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Married to someone with Asperger's/ASD: support thread 8

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Daftasabroom · 12/04/2023 11:55

New thread.

This thread is for partners seeking to understand the dynamics of mixed NT/ND partnerships. It is a support thread, and a safe space to have a bit of a rant. Avoid sweeping generalisations if possible, try and keep it specific to you and your partner. (ASD partners welcome to lurk or pop in, but please don't argue with other posters and tell them they are wrong)

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longpathtohappiness · 26/08/2023 10:43

BlueTick not a full reply as DH family here soon. Where are you?

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longpathtohappiness · 26/08/2023 20:21

BlueTick hang on in there 😫

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · 26/08/2023 20:35

@BlueTick Sorry you're having such a shit time of it. Going off to cry sounds familiar. I understand how hard it is to hold it all together sometimes. Thinking "It shouldn't be this fuc£ing hard"

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · 26/08/2023 20:42

May my mind come alive today
To the invisible geography
That invites me to new frontiers,
To break the dead shell of yesterdays,
To risk being disturbed and changed.

May I have the courage today
To live the life that I would love,
To postpone my dream no longer
But do at last what I came here for
And waste my heart on fear no more.

JOHN O'DONOHUE

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 26/08/2023 20:47

@BlueTick .. just to say I'm sorry it's so very, very hard for you. You're dealing with more than anyone should have to, by a long shot Flowers

bunhead1979 · 27/08/2023 07:48

@BlueTick i hear you. I have been broken too. Its such a hard position supporting ND kids, who you want to support so they can understand and accept themselves and grow, and also be with an nd adult who just refuses to even try to grow.

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · 27/08/2023 08:22

I feel like I'm slowly waking up in a life that I didn't even realise I had created.
I have nobody to talk to, and I have to stop myself from complaining to the kids. My mum thinks the sun shines out of dh's butt. I should be happy because dh has a job and doesn't beat me basically.
I have already decided to stay in this relationship until the kids are finished with their education, which is another 5ish years. Dh can retire soon after then too.
I cannot envision a life with only dh and me in it.
I can't change dh, he is totally entitled to be who he is, just as I'm entitled to be who I am. I can only change me. I still have a lot of life left, and so far I'm reasonably healthy, which I see as a blessing as many of you are not. I honestly don't think dh could cope if I needed care, that scares me.
I'm also lucky that dh works away so I get to breathe again.
I am trying to concentrate on becoming stronger, physically, mentally and emotionally because at the end of the day the only person you can rely on is yourself.

Ohdostopwafflinggeremy · 27/08/2023 08:25

Sorry, i didn't mean that last post to sound so depressing. Just feeling a bit reflective at the moment 🦋

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Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy · 27/08/2023 10:05

Hi everyone, I'm a new poster but have been dipping in and out of these threads for a while, usually when I'm about to have one of those quiet cries that are so familiar to you all.

Been with my dp for about 10 years, both divorced and have kids from before. His kids are both diagnosed and so is he, though I didn't know that until several years in. I love him dearly but life is incredibly lonely. He's a good man and wants me to be happy and I know it makes him sad that he seems unable to do the things required to make a relationship work. Things that seem simple to me, but impossible to him.

I've read every book I can get my hands on and try desperately to connect and communicate with him but nothing really seems to change. My attempts to improve/communicate seem to stress him out and make things worse. I have no extended family and noone I can talk to about this. I can't afford to pay for a counsellor who understands asd either. Sometimes (most of the time actually) I'm just so desperate for someone/anyone to talk to and care/understand how I am!

Is there anyone here who is successfully managing an NT/ND relationship? It seems lots of us are here because we're at the end of our tether.

This was supposed to be a short message, clearly I am in need of somewhere to vent!🤦‍♀️

Thank you and sending love and happy thoughts to everyone on here this morning xx

LoveFoolMe · 27/08/2023 11:04

Welcome @Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy and I love the username!

I'm sorry you're in the same boat as the rest of us here 🙁.

How would you define 'successfully managing' a NT/ND relationship?

Daftasabroom · 27/08/2023 12:08

DW is massively pissed off with our bank holiday weekend guests, who, after dinner last night H had a shower and W brushed her DDs hair. Thing is I started cooking at 12 and dinner was served at 7. DW didn't say much at all about dinner. But she is super indignant that nobody did what she expected of them.

Guests have gone out for the day without us, and DW is now furious. Everyone has tried really hard to consult DW, but she cannot give a straight answer. Guests get fed up and do their thing.

DW has pulled all the furniture out and is furiously vacuuming floors and skirting boards.

I'm hiding in the garage.

