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Would this bother you? I feel like it shouldn't but for some reason it is

272 replies

Blushingm · 30/03/2023 17:28

Been with bf a year.

We were both drunk last night......he told me that when he split from his wife he joined Grindr and hooked up with men on 3 occasions.

He was married 23 years - met her at 18

I'm not sure if I'm feeling weird as he hooked up as that's not his usual thing or that i feel weird because they were men?

He'd slept with 2 women before his wife and then me (he dated someone before me but didn't sleep with her)

I think I'm being unreasonable feeling odd about it.....could also be that I'm worried he likes men more than women so I can't compete

OP posts:
supravit · 30/03/2023 23:27

Nightlystroll · 30/03/2023 23:20

You're assuming it's not. And you're probably right. But I think the onus is on the person to reveal the truth, rather than on the ignorant partner having to stab around in the dark asking questions to get to the truth.
Most people, if it's been portrayed to them that their partner is only interested in the opposite sex, or indeed the same sex, will assume that that has always been their sexual practice. By not being forthcoming with the truth, the partner is, in effect, being denied the opportunity of making up their own mind about how they feel about it. And, indeed, denied the opportunity of saying they don't have a problem with it.

What do you mean portrayed? Do you think bisexuals should go around openly flirting with both sexes all the time and waving bi pride flags?

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:29

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:25

That’s up to you, however if you are in a heterosexual or homosexual relationship it would be pretty much assumed that the person you are going out had the same sexuality as you. If they say they are bisexual, no probs, you decide if you want to continue. If they tell you when drunk as soon as I got out of my heterosexual marriage I immediately went on grindr looking for men and I hooked up with a few that isn’t remotely the same as saying when I was single I (as a woman in a heterosexual relationship) shagged a few men I didn’t see again. The difference is as soon as he left his wife he explored men. That points to either a repressed sexuality or indeed that he was also seeking out men when married. He isn’t a straight man if he sought out male sexual encounters. He presented to the OP as a straight man. Whether he can process his sexuality or not isn’t her responsibility

That’s up to you, however if you are in a heterosexual or homosexual relationship it would be pretty much assumed that the person you are going out had the same sexuality as you.

You might assume that, I wouldn't.

He presented to the OP as a straight man.

Presented how?

Nightlystroll · 30/03/2023 23:34

TedMullins · 30/03/2023 23:08

Saying you find it repulsive/gives you the ick/is less manly/means he might have a disease/secretly be gay etc is definitely biphobia!

But not wanting to be with someone because they're bi doesn't mean you're phobic. It just means that's not how your tastes run. If someone was openly gay and then they decided they wanted to go out with a heterosexual, is that heterosexual person phobic if they're not interested in them?

TomatoSandwiches · 30/03/2023 23:34

My previous experience being in a relationship with a gay man who did use me as a beard led me to never assuming anyones sexuality.
Calling heterosexual people " normies " is not a helpful mind set, all orientations are normal there is obviously a spectrum.
If someone's sexual history and orientation is important to you and your preferences you should take that as your responsibility to ask or let these requirements be known when dating.

In situations such as the ops it is unfortunate but there is a learning curve with each new relationship, take it as an opportunity to look at what you want in a partner and what qualities, attitudes and past experiences you are and are not willing to deal with.

Nightlystroll · 30/03/2023 23:35

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:09

Sorry @Nightlystroll somehow I responded to you when I meant to respond to @TedMullins

👍

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:36

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:27

What do you mean portrayed? Do you think bisexuals should go around openly flirting with both sexes all the time and waving bi pride flags?

Come off it. This infantile extreme position taking is bloody wearing for those of us who live in the real world. If you are a man in his 50s you should be able to say you know I have had sex with men as well as women and as soon as I ended my marriage I sought out men for sex, I am attracted to men and women. He didn’t. He went out with the OP for a year letting her believe he was heterosexual whilst knowing himself he wasn’t and only spilling the truth when pissed. If you are bi, you’re bi. I imagine that after a long marriage he missed a ‘wife’ which he wasn’t getting whilst hooking up with men. No one needs to wave a flag, they just need to be honest. Women will never stop falling over themselves to excuse men’s shortcomings when it comes to sex.

AltitudeCheck · 30/03/2023 23:36

If you are wondering why he didn't tell you earlier on or why he may not feel fully comfortable being open about his hook ups you only have to look at some of the responses on this thread!

TomatoSandwiches · 30/03/2023 23:39

AltitudeCheck · 30/03/2023 23:36

If you are wondering why he didn't tell you earlier on or why he may not feel fully comfortable being open about his hook ups you only have to look at some of the responses on this thread!

Equally there are many people and some on this thread where disclosing that information would mean nothing.

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:39

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:36

Come off it. This infantile extreme position taking is bloody wearing for those of us who live in the real world. If you are a man in his 50s you should be able to say you know I have had sex with men as well as women and as soon as I ended my marriage I sought out men for sex, I am attracted to men and women. He didn’t. He went out with the OP for a year letting her believe he was heterosexual whilst knowing himself he wasn’t and only spilling the truth when pissed. If you are bi, you’re bi. I imagine that after a long marriage he missed a ‘wife’ which he wasn’t getting whilst hooking up with men. No one needs to wave a flag, they just need to be honest. Women will never stop falling over themselves to excuse men’s shortcomings when it comes to sex.

Unless he explicitly stated he's heterosexual then I can't see that he has done anything wrong.

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:40

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:29

That’s up to you, however if you are in a heterosexual or homosexual relationship it would be pretty much assumed that the person you are going out had the same sexuality as you.

You might assume that, I wouldn't.

He presented to the OP as a straight man.

Presented how?

