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Half brother. Carry on faking or not? WWYD?

155 replies

Ladyof2022 · 31/12/2022 19:32

I am sorry that this turned out to be so lengthy. I imagined I could tell the whole thing in a couple of paragraphs but somehow it just kept growing.

It's turned into a combination of getting my thoughts straight, getting this hurt off my chest, and asking a WWYD and an AIBU? at the end. Please don't feel obliged to read it if you don't have time!

I am 65 and have a half-brother 15 years older than me. He is the son of mum's first marriage and we did not grow up in the same house. I only met him now and again from my age 5 to 11, when he moved in with me, our mum and my dad for about 6 months when he was 25. After he moved out we went back to meeting only now and again for short periods of time.

I have no other siblings and both my parents are dead, so he is now the elder and I suppose "head" of the "family" and also, legally, he is my next of kin. Actually he is my ONLY kin as I am not married and have no children.

We are not like brother and sister; his place in my life has been more like that of a distant uncle, partly I suppose because he's nearly old enough to be my dad. We've never fallen out, but never been close, either.

He's an extremely gregarious man who over the years had hosted many dinner and house parties; he thinks nothing of inviting 20 or 30 people to his house for the day. He used to invite me to every one of his gatherings, house parties, wedding anniversaries and birthday parties but after Mum died 15 yrs ago he just stopped inviting me without saying why and I was too hurt or too shy to ask why.

Over the 50 years of his marriage he and his wife have been away for hundreds of weekends or holidays with other couples or other family members. For 30 years they owned a holiday home abroad and everyone they know seems to have been invited to stay there either with them, or when they were not using it. However, he has never once invited me to stay at his house or his holiday place or to go on holiday or a weekend away.

He invited me to spend the day at his house (along with about 10+ other guests) every Boxing Day for over 20 years; however, he never once invited me for Xmas Day, as that was reserved for his real family (i.e. his kids, our mum, his MIL, etc).

He and my SIL raised two children whom I very rarely met during their childhood, and I have not seen them or had contact with them since the last time I was there for Boxing Day in 2008. They grew up, left home, married and had kids of their own, whom I have never met. None have ever made contact with me, even though I am easily findable on Facebook or through their mother. So they, also, want nothing to do with me.

Three years after Mum died, without explanation he ceased inviting me to his yearly Boxing Day gatherings. Birthday and Christmas cards began to be signed only by his wife. If I ring them they never answer the phone and they don't have an answerphone. He used to phone me 3 or 4 times a year, but that has devolved into his wife ringing me once a year. (I've known his wife since they started dating 50 years ago.) When she rings she always "can't chat for long" as she's "about to go out" or has "some potatoes on the hob" or expecting a guest any minute. I get the feeling that she only rings out of some kind of "duty" or obligation and if that is the case, I would rather she not bother. I don't want to be a chore to anyone. However, I am polite and chirpy and friendly and she will cheerily tell me about the gatherings and holidays and outings they've had in the last few months. If I ask to speak to my brother he's "at work". (He's in the entertainment industry and, though he's pushing 80, is still working, albeit part time.)

At the end of these phone calls my SIL always says they "must come to visit me soon" and I agree, and sometimes I suggest a date based on what's coming up, like one of our birthdays, or Easter. She then says she will liaise with him about when would be the best time to come, and will ring me back, but she never does. Nowadays, we live only 40 miles apart, and although I am now disabled and I do not drive so cannot visit them, he still drives and is fit and well, driving to work 2 to 3 days a week. And yet he has not been to visit me for seven years.

Seven years!

During that time, as his wife knows, as I have told her, that I've suffered from clinical depression, developed an anxiety disorder, had a breakdown through being relentlessly bullied by a group of people, lost my partner to cancer, and become physically disabled, losing my mobility, which has been very traumatic, and yet none of these life events have prompted him to want to even speak to me on the phone, let alone actually visit me, and yet he is only 45 minutes away by car.

He is, clearly, willing to go to his grave without EVER seeing me again. And I have no idea why.

At this point I ought to say, in case anyone is wondering, that to my knowledge I have never done anything to deserve being dropped and excluded from their life. I've never got drunk or caused an argument or committed a faux pas. We've never had an argument or any strife between us. Believe me, I have wracked my brain on many occasions trying to remember anything I may have said or done to make him dislike me, which he clearly does, and I am at a complete loss. He kept me on the margins of his life until Mum died, and it seems to be her death that prompted him to push me even off the margin and out of his life altogether.

What has prompted me to post this today is that I received the usual Xmas card, written as usual by her, not him, signed "All our love" and "See you soon!" And yet it's crystal clear that they do not "love" me at all and have zero intention of seeing me "soon", nor indeed at all for the rest of our lives.

