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Help me get through the next few weeks - no contact

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Tanaria · 07/04/2023 08:00

There is a man at work I have had a huge crush on for almost a year now. He is in a long, committed relationship and has never given me any indication that he reciprocates my affection and I did not tell him how I felt, but we got on very well (also outside of work) and worked very closely together.

I now have a new job in a different location. I lost my cool a few days ago and sent him a very old school letter telling him how I felt and that I needed to stop contact. He was incredibly kind about it (and me) and ended his response by wishing me good luck for the future.

I don't regret sending him the letter; it was the right thing to do.

But I need help in getting through the next few weeks. It feels like drug withdrawal right now; every fibre in my body just wants another hit. I do what I can to distract myself, but it's difficult because I'm on leave until my new job starts in a week, so every waking moment and quite a few dreams are taken up by what I can only call obsessive thoughts about him.

I know it will get easier over time and once my new job starts I will hopefully be way too busy to think too much. In the meantime, though, please help me get through this phase.

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Tanaria · 07/04/2023 09:30

Anyone, please?

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MellowMelly · 07/04/2023 10:01

I read on Mumsnet once that as soon as you start thinking about something obsessively, you just step off that bus.
So imagine that bus is all your thoughts about him, just get off the bus. I do this and imagine I have stepped off near a beach and I mentally take myself for a walk along the beach. It works when practiced consistently. Stepping off the bus breaks that cycle of thought. It interrupts it.

From what I understand, every time you think about him, you are strengthening those neural pathways as you get a dopamine hit. This becomes a pattern. Think about him, dopamine hit. This is the cycle you need to break. Might be worth reading up about it because my explanation isn’t great and it’s rather interesting and there are many ways to help yourself.

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 10:32

Thank you, I like that idea.

Can it really be a dompamine hit when it hurts to think about him? I think mine came more from communication - we talked every day at work, we messaged every few days, went out once or twice, just the two of us - that's where I got my hits from.

I try to redirect the energy. I exercise, go out, keep busy with the kids as much as possible. They say you should never wish your life away, but I do wish this phase would hurry up a little.

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Zanatdy · 07/04/2023 10:41

I feel for you as I’m feeling the same but a guy I was seeing and it’s pretty much over so I need to stop him living rent free in my brain but I can’t. It doesn’t help it’s a long weekend, normally works keeps me sane. Can’t do anything due to sick dog, my plans are cancelled. Today I’m stopping myself looking to see when he’s online on what’sapp. It’s become an obsession and is ridiculous. It started as he hadn’t opened my last message, but he has now and replied to one so no need at all to check. So I’m not. Must hold strong. Angry with myself as I’m never this pathetic woman obsessed with a man. Especially one who doesn’t warrant this obsession. I just have to keep thinking how it’s his loss. Feel free to message me if you need to, I do sympathise hugely.

Dontbelieveaword · 07/04/2023 10:53

What if he had replied to your letter in a different way, saying he was interested in and was going to miss you too? Would you have wanted to pursue some kind of affair? Wanted him to leave his long-term, committed relationship for you? Would you want a future with someone who could so easily walk away or cheat?
Please don't contact him again, it's not fair on either of you. You've told him how you feel, he hasn't reciprocated those feelings, has wished you well and basically said 'bye'.
You will soon be so busy in your new job and hopefully you won't have time or energy to think about what might have been.
In the meantime, use the long weekend to prepare for your new role and to see family and friends, have some fun

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 11:03

What if he had replied to your letter in a different way, saying he was interested in and was going to miss you too? Would you have wanted to pursue some kind of affair? Wanted him to leave his long-term, committed relationship for you? Would you want a future with someone who could so easily walk away or cheat?

No, none of that would have happened. We're very different people with very different lives; I was always fully aware that even if circumstances had been different and he had been available it would not have worked out in the long term. He is a very decent man; I knew he'd never leave his partner for me in any case.

The letter acknowledged that he probably knew how I felt, that I admitted to it and knew there was no way we could stay friends. That's all there was to it.

