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Internet date had a girlfriend for the past year

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FeelingSad99 · 17/04/2023 21:36

I haven’t posted for years so starting afresh with a new username.

I am very amicably divorced (3 years now) with two pre teen children. I started internet dating in late 2020 and learned a huge amount. The last time I dated was 20 years earlier!

The first guy I really clicked with cancelled our first date on the day, then the next day there was a further Covid lockdown. We messaged for 9 months and became very close but then he disappeared and it later transpired that he was gay.

I had a break from the apps then last January matched with a seemingly great guy. He was a similar age, similar profession. We had the same taste in music, films, art, etc. It was just great. I met him a month later and the first date was lovely and we got on very well and kissed. He was my first first date in about 20 years.

However, a few days later he explained he wasn’t sure about the chemistry. Fair enough. I was disappointed but I understood and appreciated his honesty. The night before our date he had been out with a female friend until 3am and was hungover. In retrospect I realise this was a woman he was pursuing.

Fast forward 3-4 weeks and he gets back in touch wanting a second chance. He felt like he didn’t give us a proper chance. I really liked him and thought we were great together on that first date so I agreed and we met for drinks. He was super keen and we had another wonderful evening. The next day I get another text to say he’s not feeling it.

This basically went on and off for most of 2022. We would have an incredible date and the better it was, the harder he would panic and freak out. He was seemingly inexperienced, never had a long term relationship before and I also suspected he had mild ASD. I was patient and gentle with him.

Then he tells me that he and his female friend have become ambiguous in their friendship and they want to give it a go. I was upset but stepped away, asking him not to contact me again. They broke up and he said he wanted to pursue a proper relationship with me. I was massively hesitant to even meet him but he was very sweet and I agreed. On the date he announces that we can be friends after all. I freak out because he’s led me on.

We didn’t see each other for several months but he got in touch because he had my ticket to a future event. We ended up being friends and I invited him to a party.

After Christmas he wanted to meet as friends, which we did. I was willing to be friends because I had never met anyone who I had so much in common with. He was like my twin. We had the same upbringing, same part of the country a few miles apart, same cultural references. I just loved his company so much. During that meal he made a huge pass at me and we had a wonderful romantic evening. I didn’t go back to his place despite him asking.

We met a week later and he was completely different. Very cool and jumpy.

I just couldn’t cope anymore. I blocked him on Whatsapp. He realised and phoned after a few days and was full of apologies. We agreed he would leave me alone. He didn’t. I then sent him a very firm text that said date me properly or never contact me again. About 1-2 weeks later he texted to say he was thinking about how he had behaved. Another week later he messaged to see how I am. Another week later he asks me out on a proper date but doesn’t confirm specific details.

This weekend he was replying in a slightly different way. I asked him for reassurance. He says he’s still sorting his life out. He then confesses that he has a girlfriend who I suspect he was seeing from the beginning. This is the friend who he was ambiguous with before.

Previously they broke up because he says he has this huge emotional connection to her but he doesn’t fancy her and he can’t get aroused by her. He says this is still all an issue but clearly he can’t seem to break up with her. He says it’s complicated and changing and he can’t date me because he’s with her.

I feel like such a fool. I have been wishing and hoping for a proper relationship with him for over a year. I’m wondering if he was actually with her all this time.

He has lied and cheated a lot.

My stupid heart still has feelings for him. I don’t know why I can’t stop caring about him and move on. I only found out yesterday. I’m so heartbroken and confused by the whole thing.

Any thoughts or advice welcome. There is loads more to it but I appreciate this is already long and I can answer if you have questions. Thank you.

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OneMoreCookieMonster · 19/04/2023 14:08

Fair enough. Dad that's there's more than one out there like that.

I hope that you're able to heal quickly and walk away from this guy. All he will do is erode who are as a person. You deserve better. And, you will find better. He's game playing and has a strong need for validation in himself. You don't need owe him anything .

FeelingSad99 · 19/04/2023 16:16

Thanks everyone. I’m going to reply to everything in one place if that’s okay.

I agree that I definitely can’t be friends with him. He previously kept asking for us to be friends but he doesn’t treat me as a friend. He doesn’t ask about me very much. Also, I couldn’t bear the feeling of being friends with him while he has a girlfriend.

I haven’t blocked him via every channel yet.

Yes he is short! And balding.

Yes he has told loads of lies and I can’t recognise when he’s lying. So how can I ever have a friendship or a relationship with someone like that.

Yes he kind of lies in plain sight. He overshares and is so open that he kind of normalises his bad behaviour.