I hate fakery, and these yearly birthday and Xmas cards, and yearly, breezy, brief phone calls, are fakery, aren't they? I did not bother sending them a card this year as I am sick and tired of engaging with the fakery of sending "all my love" to them and going along with the fiction that we will see each other "soon".

I have thought about writing to them and telling them how hurt I am by their actions in gradually cutting contact with me without giving me any reason or explanation. Should I? Or will this simply make things worse?

Because of his unbrotherly treatment of me, I have made sure that he, though he is my next of kin, gets nothing in my will and that means his kids or grandkids will not inherit from me. (I don't have much money but I do own a large house that is worth a small fortune). Am I wrong to do this? Is that just being spiteful in retaliation, or the right thing to do under the circumstances?

OP posts:
Whowhatwherewhenwhynow · 31/12/2022 19:36

Sounds like you have no, and never have had any relationship with him.

I agree you could not put him in your will. As for his children, we’ll that’s up to you.

maybe find someone, or a charity, that means something important to you to leave your money to. Doesn’t sound like he needs it

you could try writing a letter to explain how you feel. How would you feel if you received no reply though? Or denials ?

cushionfiend · 31/12/2022 19:43

I would imagine that it's your large house that keeps his wife keeping in contact with you. This situation sounds very hurtful - sounds like you've done everything you can, you might just need to walk away from this one. Seven years is a long time not to see someone, especially when they only live 40 miles away. Very sad for you, and so hard when you don't know why.

oftener · 31/12/2022 19:47

I would drop all contact with them. Avoid the annual duty calls and don't reciprocate with, or send, cards. The minimal contact you do now have is not beneficial to you in any way.

Wasywasydoodah · 31/12/2022 19:49

It’s clear that you’re in the “distant relative “ and category in his life rather than close relative/close friend category. Treat him as a distant relative and adjust your expectations of him, and you’ll probably be happier.

asdhelp123 · 31/12/2022 19:57

Ugh, what a pair they are. Totally agree with you in distancing yourself from them - ie not sending them a card this year and deciding not to put them in your will.

They sound utterly odious and bad for your self esteem so I’m pleased you’re stepping back from them.

As for the question as to telling them how you feel - I’m on the fence on that one. Can you be arsed with the dust it’ll kick up? Then again, sometimes feels better to be ‘straight’ with people so I can see why you might want to tell them how you feel. You could just step back from them, eg don’t send cards for bdays/Xmas, and be unavailable when you get the silly once a year call.

Good luck moving forward without them making you feel like shit anymore. Xxx

category12 · 31/12/2022 20:00

I'm not sure challenging them on this will help you really.

I think you need to accept that he probably only used to invite you to please your mum. You haven't done anything wrong.

It does sound like you've been quite passive rather than active in trying to build relationships with family outside of him & his wife?

I would just leave it and try to invest in your friendships instead.

RandomMess · 31/12/2022 20:02

Drop the rope, stop bothering and focus on your friends that do value you

Flowers
Treeofglitter · 31/12/2022 20:04

Don't send any more cards and don't pick up the phone when the SIL calls. Make sure that your will mentions all of them ie your half brother, the SIL any children and that they will receive £5 between them to show that you have considered them and that this is all they are worth to you. They are probably keeping in contact in case there is an inheritance.

Be done with all the fake love and affection. Can you have a living will so that if you are incapacitated someone can act on your behalf? Also you can possibly name someone to arrange your funeral in the future. Do you have any close friends who can do this? I would seek legal advice to see how to make these things happen so that your half brother doesn't get any say in anything.

Edinburghmusing · 31/12/2022 20:06

It won’t be anything you’ve done.

i agree it’s probably best to drop the rope. Grieve the loss of your family - as I imagine you also feel it is a connection to your mum - so thst will be hard. And then move on

DEFINITELY don’t leave him your house. But also don’t tell him that or you might all of a sudden you are being buttered up to and that will be just as hurtful.

Judgyjudgy · 31/12/2022 20:09

I think you should just ask him if something has happened as he seems distant. I personally wouldn't leave him anything in my will, but that of course is up to you

jtaeapa · 31/12/2022 20:10

Just don't bother engaging anymore. Might not have been anything you did. Just different people and different lives. I don't think you owe his family any inheritance - you don't even know them.

Teletubby22 · 31/12/2022 20:14

Don't send any more cards and don't pick up the phone when the SIL calls. Make sure that your will mentions all of them ie your half brother, the SIL any children and that they will receive £5 between them to show that you have considered them and that this is all they are worth to you. They are probably keeping in contact in case there is an inheritance.

This, especially the £5 between them. They will be hoping for something in your will & will feel humiliated when told by your solicitor that's all they're getting.

VioletLemon · 31/12/2022 20:15

This is rotten. I'd imagine just ceasing contact will make you at least feel in control. You don't have a relationship with him he's never really been a brother to you. He sounds like a tosser for inviting your Mum but not you, that's sheer spite. Can't you appoint someone in lieu of next of kin, like a power of attorney. Make sure your will is upto date so you can donate your assets to a friend or a worthy cause you support. Ditch this horrible couple and be free.