I know I can't contact him again, the whole point of this thread is to keep it that way. Blocking and deleting numbers won't help here; we're personally and professionally connected on a number of platforms (and I cannot, for reasons, delete the professional side of things), have each other's addresses etc.

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kaymc3 · 07/04/2023 11:08

@Zanatdy this is me right now too!! It actually feels insane. Constantly checking his last online status too but why?! Feel I'm going mad. I have also never been this kind of person before!

Dontbelieveaword · 07/04/2023 11:15

I still don't understand why you had to write the letter. You were moving jobs, you could have just started to distance yourself (personally, if not possible professionally). You're fooling yourself (and us) if at least a part of you didn't hope for a different outcome. The letter doesn't make sense. All you've done is embarrass yourself and put him in a very awkward situation and he probably dreads having to deal with you in a professional manner now too.

Raver84 · 07/04/2023 11:34

Sorry if this sounds a little harsh but giving you a little reality check here. You've not had a relationship with him and sending unwarranted letters whilst for you may be the right thing it was probably a bit of a shock to him.

He's is a relationship and you know him from work. Work on your boundaries a bit, you shouldn't feel this strongly about a co worker, it's a crush and that's difficult but try focusing on men who are available and would want to be with you.

I think in a little time you will see this was a mistake, please don't contact him again. Let him. Get on with his relationship and focus on things around you that make you happy. You have a new job to look forward to. Meet with friends and distract yourself but do not contact him again.

NaturalBae · 07/04/2023 11:34

Dontbelieveaword · 07/04/2023 11:15

I still don't understand why you had to write the letter. You were moving jobs, you could have just started to distance yourself (personally, if not possible professionally). You're fooling yourself (and us) if at least a part of you didn't hope for a different outcome. The letter doesn't make sense. All you've done is embarrass yourself and put him in a very awkward situation and he probably dreads having to deal with you in a professional manner now too.

^This

You did not need to send him the letter. You knew that you would not be seeing him on a regular basis anymore at work, so you were hoping that he’d continue to see you outside of work. You are thinking about breaking up his long term, committed relationship so you can continue to get your fix and swan off into the sunset with him.

It was a selfish move on your part and he now feels awkward. He also definitely now knows that you would be up for something much more with him and you are hoping he takes you up on your offer (because that’s what your letter was - an offer that you would be receptive to him making a move on you as told him that you have feelings for him). You should have just moved onto your new job without sending him the letter. I think you knew exactly what you were doing.

Put yourself in the place of his long term and committed partner. How would you feel if you became aware of all of this? How would you feel about someone like you sending a letter like that to your long term, committed partner?

Zanatdy · 07/04/2023 11:53

kaymc3 · 07/04/2023 11:08

@Zanatdy this is me right now too!! It actually feels insane. Constantly checking his last online status too but why?! Feel I'm going mad. I have also never been this kind of person before!

It’s blooming horrible. I’m furious with myself at 46yrs old acting like this. I don’t know why he’s got under my skin so much. I wish it would stop

MellowMelly · 07/04/2023 12:01

@Tanaria it may not be a dopamine hit now, but at one point it was. You obsessing about him, whether good or bad has become the addiction and therefore you need to break it. So step off the bus and do it every time you think about him.

Aquamarine1029 · 07/04/2023 12:13

Sending him that pointless letter was shockingly inappropriate and very disrespectful.

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 12:24

I know people on MN like to jump the gun where men in relationships are concerned. But I did not send him the letter for anything other than closure. We were friends outside of work; in fact, he was the one who suggested meeting up again for evening drinks at a specific date soon. So please don't put thoughts where there were none; if he had ever shown anything more than friendliness I couldn't have respected him to start with. I didn't want to ghost him; he didn't deserve that, so I specifically told him why I was cutting contact.

I won't entertain accusations like that on here.

This is about healing, moving on and dealing with the very real pain I am in.

@MellowMelly I will try that imagery. I have showered my thoughts away this morning, too, it helped for a little while.

