Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Relationships

Mumsnet has not checked the qualifications of anyone posting here. If you need help urgently or expert advice, please see our domestic violence webguide and/or relationships webguide. Many Mumsnetters experiencing domestic abuse have found this thread helpful: Listen up, everybody

Internet date had a girlfriend for the past year

325 replies

FeelingSad99 · 17/04/2023 21:36

I haven’t posted for years so starting afresh with a new username.

I am very amicably divorced (3 years now) with two pre teen children. I started internet dating in late 2020 and learned a huge amount. The last time I dated was 20 years earlier!

The first guy I really clicked with cancelled our first date on the day, then the next day there was a further Covid lockdown. We messaged for 9 months and became very close but then he disappeared and it later transpired that he was gay.

I had a break from the apps then last January matched with a seemingly great guy. He was a similar age, similar profession. We had the same taste in music, films, art, etc. It was just great. I met him a month later and the first date was lovely and we got on very well and kissed. He was my first first date in about 20 years.

However, a few days later he explained he wasn’t sure about the chemistry. Fair enough. I was disappointed but I understood and appreciated his honesty. The night before our date he had been out with a female friend until 3am and was hungover. In retrospect I realise this was a woman he was pursuing.

Fast forward 3-4 weeks and he gets back in touch wanting a second chance. He felt like he didn’t give us a proper chance. I really liked him and thought we were great together on that first date so I agreed and we met for drinks. He was super keen and we had another wonderful evening. The next day I get another text to say he’s not feeling it.

This basically went on and off for most of 2022. We would have an incredible date and the better it was, the harder he would panic and freak out. He was seemingly inexperienced, never had a long term relationship before and I also suspected he had mild ASD. I was patient and gentle with him.

Then he tells me that he and his female friend have become ambiguous in their friendship and they want to give it a go. I was upset but stepped away, asking him not to contact me again. They broke up and he said he wanted to pursue a proper relationship with me. I was massively hesitant to even meet him but he was very sweet and I agreed. On the date he announces that we can be friends after all. I freak out because he’s led me on.

We didn’t see each other for several months but he got in touch because he had my ticket to a future event. We ended up being friends and I invited him to a party.

After Christmas he wanted to meet as friends, which we did. I was willing to be friends because I had never met anyone who I had so much in common with. He was like my twin. We had the same upbringing, same part of the country a few miles apart, same cultural references. I just loved his company so much. During that meal he made a huge pass at me and we had a wonderful romantic evening. I didn’t go back to his place despite him asking.

We met a week later and he was completely different. Very cool and jumpy.

I just couldn’t cope anymore. I blocked him on Whatsapp. He realised and phoned after a few days and was full of apologies. We agreed he would leave me alone. He didn’t. I then sent him a very firm text that said date me properly or never contact me again. About 1-2 weeks later he texted to say he was thinking about how he had behaved. Another week later he messaged to see how I am. Another week later he asks me out on a proper date but doesn’t confirm specific details.

This weekend he was replying in a slightly different way. I asked him for reassurance. He says he’s still sorting his life out. He then confesses that he has a girlfriend who I suspect he was seeing from the beginning. This is the friend who he was ambiguous with before.

Previously they broke up because he says he has this huge emotional connection to her but he doesn’t fancy her and he can’t get aroused by her. He says this is still all an issue but clearly he can’t seem to break up with her. He says it’s complicated and changing and he can’t date me because he’s with her.

I feel like such a fool. I have been wishing and hoping for a proper relationship with him for over a year. I’m wondering if he was actually with her all this time.

He has lied and cheated a lot.

My stupid heart still has feelings for him. I don’t know why I can’t stop caring about him and move on. I only found out yesterday. I’m so heartbroken and confused by the whole thing.

Any thoughts or advice welcome. There is loads more to it but I appreciate this is already long and I can answer if you have questions. Thank you.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:17

StellaAndCrow · 18/04/2023 13:03

"It's not the strongest sexual connection"
Crikey, he's really trying to have it all ways isn't he!

(and it's rude of him to talk about her like that)

Yes, I would hate to be spoken about like that. Or the previous thing he said about not being able to get erect with her (which was obviously a lie).

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:19

Thanks @PylaSheight . You make some good points.

I don’t know if I will be able to trust again after this.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:21

Thanks @littleburn I’m sorry you experienced that too.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:22

Tabby87 · 18/04/2023 13:17

You need to fill the time. The only reason you can't get enough of this drama is the rest of your life is boring / there's a void.

Ha! I promise you it isn’t. I have a lovely life. It has only been since Sunday evening.

