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Did I over react and ruin the relationship?

215 replies

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 15:49

We’ve been together for 3 years and he has bailed on me a couple of times due to his own insecurities and issues. It was a struggle for me to trust again, but the last 6 months or so have been amazing and it seemed like we were really understanding each other a lot better. I don’t express it, but I am concerned he will leave again. Because it’s been so close and loving I finally fully relaxed inside. The other night I expressed to him how happy I am and secure I feel with him and he said he’s so glad and just wants to show me so much love, and I said he does and I couldn’t ask for more from how things are going. So we live apart at the moment and the conversation ended with me saying “I love you” and he said “I’m glad”. So I said “I’m glad you love me also”, to which he said “I don’t respond for responses sake”

so I said, ok, well let’s sleep honey, rest well. So then he said, “don’t give to get”. I said, well I never do…I express what I feel, so goodnight. So then he said “you love me and I took it. Go to sleep my eyes are gone now”

I literally couldn’t reply, I felt blindsided. This guy said he wants to marry me, and everything’s been amazing between us. I make tons of effort to show my love various ways and am always there for him, so I’m definitely not a taker.

so I went to sleep. The next morning I’d usually text first but left it. I messaged around midday, and said last night felt funny is everything ok?

so he sent me a message at the same time saying “now you’ve decided to not be in contact with me, obviously you’re upset with what I said. The reason I said what I said is I here it all the time, women on there phones saying I love you, and the reason they do it is so they’re told they’re loved back” and it turns my stomach, so I decided to just say I’m glad for once, and see what your response was, but you’ve taken it how you’ll take it”

I said, “It feels a bit like you’re game playing. When I say I love you it means something to me. I didn’t ask you to respond, saying your glad is a response, but why take it further talking about responding fir responses sake”

I was pissed off in my message as I hate game playing and he’s played games before. So I had an angry tone as it was voice message.

so then he responded saying everything’s so good between us, but it’s this, how “one questionable thing he says” and I’m upset. I said actually you say many things and I’m very relaxed ways many wouldn’t be…but this, it felt a bit of a head mess.

it descended into an argument because he then said “it needed to be said”

I started to feel majorly uneasy and insecure and wondering why “it needed to be said” he told me he can’t be with me now because I got angry with him.

so then I said a few nasty things and we haven’t spoken.

I just don’t know how it all happened like that so quickly and wondering if I was totally unreasonable.

OP posts:
GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:21

@KettrickenSmiled I'm not talking about OP's update. I'm talking about the fact I'd already apologised for my misinterpretation of the conversation.

BreviloquentBastard · 23/01/2023 16:22

Relationships are not supposed to be this hard work. Ditch him off to go play games by himself.

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 16:23

Maybe he read it that way too

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GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:26

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 16:23

Maybe he read it that way too

It's worth a conversation if it was said via text, not over the phone

PousseyNotMoira · 23/01/2023 16:28

This man is a lunatic. Why are you putting up with this nonsense? Seriously, stop being grateful for what you’re terming ‘being so close and loving’ (I bet if you gave us any detail on this, we’d disagree) and date someone who isn’t a massive fuckhead.

emptythelitterbox · 23/01/2023 16:29

Does he say I love you to you?

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 16:32

yes he does, and we are very expressive with each other

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larchforest · 23/01/2023 16:35

My exH used to do this sort of stuff - we'd argue and I'd end up in tears over something he said or did that had really upset me, and he used to accuse me of bursting into tears deliberately, in order to make him feel bad. He'd say something like "Oh here we go, turning on the waterworks again" and he assumed that I was crying on purpose, to manipulate him.

KettrickenSmiled · 23/01/2023 16:36

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 16:32

yes he does, and we are very expressive with each other

He's expressive with you in all the wrong ways.

Why are you hanging on, miserably waiting for the next time he chooses to dump you to keep you keen?

KettrickenSmiled · 23/01/2023 16:37

larchforest · 23/01/2023 16:35

My exH used to do this sort of stuff - we'd argue and I'd end up in tears over something he said or did that had really upset me, and he used to accuse me of bursting into tears deliberately, in order to make him feel bad. He'd say something like "Oh here we go, turning on the waterworks again" and he assumed that I was crying on purpose, to manipulate him.

I very much doubt he assumed anything of the sort Larch.
He knew what he was doing - deflecting blame -

www.banyantherapy.com/darvo/

Watchkeys · 23/01/2023 16:39

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:18

Read the updated conversation before you start with your shitty attitude @KettrickenSmiled

@KettrickenSmiled 's post was entirely geared to offering support to OP, and not 'shitty' in attitude at all. Quite why anybody would find the need to be so unpleasant on a forum where nobody knows each other is unfathomable. I suppose it must be a personal thing.

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:40

@Watchkeys that's not true considering she tagged me and tried to tell me all the reasons I was wrong - despite me having already apologised to the OP for a misinterpretation

Deerlander · 23/01/2023 16:41

Has he got a job ?

Who has time for this rubbish.

OriGanOver · 23/01/2023 16:41

So what if your response was to get a I love you too. That's completely normal behaviour. It's normal to say love you, love you too. It would be normal to 'expect' that as a response as it is the norm.

He's got issues. Fuck him off.

ICanHideButICantRun · 23/01/2023 16:43

He sounds absolutely awful. Game-playing, manipulative, cruel. I really hope you dump him.

FourTeaFallOut · 23/01/2023 16:43

How much time do you spend tip toeing around in this relationship with this temperamental guy who regularly pulls the plug on you and plays these juvenile mind games? It sounds miserable.

Watchkeys · 23/01/2023 16:43

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:40

@Watchkeys that's not true considering she tagged me and tried to tell me all the reasons I was wrong - despite me having already apologised to the OP for a misinterpretation

OK so you took it personally. That makes sense now.

KettrickenSmiled · 23/01/2023 16:44

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:40

@Watchkeys that's not true considering she tagged me and tried to tell me all the reasons I was wrong - despite me having already apologised to the OP for a misinterpretation

This thread, just like the reasons I cited, is for OP's benefit, not yours.
If you wish to interpret those reasons as a pop at you rather than an attempt to help OP see all the ways in which her b/f is abusing her, that says more about you than it does about me.

Thanks for your earlier message of solidarity @Watchkeys
I won't respond to GoodChat again, OP doesn't need a derail.

knittingaddict · 23/01/2023 16:45

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:09

I'm not sure that he's actually completely wrong here. He's right in that you were upset because he didn't say he loved you back. What's the point in saying it just because someone's said it to you?

You should say it in those moments where you get that pang of "oh my god" - not just because.

Because that's what you do in a loving relationship. It's 3 simple words. Why withhold those words unless you are trying to upset someone. It's nasty.

And then there's the pathetic big deal he made of it afterwards. The man's a twit.

GoodChat · 23/01/2023 16:45

Don't tag me if it's not aimed at me @KettrickenSmiled.

Deerlander · 23/01/2023 16:55

Don't tell me you've spent 3 years being this submisive.

You need to expect more from a partner.

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 17:08

I got nasty back later on on the evening. Yes I felt like it was nasty and unexpected, and I wish I had been quiet all the next day rather than going from confused, to emotional to angry. I’m sure he was just “making a point” but questioning why

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KillingLoneliness · 23/01/2023 17:09

OP life is too short to waste it on shit like this, find someone worthy of you!

Leomii81 · 23/01/2023 17:10

Has he apologised op

Seapearlstar · 23/01/2023 17:15

He hasn’t apologised. The last message I got is that he feels traumatised and is processing nasty things I’ve said and trying to get his head straight

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