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Zanatdy · 07/04/2023 12:27

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 12:24

I know people on MN like to jump the gun where men in relationships are concerned. But I did not send him the letter for anything other than closure. We were friends outside of work; in fact, he was the one who suggested meeting up again for evening drinks at a specific date soon. So please don't put thoughts where there were none; if he had ever shown anything more than friendliness I couldn't have respected him to start with. I didn't want to ghost him; he didn't deserve that, so I specifically told him why I was cutting contact.

I won't entertain accusations like that on here.

This is about healing, moving on and dealing with the very real pain I am in.

@MellowMelly I will try that imagery. I have showered my thoughts away this morning, too, it helped for a little while.

I think sending the letter was fine. I hate being ghosted and would prefer people to be upfront. I’m sure he appreciates knowing the truth

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 12:34

@Zanatdy Thank you, that is the vibe I got from him when he responded. I am the same, I prefer brutal honesty to faked smiles and then suddenly being dropped. But that is the ND side of me.

I am no spring chicken here, either, I am almost 40 and feel like a sodding teenager after her first crush again. But I'm past looking up online statuses - you can disable that on WhatsApp so you don't have the temptation to look.

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Zanatdy · 07/04/2023 12:41

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 12:34

@Zanatdy Thank you, that is the vibe I got from him when he responded. I am the same, I prefer brutal honesty to faked smiles and then suddenly being dropped. But that is the ND side of me.

I am no spring chicken here, either, I am almost 40 and feel like a sodding teenager after her first crush again. But I'm past looking up online statuses - you can disable that on WhatsApp so you don't have the temptation to look.

Yup same. I’m 46. I’m not looking at anymore online status. I accidentally saw one before as my Whatapp was on his last message from yesterday (copping out of ringing me, saying he will next week, with his feeble excuses). But no more. I don’t care when he’s online, it is just messing with my head more. Going to try and make some plans for next couple of days and stop this horrible obsessing. So unhealthy

NaturalBae · 07/04/2023 12:47

‘I did not send him the letter for anything other than closure.’

Okay. So do not contact him again. Ever.
Get off that bus.

‘I lost my cool a few days ago and sent him a very old school letter telling him how I felt and that I needed to stop contact. He was incredibly kind about it (and me) and ended his response by wishing me good luck for the future.’

Did he make a pass at you, was he inappropriate or something similar?

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 13:11

Did he make a pass at you, was he inappropriate or something similar?

No, of course not. As I said, he has only ever been decent.

I think it was the change of workplace that did it. I had been there for a very long time and we said our goodbyes on the last day. I drove home in tears for many reasons; it's the kind of workplace you put your soul into but it became toxic under new management, so a few of us who had been there many years quit together.
A lot of work friendships had formed over the years, but most were the type that would only ever last as long as we were there together, if that makes sense? But with him and one other man I became friends with it was different and we'd message often and meet up on a one to one basis occasionally. The man that I developed a crush on and I even had plans to take up a shared hobby together. But the feelings were only ever one-sided; he gave me no reason at all to think it was anything other than friendship.

I knew that my feelings were wrong and, in many ways, unhealthy (I have a habit of falling for the wrong type of person) and I no longer wanted to lie about my reasons for spending time with him, but I knew that the second I did that our friendship would be over, so I took control of the situation as best as I could - I sent the letter, let it all out, said that the letter meant goodbye.

And he responded in the kindest way he could have, but it was a goodbye, too.

Part of me wishes he'd reacted badly; it would have made this easier, because I could hold on to that and be angry. But he was, as always, a perfect gentleman.

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NaturalBae · 07/04/2023 14:05

Thanks for providing more context; it always helps.

We’re only human, so I understand how you developed feelings for him.

It’s insightful that you’re aware that you have a habit of falling for the wrong type of person. Can you expand on that?
Do you mean people who are already in other committed relationships and who are not available to you?
And/or the player/non committal types? Abusive types?
It would good to try therapy and work on yourself to identify your tendency to fall for the wrong types. You’ll then hopefully meet the right person for you one day.