Sorry what? He presented himself as a heterosexual man as he is in a heterosexual relationship. If he is bi he should have told her before now. It’s not rocket science. Most people are straight. So if you are in a relationship between a woman and a man it’s pretty safe to assume it’s a straight relationship 🙄🙄🙄

NadjaCravensworth1 · 30/03/2023 23:40

Wouldn't bother me at all, in all honestly I would find it quite exciting. But you do you.

JudgeRudy · 30/03/2023 23:41

Oh gosh. This is one of those things where I feel I should be OK with it but I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure I could 'be OK with' someone being bi. My fear would be that he's never had a relationship with a man so might want to later (just as he'd never had sex with a man but then wanted to). Maybe he needs to explore that before getting a regular partner. I'd also make it quite clear that cheating is cheating.
I've never quite got my head around this but there are groups of men who identify as 'men who have sex with men'. Now I would say, oh you mean gay, or possibly bi....but no, these men claim to be anything but gay, they just like sex with like minded men!?!?
I think what they mean is the enjoy casual sex, which is fine if its instead of a relationship. Problem is I suspect many want both, tinder hooks up for some hard dirty casual funking in a travel lodge or public toilet...girlfriend for homelike...that would be my fear. Eyes wide open!

Sunnygirl07 · 30/03/2023 23:44

QuacketyQuack · 30/03/2023 17:47

Definitely would bother me.

Me too.

Sunnygirl07 · 30/03/2023 23:46

I would choose 100% not gay.

He is bi then.

Eyerollcentral · 30/03/2023 23:47

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:39

Unless he explicitly stated he's heterosexual then I can't see that he has done anything wrong.

Ok. The vast majority of people are straight. It is completely reasonable as a woman going out with a man to consider him heterosexual unless he tells you otherwise. The onus is on the man to say actually I’m not heterosexual.

Nightlystroll · 30/03/2023 23:47

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 30/03/2023 23:21

Bi phobia. 😵‍💫 That’s a new one to me.

It seems that every instinctive or personal preference which involves not liking or wanting to participate in some activity or belief is now a phobia , and should be criticised, shamed or even prosecuted , to the greater glory of the ‘cool’.

‘I don’t much fancy a bloke who has casual sex with other blokes ‘. ‘Oooo bi phobic, it’s the stocks and the ducking stool for you, you horrible normie.’

🌰 🤦🏻‍♀️🌰

I was just going to say this but you used the exact word I was going to - cool. It's like we can't even have the right to say who can enter our own bodies because we might offend them. Instead we have to be cool with everyone else doing their thing at the cost of the personal autonomy of our own body just so we don't get accused of being phobic.
I don't know if I'd have a problem being in a relationship with a bisexual but I'd expect honesty about it so I could make up my own mind instead of just being expected to conform to thinking a certain way.

Loveabitofrain · 30/03/2023 23:47

Theres nothing wrong in exploring your sexuality! And no it’s not something you tell someone early on!

He explored, he’s moved on. That doesn’t make him bi.

Once you just get your head around it you’ll likely be fine with it.

I have been in a similar situation with a partner. I asked questions then began to understand.

Teenagehorrorbag · 30/03/2023 23:52

Not a problem per se but he needs to decide whether he wants a monogamous relationship and you are it (at least for now) or if he does have gay urges that he might still want to fulfil? Anyone in a relationship - straight or gay - can find other people attractive, but hopefully would never act on on it. That's life. But if he's still unsure about things then I think you could get very hurt.

I imagine there's no greater risk of a bi person cheating on their partner than a heterosexual person - if you are in love and want an exclusive relationship then fidelity should be a given. But if he has unexplored interests and is trying to be something he isn't, then you probably have a big red flag.

Will he talk about it all once sober? That is your best best, see if you can discuss, see the wood from the trees, and then take things from there. Good luck!

Nightlystroll · 30/03/2023 23:53

supravit · 30/03/2023 23:27

What do you mean portrayed? Do you think bisexuals should go around openly flirting with both sexes all the time and waving bi pride flags?

If someone has only ever talked about going out with women, I'd expect them to be heterosexual. Thars what I mean as portraying. That they're leading me to believe, by their words,and actions, that they are heterosexual when they're not.
With my friends, it's up to them what they reveal to me and I couldn't care less what their orientation is. But if I'm forming a longterm relationship with someone, I expect them to be upfront about their sexuality. It might make no difference how I feel making a future with them, but I believe I have a right to know about their sexual orientation.

MadHattter · 31/03/2023 00:00

YANBU it would bother me too.

JudgeRudy · 31/03/2023 00:12

Have you asked him if he'd like to do it again? Have you asked him why he chose sex over dating/relationship?
Does he watch porn? What sort?

LaffTaff · 31/03/2023 00:35

I'd be insecure with the knowledge (because it's not uncommon for gay men to identify as bi when in actuality they're gay). It sounds as though you have the same insecurity OP.
For me, it would have to be relationship over - for their good as well as my own; it's not fair to subject a partner to our insecurities.

LooseGoose22 · 31/03/2023 01:39

NadjaCravensworth1 · 30/03/2023 23:40

Wouldn't bother me at all, in all honestly I would find it quite exciting. But you do you.

I don't find the STDs men give each other hooking up off Grindr (and dogging and cottaging and in gay saunas etc etc) exciting.

LooseGoose22 · 31/03/2023 01:41

He explored, he’s moved on. That doesn’t make him bi

If you 'explore" with the same sex, you are bi.

I don't know any heterosexual men who have "explored" with other men. Even did using it tends to make them green around the gills.

LooseGoose22 · 31/03/2023 01:42

*Even discussing it tends to make them green around the gills.

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