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Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy · 27/08/2023 12:39

@LoveFoolMe thank you for the welcome.

I actually have no idea how you define a successful nt/nd relationship. I suppose managing to communicate reasonably effectively about the important stuff (as opposed to never discussing big issues). Maintaining a reasonable level of emotional connection whilst still allowing each partner to do what they need for external support (for me, probably emotional support, and fun with friends, for him probably time alone/with special interest). Having some shared life plans/goals seems reasonable. Some level of harmony in the home at least most of the time?

We seem to lurch from one crisis to the next. My DP tends to shutdown rather than meltdown, but the icy wastelands of shutdowns are almost as hard to take as the fiery pits of meltdowns.

Am waffling now. In short, I'd settle for a bit of peace? The occasional hug and kind word? Not feeling like a housekeeper/housemate would be a start.

Xx

ReleaseTheDucksOfWar · 27/08/2023 12:54

I do know one, a friend who's been married some years now. it's not easy but it is successful.

The key seems to be that each has self-insight and understands that they are different to the other, and they are willing to make considerable efforts to understand how the differences impact on the other. Both of them make this effort. For instance, he struggles with losing a game, and you can hear him say to himself 'it's a game, it's alright to lose'. She is patient with the fact that she has to say exactly, to the smallest detail, what it is she wants from him, and he can be patient with her grumpiness. She appreciates his clear thinking, and he appreciates ... just her, really. And they give each other enough that they can keep going .. with the effort.

There is love between them and appreciation, and they complement each other, and both of them pull their weight with the chores .... which really does help actually!

Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy · 27/08/2023 15:30

@ReleaseTheDucksOfWar thank you. It does sound like your friend manages things pretty well and her DH works hard at their relationship too.

I have read so many books. I have learned to release just about every expectation of what he might do to show that he cares, how he might express himself etc. I work hard to translate his harsh comments into what he actually meant underneath before I respond. I've written lists of the stuff I need help with around the house. I don't get wound up when he spends hours on his special interest and doesn't remember to ask me about something important.

I am by no means perfect. I have worked very hard to understand that he processes information differently than me, and to control my own emotional reactions. It's taken several, very difficult years to get to this point though and there's been a lot of damage done in the process through all the misunderstandings, arguments and distance.

I suppose the issue is that he doesn't seem to understand that a relationship needs work and effort from both sides,especially to repair one that is so damaged. He constantly points out the things that are wrong in our relationship, and says that we haven't been happy for years (since we were dating basically). He seems to expect 'happiness' to just happen magically and I can't get through to him that we need to communicate and work at it. If I try to talk to him about anything vaguely emotionally challenging he can cope with barely a few minutes before he shuts down.

I love him and believe he loves me but he lacks the emotional tools to help me repair our badly damaged relationship and instead focuses on what's broken about it. It's very demoralising.

Sorry for the extended moan everyone. I really appreciate the safe space to vent, it's quite cathartic just to get it out x

Iceball · 27/08/2023 16:09

I'm again reading so many comments that resonate with me.
I don't have anymore mental or physical energy to give to my H.
So many things have happened since I last posted and it's crystal clear that we want completely different things. I have tried and tried to see things from his perspective and give him the benefit of the doubt several times. It improves for two days then gets worse than before.
I'm done, but I don't know how to proceed and I'm afraid of how he will react - he's already inappropriately shared information with the children and that's not ok.
I'm so tired.

Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy · 27/08/2023 16:59

@Iceball I don't know anything about your specific situation except that you're on this thread, but I am so sorry you are going through this.

You sound exhausted and I totally understand that feeling. Do you mind if I ask how old your DC are? My exh was emotionally abusive and there wasn't much he held back on during the divorce, but my DCs and me did come out the other side. There's always light and hope. First thing I would do is take independent advice, most solicitors will do a half hour free consultation xx

Iceball · 27/08/2023 17:34

@Hairymaclaryfromdonaldsonsdairy thank you.
I have three children at home. All teenagers, two of which are ND.
My H over shares with my NT child. I'm concerned because they will be going into yr11, which is such an important year.

I will have a look into ways I can move forward. I've started to think about what is in my control and I occasionally get a twinge of positivity. I just have to cling on.

SquirrelSoShiny · 27/08/2023 17:39

If any of you are wavering and still have your health: go now. Don't wait. I promise you that if something happens that affects your health, you will deeply and profoundly regret it.

I waited and hoped. What did it gain? Disabled and living in a house with a dutiful stranger. If I had a time machine I would change everything.

He just wants me to be happy too. He just doesn't know what's wrong in our marriage.

It's like living with a well-meaning alien.