I still don’t think I would’ve written and sent him a letter though.
I would have maybe penned a letter for cathartic reasons/closure and to figure out my thoughts (like writing a diary/journal), but I would not have sent it to him.

What would him reacting badly look like to you?
Have an honest think about why you think that would have been the best outcome for you?

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 15:07

Thank you for taking time to respond, it really is appreciated.

Do you mean people who are already in other committed relationships and who are not available to you? And/or the player/non committal types? Abusive types?

Unavailable (though usually single, but gay or married to their work), commitment phobes, abusive types - I've had more than my fair share of all of those.

It would good to try therapy and work on yourself to identify your tendency to fall for the wrong types. You’ll then hopefully meet the right person for you one day.

I have had more therapy in my life than I care to admit, CBT, too. I am fully aware of the reasons behind why I pick the wrong people, can't seem to get out of the habit, though, no matter how much I think I have learned to respect myself more. Although this time was probably the healthiest I've ever handled it, so I guess there is progress in that?

I still don’t think I would’ve written and sent him a letter though.
I would have maybe penned a letter for cathartic reasons/closure and to figure out my thoughts (like writing a diary/journal), but I would not have sent it to him.

I have kept a diary, I have written many a letter to him on my computer and saved them, I have penned a few and burned them. Sending the letter forced an end that was needed, but also an explanation that he deserved. Like I said, ghosting him would have felt far worse; this felt like an (unspoken on his side) mutual agreement that it was best to end it all here.

What would him reacting badly look like to you? Have an honest think about why you think that would have been the best outcome for you?

It wouldn't have been the best outcome; I think the way he handled it was perfect. He reassured me that my confession did not result in my losing face or lowering the high esteem he held me in, that he admired my honesty, and he said he wished me the best for my future, which, he knew, I would succeed in. I cannot replicate the kindness he showed without quoting him (and I don't want to do that). I just thought, wow. Again, he raised me up, gently, like the wonderfully kind person he is.

If he had told me that he now wants nothing to do with me, blocked me without a word, told me who do I think I am to send that to him or whatever else could have happened it would have made things easier, I think, because he would have shown a negative side I could have clung on to to get angry at and push him away in my head. But it wouldn't have been the best outcome for us; I would have been ashamed and just hated myself even more.

There is a good chance we will see each other again sometime; our work is a small world and people do tend to randomly bump into each other at conferences and training sessions, let alone frequent movement between work places which means you may well end up working with old colleagues again. We also live within a short driving distance of each other and are both out and about quite a bit. It's no guarantee but it's not a bridge I want to burn completely, just in case.

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NaturalBae · 07/04/2023 17:01

Well, it looks like you’ve handled ending the relationship well so far, without actually ghosting him, which would have been cruel esp. as he did not do anything wrong.

Maybe you should just have just told him via phone call or sent a text instead of sending him an old school old letter. Who knows? I guess it would depend on what you actually wrote and how lengthy or not the letter was and/or how deep you went re. your feelings towards him.

Remember, stay off that bus.

Tanaria · 07/04/2023 17:54

Staying off the bus. The urge to contact him is actually a lot lower today compared to yesterday when I got his reply. It was dreadful this morning, but it's normally the evenings that are worst and right now (that may change) it's not all that bad.

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Tanaria · 07/04/2023 19:37

Hah, spoke too early. I really want a strong drink but not sure that is a brilliant idea. I screenshot our last conversation, that way at least I don't have to go onto the app to see it and be tempted.

Chilling with the teenager after getting the little one into bed; I have introduced them to retro series (Firefly and Buffy being current favourites) but my god it's dragging now and I can't wait for the rest from my head that sleep might bring if I don't dream again.

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Redcliffe1 · 07/04/2023 19:56

I've been there and it's terrible. The only thing that got me through was thinking "I can't feel like this forever " and I didn't. It will pass I promise