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Husband been on a stag do in Marbella and a random girl has messaged me……

500 replies

Mumma2Ro · 06/05/2023 21:42

Some fake account has messaged me on instagram.
to tell me my husband paid for a prostitute when on a recent stag do in Marbella!
what the fuck do I do!?!!!!!???

OP posts:
TheLadyofShalott1 · 07/05/2023 11:26

RepublicanBecca · 07/05/2023 10:22

I have a big problem with people being called out when they use expressions like “no smoke without fire” which are in common usage. What is she supposed to say? She is right. You are being controlling and condescending for some reason. As though she has hit a nerve? Anything you want to confide to us?

I know I shouldn't bother replying to you @RepublicanBecca as it is only derailing the poor OP's thread even more. But just because a phrase is in "common usage" it doesn't mean that it is a good or justifiable phrase. You have asked what Starlite was supposed to say, may I suggest (at the genuine risk of sounding condescending this time) that she didn't need to use that phrase at all, or don't you agree?

Do you honestly think that saying "There's no smoke without fire" added a necessary gravitas to her advice to the OP, and if so, do you also believe that none of the other PPs, who didn't start their advice with that short sentence, were lacking in some way in there failure to use that phrase?

I had no intention of being condescending to Starlite, and I am very sorry if she took it that way. I honestly don't understand how I can be accused of being controlling - unless every person who replies to every OP in every thread, is being controlling when they say things like "LTB" or "you don't have a MiL problem, you have a DH problem". Do you think that those PPs are being controlling because they told the OP's on those threads what to do, or what their real problem was, rather than saying

"Actually OP, if I were you I don't think that I could get over that. I mean, I would try joint counselling first, but if he didn't stop doing that - or doesn't start doing such and such - I would have to LTB?

However, if you believe that I was being controlling then I doubt that I can change your mind, so - here is another phrase for you as you seem to like phrases @RepublicanBecca - (please) "fill your boots!"

Oh, and I genuinely don't know what nerve she might have hit, apart from the one I have already discussed too much, which was my nerve that is on the same neural pathway as my choices between what I think is 'right or wrong', or "good or bad', or 'appropriate or not appropriate' etc. Oh, and of course, I mustn't miss out on my 'sticking up for myself' nerve.

zingally · 07/05/2023 11:29

It's a bit too random and "hard work" for it to be a hoax... I think you've got to confront him at least.
So sorry OP, what an awful shock.

Mumma2Ro · 07/05/2023 11:34

Sorry it took me ages to catch up on all of the replies!
so I confronted hubby this morning…… I said to him someone messaged me on instagram saying ‘I’ve got Information about what your husband got up to in Marbella’.
he was like sorry, what ?
his reaction was genuine- and I believe him when he says it’s not true. He said you really think that little of me to believe I would sleep with a prostitute!
he said maybe one of his mates did meet these girls while they were out there, and maybe one of the guys said it as a joke ‘oh yea that big one has paid for a prostitute, the blonde one has shagged someone out here and cheated on his wife bla bla bla’
but he says it 100% is not true. None of it.
he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him.
I’ve blocked the instagram account and deleted the message. I asked for more information and if she had any real evidence ….. and she didn’t
thank you for all your replies
I’m sure there’s some comments coming about how I’m silly for believing him!

OP posts:
NoraBattysCurlers · 07/05/2023 11:36

International crime organisations have made Marbella their centre of operations and it now has one of the largest red-light districts in Europe. Marbella has become the go-to destination for British stag groups looking for strip clubs and sex.

What is the probability of him paying either a lap dancer or prostitute while on a stag trip to Marbella? Quite high.

However, the fact that you were messaged on instagram doesn't quite make what was said a certainty. Telling a wife that her husband paid a prostitute while on a stag in Marbella is like shooting fish in a barrel. It could be someone just seeing an opportunity to cause trouble and there is no certainty that it was well intentioned.

Sandra1984 · 07/05/2023 11:40

I would answer with a "sorry but unless you give me your name, relationship to my husband and reason for letting me know this" I'm going to assume you're a fake spreading malicious lies for god-knows-why.

I don't take anonymous tips seriously and I'm definitely not breaking up my marriage or accusing my husband for something I have no evidence of just because I got some random message from a fake instagram account.

I need evidence.

ParkCrescent · 07/05/2023 11:47

I haven't read the whole thread here but it often astounds me how niave women are when it comes to their husband/partner travelling overseas on a stag do. Honestly, wisen up.

Mirabai · 07/05/2023 11:47

Why would you be dumb enough to tell him the source of your info?

It’s highly unlikely to come from a random woman a club in Marbella club - how would she know the “big guy’s” first name and surname and be able to find his wife on Instagram and why on earth would she bother?

It’s come from one of your DH’s mate’s wives/gfs.

If your DH is a good liar you wouldn’t know.

Sandra1984 · 07/05/2023 11:52

Mumma2Ro · 06/05/2023 23:05

Are you being serious?!
how bloody judgmental are you, over a choice of holiday destination!!

Because Marbella is known for being a spot for international tourism that include lots of drunk English ladies looking for fun, pretty prostitutes preying on drunk men, strip clubs and bordellos hence the reason it appeals to the stag do crowd. Otherwise they would have gone to Cornwall on a fishing trip and celebrate their stag do.

sevenbyseven · 07/05/2023 11:53

Pretty unfair to call the OP "naive" and "dumb". She hasn't done anything wrong.

porridgeisbae · 07/05/2023 11:56

Of course he's going to deny it OP, even if he's done it.

We can't always tell if someone's lying, even if we think we know them.