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Catoo · 19/04/2023 17:18

Time for a full on NC block OP. You need to go cold turkey on this and escape the addiction.

You never had anything real with this arsehole and never will.

Give yourself the peace of knowing he can’t send you any more self indulgent bullshit. You’ll start to feel more free each NC day.
x

FeelingSad99 · 22/04/2023 23:45

Thanks everyone for your support. It’s almost a week since I found out. I’m feeling better than I did on day one but it still really hurts and I’m getting waves of sadness when I let myself think about it. I think it’s a combination of the destruction of the hope that I previously had that we would be together. Plus the shock of realising that I was living in a parallel reality for 14 months.

He hasn’t tried to contact me since I tried to clarify things on Tuesday and I confronted him.

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OldFan · 23/04/2023 00:16

You'll feel better if you actually block him @FeelingSad99 .

Quartzrain · 23/04/2023 05:20

What a Class A arsehole. Sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it. Possibly many cakes, you may not be the only one he's messing around. Tell him to shove off. You deserve BETTER!

TheShellBeach · 23/04/2023 09:34

I'm sorry you're feeling so unhappy.
Have you blocked him?

OneMoreCookieMonster · 23/04/2023 10:28

He won't be in contact just yet, but he will eventually make contact again. He doesn't want to be confronted with the truth. He won't ever fully admit what he's done. He can't otherwise his image and who makes himself our to be will fall a part. Typical of this sort of man.

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:02

TheShellBeach · 23/04/2023 09:34

I'm sorry you're feeling so unhappy.
Have you blocked him?

He was originally blocked on Whatsapp but when I went through all of his messages the other day I accidentally unblocked him.
To be completely honest, and I know that 99% of people won’t understand this at all, but blocking people is something I have never done before and I find it really distressing. I think it impacts me emotionally.
I would be incredibly upset if someone blocked me. I find it aggressive and immature (if I do it. I’m not judging others who need to do it).
I would be more comfortable keeping him unblocked and dealing with the consequences of that.
20 years ago we couldn’t block people if they contacted us via the house phone or letters or if they visited the house.
I just struggle with it.

I think it’s also because I have this insatiable desire for knowledge and the truth. I seek information. So if I have blocked him then I won’t know the truth of the situation if he tries to contact me.

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FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:08

OneMoreCookieMonster · 23/04/2023 10:28

He won't be in contact just yet, but he will eventually make contact again. He doesn't want to be confronted with the truth. He won't ever fully admit what he's done. He can't otherwise his image and who makes himself our to be will fall a part. Typical of this sort of man.

I think he has a shallow identity. I actually made a piece of art called ‘Identity’ that was inspired by his lack of identity. I think if you don’t know who you are as a person then you’re reliant on validation from others.

My ex-boyfriend from 22-25 cheated on me right at the end of our relationship but I didn’t know, he broke up with me because he wanted to be single 🙄. We had a period apart and then became very close friends again, with excellent boundaries. My ex husband and I went to his wedding and vice versa. Years later I found out that he cheated on me with her (when she casually mentioned their anniversary date, which was before we split up! He said they got together 3 months later). She never knew and still doesn’t know. I confronted him about it privately and he completely denied it. I was nice about it and gave him every chance to come clean. I chose to stay friends with him anyway but I can totally see how my recent guy will also deny anything because it affects his self image, as you say.

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Anaemiafog · 23/04/2023 11:33

Fuck me, why are you trying to give this prick excuses for treating you so appallingly?
Stop allowing him any access to you because he has no respect when you attempt to put boundaries in place and you give in. If you believe you're the only one he's sexually attracted to and that you offer every thing he wants but he's choosing others when there are no real ties (marriage, mortgage, DC) you're beyond help and going forward you have to accept that you're the OW and an ego boost to him.

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:44

Anaemiafog · 23/04/2023 11:33

Fuck me, why are you trying to give this prick excuses for treating you so appallingly?
Stop allowing him any access to you because he has no respect when you attempt to put boundaries in place and you give in. If you believe you're the only one he's sexually attracted to and that you offer every thing he wants but he's choosing others when there are no real ties (marriage, mortgage, DC) you're beyond help and going forward you have to accept that you're the OW and an ego boost to him.