OP posts:
datingdilema1 · 18/04/2023 13:28

I’ve not read the whole thread but I’d just say i you ou need to read ‘he’s just not that into you’. If you give dating a go again, don’t chat for long. Meet up after 20 msgs max or have a video call. If they are vague, unavailable, not keen, move on. the Main thing is how you’re are treated and how you feel I’m the relationship not how similar they are to you. And from my experience these men never want to be friends, I’ve tried, they usually end up asking for sex anyway. Good luck, you deserve much more 🤗

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:33

datingdilema1 · 18/04/2023 13:28

I’ve not read the whole thread but I’d just say i you ou need to read ‘he’s just not that into you’. If you give dating a go again, don’t chat for long. Meet up after 20 msgs max or have a video call. If they are vague, unavailable, not keen, move on. the Main thing is how you’re are treated and how you feel I’m the relationship not how similar they are to you. And from my experience these men never want to be friends, I’ve tried, they usually end up asking for sex anyway. Good luck, you deserve much more 🤗

Yes this is good advice. I realise this now.

The last time I dated was 20 years ago and it was quite different then. I think the guys I met behaved better because they were friends, co-students, friends of friends etc. So there was more comeback if they acted badly. Plus there was less choice because internet dating wasn’t wide stream then.

OP posts:
ShandaLear · 18/04/2023 13:37

That’s a WHOLE YEAR you’ve wasted on a using twat who’s picking you up and putting you down like a cup of cold coffee. A WHOLE YEAR when you could have been meeting perfectly nice single men, some of whom might think you’re amazing, or you might find amazing. Bin this twat and move on. Life is far far too short.

Here’s the thing - if he wanted you, you’d know it. If a man is mad about you, you’d know it - there’s be no ambiguity, no games, and no duplicity. My DP is mad about me. If he thought for one minute he was making me feel sad or alone or uncertain, he’d move heaven and earth to fix it - and he has never, ever had to do that because he shows me every day that he loves me and wants to be with me. You deserve the best, not the sawdust from someone else’s boot.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 14:00

ShandaLear · 18/04/2023 13:37

That’s a WHOLE YEAR you’ve wasted on a using twat who’s picking you up and putting you down like a cup of cold coffee. A WHOLE YEAR when you could have been meeting perfectly nice single men, some of whom might think you’re amazing, or you might find amazing. Bin this twat and move on. Life is far far too short.

Here’s the thing - if he wanted you, you’d know it. If a man is mad about you, you’d know it - there’s be no ambiguity, no games, and no duplicity. My DP is mad about me. If he thought for one minute he was making me feel sad or alone or uncertain, he’d move heaven and earth to fix it - and he has never, ever had to do that because he shows me every day that he loves me and wants to be with me. You deserve the best, not the sawdust from someone else’s boot.

Thank you. I have never had a partner like yours.

OP posts:
Pseudonamed · 18/04/2023 14:02

@ShandaLear 100% everything you have said here.

@FeelingSad99 get rid and block this dush, start learning to love yourself a bit more and you will find a good like shanda and I seem to have. This bloke is a waste of space.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 14:04

The night we matched in January 2022 he sent me a photo of the dinner he was cooking as he had friends coming round. He showed me the wine as well. I asked him today if that was actually a date with her and he didn’t deny it.

OP posts:
TedMullins · 18/04/2023 14:09

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 14:04

The night we matched in January 2022 he sent me a photo of the dinner he was cooking as he had friends coming round. He showed me the wine as well. I asked him today if that was actually a date with her and he didn’t deny it.

I hadn’t either - until I did. I dated a series of wastes of space who wouldn’t have pissed on me if I was on fire but like an idiot I made excuses for them (similar to you I said they’d been hurt in the past, had abandonment issues, low self esteem etc). Then I had three years of intense therapy that really worked - I learned to shift my mindset from “why aren’t I good enough for them to commit to me” to “these people aren’t good enough for me because they’re not meeting my needs”.

ultimately it doesn’t matter what the reasons for his behaviour are. All that matters is how it makes you feel, which is bad. That isn’t what love or a healthy relationship feels like. I felt like I was doomed to be unloveable forever but after therapy and a big mindset shift I met someone who’s mad about me and has never made me doubt them. I make my needs and wants very clear and he meets them. It’s never been anything but good and secure. It is possible, it’s cliche but you really do need to like and respect yourself first. You need to be fine alone - I’m with my current partner because I choose to be, not because I need to be. I’d be fine without him.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 14:09

So he was already in a relationship with her on the date we matched. And all of his hot vs cold behaviour over the next 14 months was not because he couldn’t decide whether he really wanted to be with me. It was because he already had a girlfriend!

