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Internet date had a girlfriend for the past year

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FeelingSad99 · 17/04/2023 21:36

I haven’t posted for years so starting afresh with a new username.

I am very amicably divorced (3 years now) with two pre teen children. I started internet dating in late 2020 and learned a huge amount. The last time I dated was 20 years earlier!

The first guy I really clicked with cancelled our first date on the day, then the next day there was a further Covid lockdown. We messaged for 9 months and became very close but then he disappeared and it later transpired that he was gay.

I had a break from the apps then last January matched with a seemingly great guy. He was a similar age, similar profession. We had the same taste in music, films, art, etc. It was just great. I met him a month later and the first date was lovely and we got on very well and kissed. He was my first first date in about 20 years.

However, a few days later he explained he wasn’t sure about the chemistry. Fair enough. I was disappointed but I understood and appreciated his honesty. The night before our date he had been out with a female friend until 3am and was hungover. In retrospect I realise this was a woman he was pursuing.

Fast forward 3-4 weeks and he gets back in touch wanting a second chance. He felt like he didn’t give us a proper chance. I really liked him and thought we were great together on that first date so I agreed and we met for drinks. He was super keen and we had another wonderful evening. The next day I get another text to say he’s not feeling it.

This basically went on and off for most of 2022. We would have an incredible date and the better it was, the harder he would panic and freak out. He was seemingly inexperienced, never had a long term relationship before and I also suspected he had mild ASD. I was patient and gentle with him.

Then he tells me that he and his female friend have become ambiguous in their friendship and they want to give it a go. I was upset but stepped away, asking him not to contact me again. They broke up and he said he wanted to pursue a proper relationship with me. I was massively hesitant to even meet him but he was very sweet and I agreed. On the date he announces that we can be friends after all. I freak out because he’s led me on.

We didn’t see each other for several months but he got in touch because he had my ticket to a future event. We ended up being friends and I invited him to a party.

After Christmas he wanted to meet as friends, which we did. I was willing to be friends because I had never met anyone who I had so much in common with. He was like my twin. We had the same upbringing, same part of the country a few miles apart, same cultural references. I just loved his company so much. During that meal he made a huge pass at me and we had a wonderful romantic evening. I didn’t go back to his place despite him asking.

We met a week later and he was completely different. Very cool and jumpy.

I just couldn’t cope anymore. I blocked him on Whatsapp. He realised and phoned after a few days and was full of apologies. We agreed he would leave me alone. He didn’t. I then sent him a very firm text that said date me properly or never contact me again. About 1-2 weeks later he texted to say he was thinking about how he had behaved. Another week later he messaged to see how I am. Another week later he asks me out on a proper date but doesn’t confirm specific details.

This weekend he was replying in a slightly different way. I asked him for reassurance. He says he’s still sorting his life out. He then confesses that he has a girlfriend who I suspect he was seeing from the beginning. This is the friend who he was ambiguous with before.

Previously they broke up because he says he has this huge emotional connection to her but he doesn’t fancy her and he can’t get aroused by her. He says this is still all an issue but clearly he can’t seem to break up with her. He says it’s complicated and changing and he can’t date me because he’s with her.

I feel like such a fool. I have been wishing and hoping for a proper relationship with him for over a year. I’m wondering if he was actually with her all this time.

He has lied and cheated a lot.

My stupid heart still has feelings for him. I don’t know why I can’t stop caring about him and move on. I only found out yesterday. I’m so heartbroken and confused by the whole thing.

Any thoughts or advice welcome. There is loads more to it but I appreciate this is already long and I can answer if you have questions. Thank you.

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ExplodingLava · 18/04/2023 21:13

He sounds annoying. All that talk of it’s complicated, complex, changing, deep connections that get transferred, blah blah. I don’t trust people like that, I prefer people with a more no-nonsense approach when it comes to affairs of the heart.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 21:21

ExplodingLava · 18/04/2023 21:13

He sounds annoying. All that talk of it’s complicated, complex, changing, deep connections that get transferred, blah blah. I don’t trust people like that, I prefer people with a more no-nonsense approach when it comes to affairs of the heart.

Today he was saying that his relationship with her is messy. That life is messy and he was making it sound like these things were completely normal. It’s normal for it to be a mess.

I said to him that my feelings for him hadn’t been messy. He said I live a very black and white existence.

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TedMullins · 18/04/2023 21:32

Oh please stop entertaining his nonsense! Leave him to his self-inflicted mess and enjoy a stress-free life without him. Despite what he might try and twist it into is really is that “black and white” - if two people mutually like each other and want to be together it is that easy! Ones like him who make it difficult have their own issues to resolve which aren’t your problem.