I have no intention of ever getting involved with him again. He has a girlfriend. He pretended to me that they were friends and that he didn’t fancy her. He has pretty much admitted that he’s having sex with her.
I have zero interest in being involved with someone who already has a partner.
He has lied to my face for 14 months. I could NEVER trust him ever again. He’s an accomplished liar - it’s scary.
I’m still trying to decide whether to approach his girlfriend with all of this. He implied that it’s a complicated, unorthodox relationship but my gut feeling is that she doesn’t know and he was cheating on her. However, I don’t want to hurt her and I don’t want to make a fool of myself. I also don’t want to do something underhand or inappropriate. I want to live by my values.

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FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:46

I also understand that relationships are complex and can be transactional. I know she has a visa situation. Maybe she’s turning a blind eye so she can marry him and stay here. I don’t know. Maybe me telling her will force her hand and ruin her life.

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FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:47

The thing that I am most upset and angry about is that I waited 14 months and took his scraps. I was lonely in that time. That whole time he was cosy with a girlfriend and had lovely emotional support while he kept pulling me back in and ensuring that I was still there. He knew exactly how I felt about him. I feel like he stole 14 months of my life.

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KillerSandy · 23/04/2023 11:57

You don't just accidentally unblock someone. You obviously want the drama still or to continue the thread so you can talk about him. There really is nothing else anyone can say. One day you will realise. Overthinking like this comes up with crazier ideas than what it probably is. He doesn't want a relationship. It's simple. Many of us have been in similar situations.

kirinm · 23/04/2023 12:23

@FeelingSad99 20 years ago you could absolutely block someone.

Why shouldn't you take this course of action. He's literally given you endless reasons to. I think like a PP have said, you don't want this to end. You're hoping for apologies and a way to make it happen.

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 12:46

KillerSandy · 23/04/2023 11:57

You don't just accidentally unblock someone. You obviously want the drama still or to continue the thread so you can talk about him. There really is nothing else anyone can say. One day you will realise. Overthinking like this comes up with crazier ideas than what it probably is. He doesn't want a relationship. It's simple. Many of us have been in similar situations.

He does want a relationship… with his girlfriend!

I definitely don’t want any drama. I just want peace and to be happy.

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FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 12:46

kirinm · 23/04/2023 12:23

@FeelingSad99 20 years ago you could absolutely block someone.

Why shouldn't you take this course of action. He's literally given you endless reasons to. I think like a PP have said, you don't want this to end. You're hoping for apologies and a way to make it happen.

When I said 20 years ago, I meant before mobiles! I meant 30 years ago!

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Doversole7 · 23/04/2023 12:53

It’s sounds like you have become completely obsessed with him. You need to completely go cold Turkey because to everyone reading this, he just comes across as a complete arsehole!

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 13:00

Doversole7 · 23/04/2023 12:53

It’s sounds like you have become completely obsessed with him. You need to completely go cold Turkey because to everyone reading this, he just comes across as a complete arsehole!

He is an arsehole.

I fell for him. I thought he was single but quirky. He was a cheat.

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Doversole7 · 23/04/2023 13:15

He was but shit happens and it’s now time to let it go and move on. I learnt very quickly in the dating world to never give people another chance once they let you down and I think that would be wise for you too.

Tabby87 · 23/04/2023 14:01

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:02

He was originally blocked on Whatsapp but when I went through all of his messages the other day I accidentally unblocked him.
To be completely honest, and I know that 99% of people won’t understand this at all, but blocking people is something I have never done before and I find it really distressing. I think it impacts me emotionally.
I would be incredibly upset if someone blocked me. I find it aggressive and immature (if I do it. I’m not judging others who need to do it).
I would be more comfortable keeping him unblocked and dealing with the consequences of that.
20 years ago we couldn’t block people if they contacted us via the house phone or letters or if they visited the house.
I just struggle with it.

I think it’s also because I have this insatiable desire for knowledge and the truth. I seek information. So if I have blocked him then I won’t know the truth of the situation if he tries to contact me.

I you 'accidentally' unblocked him you would block again. You just want him to contact you.

Tabby87 · 23/04/2023 14:05

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 11:46

I also understand that relationships are complex and can be transactional. I know she has a visa situation. Maybe she’s turning a blind eye so she can marry him and stay here. I don’t know. Maybe me telling her will force her hand and ruin her life.

Glenn Close GIF

This sounds pretty Fatal Attraction.

FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 14:06

Tabby87 · 23/04/2023 14:05

This sounds pretty Fatal Attraction.

Ha! I mean I don’t want to tell her in case it ruins things for her!!

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FeelingSad99 · 23/04/2023 14:08

She is as innocent in this as I am. He is the one who has behaved badly. I don’t have a problem with her at all.

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