I had actually tortured myself over so much. He seemed to be attracted to incredibly intelligent famous women and I felt like I didn’t have the dazzling intelligence that he desired (I might add that I am academically intelligent. I have 3 degrees, can write well, normally have good EQ as well as IQ and I do an academically challenging job). I kept thinking that he didn’t think I was good enough for him (I thought I was good enough myself). But actually the reason was that he already had a girlfriend.

Tomorrow this will all be in the past.

OP posts:
TedMullins · 18/04/2023 14:12

Oops I quoted the wrong post there, meant to reply to the one where you said you’d never had a partner who made you feel good

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 14:22

TedMullins · 18/04/2023 14:12

Oops I quoted the wrong post there, meant to reply to the one where you said you’d never had a partner who made you feel good

I knew what you meant :)

I have done crazy amounts of work on myself this past year, despite him being on the scene. I have had therapy and I’m getting there to a place in which I love myself, love my body and hold other people to meet my needs, standards and boundaries. I’m not quite there yet but I’m getting there. I can see clearly what my outstanding issues are and I understand what caused them all.

I just got a bit blinded in this situation and the intermittent reinforcement, dopamine, etc, took hold.

If I had met him now, I would have walked away after he first told me about his ex who he still liked. He had a wobble before we even met about her. I did walk away but only for 3 days and he pulled me back in.

If I had been firmer from day 1 we probably would be married now!! 😂

OP posts:
Tabby87 · 18/04/2023 15:14

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 13:22

Ha! I promise you it isn’t. I have a lovely life. It has only been since Sunday evening.

It's been 18 months in another post.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 15:34

Tabby87 · 18/04/2023 15:14

It's been 18 months in another post.

We met online at the end of January 2022, 14-15 months ago.

This latest drama that has been upsetting me happened on Sunday.

OP posts:
kirinm · 18/04/2023 15:47

He sounds awful and doesn't seem to be able to maintain (or want to maintain) a relationship. I'd have absolutely nothing to do with him.

kirinm · 18/04/2023 15:48

FeelingSad99 · 17/04/2023 22:16

He said that they got together because of her persistence. He said that she has an erotic interest in him that he doesn’t reciprocate.

The situation is complicated by the fact that a very close relative of hers died a few months ago.

He also says that she has low self esteem and body hang ups (if that’s relevant).

He's lying to you!! He's made similar excuses to you too!

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:03

Well clearly he’s been lying a lot. He says it’s not the strongest sexual connection but that must mean they are having sex. He’s not denying they’re having sex now (from today).

Anyway, it doesn’t matter. He’s with her. He doesn’t want to be with me. He’s never going to properly break up with her because he’s so attached to her and she’s in love with him. He’s quite weak and I suspect he’s become emotionally dependent on her.

I presume they will marry so she can stay in the UK.

OP posts:
kirinm · 18/04/2023 16:07

You sound very much like you'd have him back if the girlfriend disappeared.

SirVixofVixHall · 18/04/2023 16:08

determinedtomakethiswork · 17/04/2023 21:55

For God's sake, why are you having anything to do with this complete idiot?

This .
WHY have you allowed this man to treat you so badly ? A second chance I can just about understand, but after that, just why ? You need to up your self esteem and maybe have some support in addressing why you stuck with him . The freedom programme might be a good idea for you.,

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:13

kirinm · 18/04/2023 16:07

You sound very much like you'd have him back if the girlfriend disappeared.

I know that I would be a complete fool to do that. I do care deeply about him. I’m hoping that will wear off soon.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:15

SirVixofVixHall · 18/04/2023 16:08

This .
WHY have you allowed this man to treat you so badly ? A second chance I can just about understand, but after that, just why ? You need to up your self esteem and maybe have some support in addressing why you stuck with him . The freedom programme might be a good idea for you.,

I had trouble with confrontation, asking for my needs to be met and holding someone to my standards. Plus I was dazzled by him. And great sex, great kisses, great time together. I was an idiot, I know.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:15

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:15

I had trouble with confrontation, asking for my needs to be met and holding someone to my standards. Plus I was dazzled by him. And great sex, great kisses, great time together. I was an idiot, I know.

I have worked on these issues over the past year.

OP posts:
FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 16:17

Plus I was very understanding, full of empathy, trying to sympathise with him and his past. I was too nice.

However, I had no idea he had someone else the whole time!

OP posts: