sunk that set him off.

Spoiler alert by the way.

😄

baddecisions11 · 09/05/2023 17:48

It is very curious behaviour OP. To be honest I would keep pushing DP to tell me what it's about and if he really wouldn't tell me I would ask the neighbour. Yes I am very stubborn

MysteryBelle · 09/05/2023 17:50

NarwhalsTusk · 09/05/2023 17:34

One detail I missed from the first time I read the OP’s first post:

OP goes outside but finds her DP gone but the neighbour still standing there (in the rain? was it actually raining at this point?) but is now on the phone.

@WhatTheHeal - did the neighbour see you or acknowledge you at this point? Does it seem odd she was standing in her garden on her phone?

Either neighbour received a call which broke off the conversation with thr DP or she immediately rang someone else after speaking to the DP

If it is an affair, and we don’t know for sure, but all signs point to it.

So, if it is an affair, he called her on the phone from his car. That’s why she’s on the phone after he’s disappeared into the car. He went to get into the car to compose himself and to call her and plead with her again. He knows he can’t stay crying and pleading at the fence with her indefinitely, he very slyly grabbed his key 🔑 to sit in the car. So he can continue pleading with her. This all makes sense if you can hark back to the days of your youth, young and in love, the drama of being in love, breaking up, he’s in early 40s and he’s in love for the first time maybe.

She broke it off it with him before the meeting in the rain. Nobody said she decides it’s a great idea to dump him at the fence. No, she has very recently broken it off for good, by text or phone, the day before possibly or even that morning. That explains why he would beg for a meeting asap at the fence in the rain, pretending to op that he has to cut the grass, and then spends 30 minutes at the fence crying and upset pleading with her. She is just reiterating her decision when she meets him at the fence. He realizes he is going to be seen so upset but he’s not done pleading with her. That’s why he goes to the car and why she’s on the phone.

FirstLaburnum · 09/05/2023 17:51

My first thought was that the neighbour had witnessed an affair and confronted him about it. Hope not though OP.

EggInANest · 09/05/2023 17:54

If she just happened upon him having a despairing weep in the rain, it could be anything.

Depression
Worry or misery at work / disciplinary/ redundancy
Gambling debts
Upcoming court case for drunk driving that he hasn’t disclosed
Health issue

Having been observed crying by the neighbour he then goes into his car to get himself together.

She is on phone seeking advice from a mate who knows about any of the issues it could be, or to gossip to mutual acquaintances.

ReadersD1gest · 09/05/2023 17:55

SinglePonders · 09/05/2023 16:51

Well excuse me for not knowing there were relationships out there where no breathing space is allowed.
I know there are strange relationships out there, but this is too strange!

Your posts are utter nonsense. Utter, utter nonsense.

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