ExplodingLava · 18/04/2023 21:34

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 21:21

Today he was saying that his relationship with her is messy. That life is messy and he was making it sound like these things were completely normal. It’s normal for it to be a mess.

I said to him that my feelings for him hadn’t been messy. He said I live a very black and white existence.

He’s ridiculous, people don’t have to be black and white to not mess people around/not want to be messed around.From the start he could’ve been honest, transparent, decisive, consistent, or not persued you at all thus avoiding hurting your feelings, knowing how “messy” things already were for him. He’s made things more messy now. If “life is messy” is his go to argument when someone calls him out on his bullshit then he’s a complete idiot.

SylvanianFrenemies · 18/04/2023 21:40

You are wasting too much time analysing him.

Throw him back. He's not available or offering what you deserve.

LadyOfTheCanyon · 18/04/2023 21:43

I'm going to quote a very wise line from Spaced.

"You can't dangle the bogus carrot of possible reconciliation in front of my face whilst riding some other donkey."

Moidershewrote · 18/04/2023 22:25

He sounds incredibly tedious and draining.

Honestly OP, all this psychoanalysing and obsessing on he said X / he said Y and he thinks X and Y - it’s all very teenage and naive.

I can’t quite understand why you’ve believed any of this crap - the more you divulge, the more of an insufferable nob-end he sounds (and you seem to be hanging on his every word a bit).

Stop giving him more oxygen in your life!

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:41

Moidershewrote · 18/04/2023 22:25

He sounds incredibly tedious and draining.

Honestly OP, all this psychoanalysing and obsessing on he said X / he said Y and he thinks X and Y - it’s all very teenage and naive.

I can’t quite understand why you’ve believed any of this crap - the more you divulge, the more of an insufferable nob-end he sounds (and you seem to be hanging on his every word a bit).

Stop giving him more oxygen in your life!

I agree.

You've developed one - it's or limerence or something.... Probably because hes your type and he kept dropping you and then picking you back up.

You seem to have trouble seeing what a silly, self indulgent, annoying, naval gazing, flaky, low integrity wanker he is.

Now you know he's a pathological liar too.

He's just some dickhead.

Life is messy - well.it is the way he does it, that's for sure.
He'll certainly make it messy for anyone who stays involved with him.

You're too black and white .... Suuure.

Coming from the bloke who's been cheating on his gf with you ... And also tried to come onto her mate ... And do knows what else; well, he's a real authority on behaviour isn't he. A real example to follow.

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:42

*one-itis

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:44

I cannot believe these are ppl in their 40s.

I didn't think anyone past their 20s would be indulging in this kind of nonsense.

Unless they were very vulnerable in some way.

And what age is he? If he's over 35 and going on like this, there's no hope for him.

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:45

ExplodingLava · 18/04/2023 21:34

He’s ridiculous, people don’t have to be black and white to not mess people around/not want to be messed around.From the start he could’ve been honest, transparent, decisive, consistent, or not persued you at all thus avoiding hurting your feelings, knowing how “messy” things already were for him. He’s made things more messy now. If “life is messy” is his go to argument when someone calls him out on his bullshit then he’s a complete idiot.

Perfectly summarised.

He's full of shit.

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:49

He said I live a very black and white existence.

Is that what you call not fucking two or more people at the same time and lying to them about the status of your relationship with the other ones; black & white?

Ditto trying to pull your gf's friend?

He sounds like a fkg sociopath or psychopath.

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:53

He's not satisfied with his gf so he pulled you (and tried to pull her mate).

He's not happy with you cause he kept seeing his gf.

We don't know if he'd have been happy with his gf's mate since she apparently had the sense not to entertain him, but it's unlikely.

There sound like there have been others he's been involved with too - more evidence he's not satisfied with his gf (or you, if they overlapped you).

I think he's not satisfied with himself. He's probably quite self loathing. He needs intensive counselling. Buf maybe even that won't work if he has a personality disorder.

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:55

But anyway, he's not really worth the analysis.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 22:55

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:41

I agree.

You've developed one - it's or limerence or something.... Probably because hes your type and he kept dropping you and then picking you back up.

You seem to have trouble seeing what a silly, self indulgent, annoying, naval gazing, flaky, low integrity wanker he is.

Now you know he's a pathological liar too.

He's just some dickhead.

Life is messy - well.it is the way he does it, that's for sure.
He'll certainly make it messy for anyone who stays involved with him.

You're too black and white .... Suuure.

Coming from the bloke who's been cheating on his gf with you ... And also tried to come onto her mate ... And do knows what else; well, he's a real authority on behaviour isn't he. A real example to follow.