IncompleteSenten · 31/12/2022 20:15

You don't owe them your house and I agree with pp, his wife may be keeping things open so her kids can inherit.

It sounds like he did not grow up in your mum's custody. Is that correct? I wonder if there is resentment at the heart of his attitude. Hurt that his mum had a 'new' family that he wasn't fully a part of (in his opinion)

PussInBin20 · 31/12/2022 20:16

It sounds like your just not that close. You said in your 3rd paragraph that you didn’t grow up in the same house and apart from 6 mths, you only saw him now and again. Therefore I would conclude that you’re not really like traditional siblings where you would have a better chance of bonding. It seems with the age gap as well, that that just didn’t happen.

You don’t say whether you invited him to many things or what efforts you made with him to try and be closer, so if you are just expecting him to do all the running, that may also be a factor?

I think it’s probably a bit late to address it all now but I agree with not leaving anything to him or his family from your will. I mean you don’t even know them so why would you?

As others have said, I think you should get on with your life without him.

Itsthewhitehat · 31/12/2022 20:16

It sounds like you only had a relationship because of your mum. Have you looked at it from his position?

How many times did you host dinner parties for him to attend? Boxing days events for him to attend? New years? Or just generally?

How much contact have you tried to have with his kids, aside from just going to parties at your brothers house? What did you do to foster an Aunt relationship with the kids.

You do seemed to have shared a lot of detail with a woman, you don’t have much relationship with. You say you told her of all your problems in the time since you saw him last. Maybe they aren’t sure how to deal with your problems. A lot of people do become uncomfortable with mental and physical illness. Especially when it’s someone they don’t know well.

I am not saying it’s all your fault. But from his side it could feel that he put in effort while your mum was here, for your mum. Then decided not to.

His wife may just feel they have an an obligation to remain in touch.

Workawayxx · 31/12/2022 20:18

I’d definitely just stop engaging. Do you feel that challenging him on his behaviour would help you and feel cathartic or kot? I’d base it on that. if you feel it would help to have a full stop to the relationship then I’d maybe send a short email/ letter just saying you have decided to stop trying on the face of lack of interest on their side.

I’m sorry they’re doing this to you. definitely dont leave any of them any money - you are in no way obligated to do so.

Windtunnel · 31/12/2022 20:24

Oh there is another thread on here about a chap who I suggested has mother issues, op agreed.
So maybe again, could it be he feels he was framing himself I'm a certain light vis a vis your mother and now she's gone there is no real need to continue the relationship with you (in his head anyway), as it was only abou you as an extension of his mother?
He has not considered you in this, the gen-z's are calling this "main charactering".

Very hurtful behaviour for you though xx

AlisonDonut · 31/12/2022 20:25

I don't think either of you owe each other anything. Do you get anything out of this other than upset?

Bananarama21 · 31/12/2022 20:26

By your own admission you never grew up together or were close. He was close with his mother and that relationship ended when she died.

TheCatterall · 31/12/2022 20:30

He doesn’t owe you a relationship and has tried to show some interest over the years. You’ve said yourself you aren’t close.

just move on. Neither of you have done anything wrong. It’s just a faded relationship and needs to draw to a close. We have folks in my family - and extended elderly friends of my parents that have become a chore to stay in touch with. There’s nothing wrong with them- we just don’t have a relationship and it’s an additional mental burden to keep tally of.

he’s moved on. His wife’s being polite.

just send a card at Christmas or don’t. But the relationship is over such as it was anyway.

Concentrate on people who are in your life and walk away from this. And don’t send a letter etc. you’ll sound bitter when they haven’t wronged you.

StClare101 · 31/12/2022 20:31

All those invitations he sent you over the years…. Did you ever invite him back? He used to call you four times a year. Did you ever call him? Your post comes across as you being very passive and him having to do all the work. Maybe he just got sick of it.

GoT1904 · 31/12/2022 20:33

How close was your brother to your mum? My thought was that maybe you remind him of her and so he's avoiding the pain. Obviously I could be way off.

HoneyIShrunkThePizza · 31/12/2022 20:34

It's very sad for you, but it sounds like following his parents break up your mother left him with his father? There may be lingering resentment there, but even if not, he is 80 and maybe focussing his efforts on those closest to him which is his prerogative. If it were me I'd find a great charity to leave the house to and move on. He only saw you a few times growing up, you were both the children in this situation, I don't think he really owes anyone a relationship as callous as it must feel.

billyduck · 31/12/2022 20:35

OP your post made me sad.
You sound like a nice person and I would drop contact all together. Relationships should be two way, and it sounds he has checked out. And you are right, he does sound fake as does his wife

I wouid leave your house to someone who cares for you .

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