If he has done it, of course he would appear deeply shocked as part of trying to appear not to have done it.

SergeiL · 07/05/2023 11:57

@Mumma2Ro

I am not going to say you are silly or naive. You know your husband and none of us know what happened. Let’s hope he is being genuine and there is nothing to worry about.

If I were you, I would be a tiny bit cautious and watch carefully. Just in case his anger is about one of the guys giving the game away. Really hope not though.

take care, good luck.

porridgeisbae · 07/05/2023 11:57

Pretty unfair to call the OP "naive" and "dumb". She hasn't done anything wrong.

She hasn't done anything wrong, but she is being naive.

Sandra1984 · 07/05/2023 12:00

porridgeisbae · 07/05/2023 11:57

Pretty unfair to call the OP "naive" and "dumb". She hasn't done anything wrong.

She hasn't done anything wrong, but she is being naive.

She might be naive but on the other hand I don't think a random message from a fake instagram account is evidence enough to confront her husband, what does she think he's going to say: "Oh yeah, sure I slept with a prostitute but I was drunk I'm so sorry".

Oneandonly22 · 07/05/2023 12:01

Mumma2Ro · 07/05/2023 11:34

Sorry it took me ages to catch up on all of the replies!
so I confronted hubby this morning…… I said to him someone messaged me on instagram saying ‘I’ve got Information about what your husband got up to in Marbella’.
he was like sorry, what ?
his reaction was genuine- and I believe him when he says it’s not true. He said you really think that little of me to believe I would sleep with a prostitute!
he said maybe one of his mates did meet these girls while they were out there, and maybe one of the guys said it as a joke ‘oh yea that big one has paid for a prostitute, the blonde one has shagged someone out here and cheated on his wife bla bla bla’
but he says it 100% is not true. None of it.
he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him.
I’ve blocked the instagram account and deleted the message. I asked for more information and if she had any real evidence ….. and she didn’t
thank you for all your replies
I’m sure there’s some comments coming about how I’m silly for believing him!

You know your husband and it’s up to you what you believe. It’s your life and family you have to think of.
What I find bizarre is how they managed to find you on Instagram with only knowing him is “the big guy” For you to be found by someone random then they have had no know a lot more information on your husband.

whereaw · 07/05/2023 12:01

What an odd explanation - someone said it as a joke but it's not true really ..,
Yet an offhand jokey comment caused someone to track you down to tell you

Oneandonly22 · 07/05/2023 12:02

*To know

MrsMikeDrop · 07/05/2023 12:02

There must be something to it (OPs husband might be innocent) because a person wouldn't send a message like this for no reason, so it's understanding what that reason is.

Tirrrrred · 07/05/2023 12:05

How do you know it's a girl? Name? Photo? Age?

Mortimercat · 07/05/2023 12:06

Mumma2Ro · 07/05/2023 11:34

Sorry it took me ages to catch up on all of the replies!
so I confronted hubby this morning…… I said to him someone messaged me on instagram saying ‘I’ve got Information about what your husband got up to in Marbella’.
he was like sorry, what ?
his reaction was genuine- and I believe him when he says it’s not true. He said you really think that little of me to believe I would sleep with a prostitute!
he said maybe one of his mates did meet these girls while they were out there, and maybe one of the guys said it as a joke ‘oh yea that big one has paid for a prostitute, the blonde one has shagged someone out here and cheated on his wife bla bla bla’
but he says it 100% is not true. None of it.
he is going to speak to the said friend who supposedly had a conversation with these girls…. My hubby isn’t happy about this. And I know him, and I believe him.
I’ve blocked the instagram account and deleted the message. I asked for more information and if she had any real evidence ….. and she didn’t
thank you for all your replies
I’m sure there’s some comments coming about how I’m silly for believing him!

His explanation doesn’t make sense. Even if one of the group did get chatting to somebody and made up some stories, how on earth would that random person then manage to track you down? Sadly I think it is one of the other stags wives or partners.

ittakes2 · 07/05/2023 12:07

The bit I am confused about is how did she end up contacting you and why? I suspect there is a story and a girl for whatever reason wants to create tension between you and your hubby. Maybe because he slept with her - or maybe because she wants to sleep with him. But it seems strange that an uninvolved woman would have a conversation with a stranger in a bar about a man she has never met and this prompts her to track down this man she has never met's wife...I mean how did she get your name?

JudgeRinderonTinder · 07/05/2023 12:08

He’s probably done it, OP. Some random person on holiday wouldn’t message some random man’s wife knowing his name etc without their being something in this. He’s hardly going to admit it to you and probably knows you well enough to know how to lie so it seems convincing to you.

It might even be that one of his mates wives has found out and told you.

Theimpossiblegirl · 07/05/2023 12:09

Sadly I think you are being naive. There is a good chance that this is true and he could be exposing you and any future children to very real health risks. I would need to be absolutely 100% free of doubt before having sex with him.

Nothingisblackandwhite · 07/05/2023 12:10

You f it has specifics as knowing where he has been it’s clearly info from someone else ho was with him . I would bet on one of his friends girlfriends or partners

Starlitestarbright · 07/05/2023 12:10

TheLadyofShalott1

Just stop mutilple people have disagreed with your challenge on a common phrased used . All your doing now is distracting from ops thread arguing with everyone your pov and derailing the thread in the process when really op needs support and advice.

Florenz · 07/05/2023 12:12

It doesn't really matter if he has cheated or not. It matters whether you trust him or not OP. If you do, there isn't a problem, and if you don't, you really shouldn't be married to him although I realise it's not always that easy. If men want to cheat, they will cheat, they don't have to go to Marbella to do it.