Everything you say here is correct.

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FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 22:56

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:44

I cannot believe these are ppl in their 40s.

I didn't think anyone past their 20s would be indulging in this kind of nonsense.

Unless they were very vulnerable in some way.

And what age is he? If he's over 35 and going on like this, there's no hope for him.

Ha! He’s 43

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FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 22:59

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:53

He's not satisfied with his gf so he pulled you (and tried to pull her mate).

He's not happy with you cause he kept seeing his gf.

We don't know if he'd have been happy with his gf's mate since she apparently had the sense not to entertain him, but it's unlikely.

There sound like there have been others he's been involved with too - more evidence he's not satisfied with his gf (or you, if they overlapped you).

I think he's not satisfied with himself. He's probably quite self loathing. He needs intensive counselling. Buf maybe even that won't work if he has a personality disorder.

There are lots of other women. Lots of female friends who he wanted to be with but who rejected him. Women who he had a first date with him but who wanted him as a friend, who he is full of regret about. At one point I counted that there were 14 or 15 women he was telling me about that he actively fancied. I kept asking him to stop and he found that a bit odd because he had good stories to tell me about these women that he wanted to share!

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FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 23:00

I have been a complete idiot. I do see this.

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FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 23:02

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 22:53

He's not satisfied with his gf so he pulled you (and tried to pull her mate).

He's not happy with you cause he kept seeing his gf.

We don't know if he'd have been happy with his gf's mate since she apparently had the sense not to entertain him, but it's unlikely.

There sound like there have been others he's been involved with too - more evidence he's not satisfied with his gf (or you, if they overlapped you).

I think he's not satisfied with himself. He's probably quite self loathing. He needs intensive counselling. Buf maybe even that won't work if he has a personality disorder.

You’re right. I think he has very low self esteem. He said that people must think ‘what on earth is she doing with him!?’ when strangers saw us together. I reassured him that was just ridiculous.

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TheShellBeach · 18/04/2023 23:10

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 22:59

There are lots of other women. Lots of female friends who he wanted to be with but who rejected him. Women who he had a first date with him but who wanted him as a friend, who he is full of regret about. At one point I counted that there were 14 or 15 women he was telling me about that he actively fancied. I kept asking him to stop and he found that a bit odd because he had good stories to tell me about these women that he wanted to share!

All these women who rejected him?
That's just nonsense.
He's telling you a pack of lies.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 23:23

TheShellBeach · 18/04/2023 23:10

All these women who rejected him?
That's just nonsense.
He's telling you a pack of lies.

The women were as follows

  • a woman he had an internet date with but who didn’t fancy him and they stayed friends.
  • one of her friends who he had a crush on
  • one of her friends who he hugged, kissed, went on holiday with and fell out with
  • one of her friends who he fancied
  • then the woman who he is with currently (X)
  • When X was away he dated a woman via Tinder who wasn’t interested in him but they have stayed friends
  • When X was away he met a woman in the street who he took on 3 dates and she said she wasn’t interested
  • His FWB before he knew me or X
  • His girlfriend before he met me
  • A woman he vaguely knows who he watched perform and they became friends but she’s not interested in him
  • the woman he lost his virginity to
  • the woman he met at a party and had a ONS with
  • an old flame whose house he went to for sex
  • me
  • there are probably more I have forgotten

Women like him because he’s posh, funny, charismatic. However he has a physical issue that most women don’t like but I have no issue with so he gets rejected a lot.

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AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 23:25

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 22:56

Ha! He’s 43

Fk me.

He sounds 19.

If he was 19, I'd be telling anyone involved with him to leave him behind. At 43 ...... Smh.

FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 23:26

He is always saying that he’s given up on love because women just aren’t interested in him. Anyone who he really likes doesn’t like him back. It’s never reciprocated. Blah blah blah. This was said to me, who he knows likes him! And during the time that he was seemingly in a relationship with his current girlfriend. That’s why I believed he was single!

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FeelingSad99 · 18/04/2023 23:26

AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 23:25

Fk me.

He sounds 19.

If he was 19, I'd be telling anyone involved with him to leave him behind. At 43 ...... Smh.

What is smh?

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AprilFool23 · 18/04/2023 23:27
  • a woman he had an internet date with but who didn’t fancy him and they stayed friends.
  • one of her friends who he had a crush on
  • one of her friends who he hugged, kissed, went on holiday with and fell out with
  • one of her friends who he fancied

And he tried it on with a friend of the woman he's currently seeing, is that right?

Well he sounds like a real comfortable, trustworthy bf to have around your mates; he'd be trying to pull any of them he remotely fancied.