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Genuinely confused about what to do - dating

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Givinguponthissituation · 24/12/2022 06:55

i (40) started seeing a man (48) at the beginning of September. We both have very busy jobs and divorced with DC and live two hours away from each other but both work in London.

At the beginning of dating we had quite an intense experience - seeing each other 2-3 times a week and going away together for 5 days (i went on a work trip and he opted to come with me - he owns his own business) where we first slept together. We both agreed it was wonderful, we got close, loved being together etc, not easy to stay in a hotel room for 5 days with someone you don’t know well etc. He told me he thought he “could really fall for me.”

he warned me in mid-nov that the lead up to Christmas would be crazy busy for him and he’d be less available. I assumed we would snatch time when we could but it did not work out like that. He was in London frequently going to various work related events and saying he would call / text when he had finished but then texting late and saying he was heading home. His DC also got quite ill with bugs (as did everyone) and so he stopped coming into London and worked from home. He was also not particularly consistent with contact. It averaged a few whatsapps every other day and a call 2-3 times a week. I would have liked more but did not over - text and took his lead.

i naturallly withdrew over this period as I took it to mean he was not as into me as I was into him (I certainly would have made the space and effort if I really liked someone.) When I initially withdrew he got upset and called and texted me a series of times telling me it was just difficult during this period and we would see each other a lot in the new year.

there we’re two events over the last two weeks that he said he’d see me after (both ended at 9/10 at night) but he went home instead and texted me. One of them he apparently thought it was too late (the event had gone on until 11.30) and the other he had to get home to look after his DC who were off school with illness the next day. He very much left me to draw conclusions of my own rather than be specific. For eg the first event, I had got dressed up and was waiting by the phone at 9.30 for him to call to say where to meet. Instead he texted at 11.30 saying his event had gone on longer and he was on his way home. No call or anything.

I withdrew again as I felt if he really wanted to see me he would have made the effort.

after 2 days of not responding to his contact with me, he sent me an email and a text. In the email were two tickets to NYC on 22jan and a hotel booking, and the text said the following:

I’m really sorry about the last few weeks. I don’t mean to give mixed messages.
I have an idea what you’re thinking but it’s not true. Work has been frantic, always is at this time as I’m sure it is with you. You are on my mind a lot, and when we speak and I see you it reminds me how much I miss time together. The new year will bring us more time. Xxx

this week I have been away in France with DC and he and I have had balanced, contact. It is not enough for me as it is but the future promise of “next year” keeps me hopeful. I don’t know what to think. Every time I bring it up or give him a chance to get out of it, he insists he doesn’t want that, or. Says something like “please don’t dump me for what I can’t control.”

what do you all think?

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Seaoftroubles · 27/12/2022 11:12

Have you ever been to his home?
If not l'd say almost certainly married or has a partner.

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 11:13

Thank you all, you are making me feel much better!

I find it weird that if the nomination was the pinnacle of his usage of me that he threw all his cards away before he played them.

That really does have to be a special kind of stupid

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category12 · 27/12/2022 11:13

VisaGeezer · 27/12/2022 11:04

You've got to be a particular kind of stupid & flaky to treat someone who could do you a big favour professionally (and therefore financially) so cavalierly and rudely.

Theres definitely something going on with him.

I presume he thought since you've stayed on the hook all through the previous cancellations and flakes, that he'd get away with it again .... Dumb and immature.

I think arrogant.

He thinks he's so great, (or that OP is so cockstruck) that he can treat her like crap and he just has to click his fingers & she'll come back for more.

Startlingly brazen and entitled that he'd be asking her to put him up for business opportunities while treating her so rudely.

He reeled her back in with NYC last time, so he reckons the carrot of that will be enough to keep her on the backburner, while he's up to whatever he's up to.

It could be that he just has a few women on the go and he's currently reeling another one back in, rather than being married. But probably married.

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 11:15

Maybe he thinks he is holding the trip to new york in positive credit or something 👽

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DatingDinosaur · 27/12/2022 11:40

After reading your update/s I retract what I said before.

He keeps standing you up and thinking an apology and some kisses at the end of an explanation message makes that okay? Once maybe, but.. Confused

At best, he wants a part-time lover who’ll fit in with his plans because he doesn’t have the actual time for a proper relationship right now but it really does sound like he’s using you to further his career too.

Whether he’s married or not, his behaviour is shite. You deserve better.

Given your bad signal, next time he calls, say “sorry, you’re breaking up, just like we are, bye”.

Billslills · 27/12/2022 11:48

I imagine if he has lived his entire life controlling people and situations and would honestly be thinking nothing more of it. He’ll be the sure the NYC trip will get you back.

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 11:49

Unbelievable. Just found his FB profile. And his wife's!

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ihatesoaps · 27/12/2022 11:53

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 11:49

Unbelievable. Just found his FB profile. And his wife's!

OMG!

toobusytothink · 27/12/2022 11:55

Oh…. In that case I would screenshot his wife’s profile, send it to him with a simple “it’s over”. Then block and move on. The absolute shit!

DonutCrossMeIEatYou · 27/12/2022 11:57

Oh FFSSSSSSSSSS 🤦🏻‍♀️

Sorry OP. Thought sounded like you had the ick already. Grim.

Remona · 27/12/2022 11:58

What are you going to do, OP?

I wouldn’t let on that you know just yet and I’d give him a taste of his own medicine but I can be very petty like that.

Keep your cards close to your chest for now.

yellowsmileyface · 27/12/2022 11:58

Well shit! We expected it anyway but it still must be a shock for you.

Also, his poor wife.

DatingDinosaur · 27/12/2022 11:58

toobusytothink · 27/12/2022 11:55

Oh…. In that case I would screenshot his wife’s profile, send it to him with a simple “it’s over”. Then block and move on. The absolute shit!

This ^^

NotToBeOrToBe · 27/12/2022 11:58

You knew that was coming OP. Utter scum.

I found myself in this position once, luckily only 3 days in and we hadn't had sex. I messaged him say 'I know you are married, and I will be telling your wife. She deserves better'. Then I blocked him.

I never intended on telling his wife but I hope he shit himsel (he also didn't know where I lived).

NotToBeOrToBe · 27/12/2022 11:59

Dates*

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 12:00

I feel pretty shocked tbh. I know you all told me. It's just the reality of seeing it was so different. Family pics, DC, Christmas, the works!

I don't know what to do? Tell him? Tell her?

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Iamthewombat · 27/12/2022 12:06

I wouldn’t out him. Why risk the repercussions in your career, if you and he work in the same field? Plus, you just know that he’d portray you as a ‘bunny boiler’, and not just to his wife.

I’d be scheming ways to take that NY holiday without him, and with a friend. Sweet, sweet revenge. Are the plane tickets and hotel he emailed to you non-refundable? You could WhatsApp him photos of you drinking his health with a Manhattan in Manhattan etc. Hahaha.

Pineappleskies · 27/12/2022 12:09

You have handled yourself with such poise and grace.

I too felt sure he was married...now you know.

Keep your poise and grace, don't let him turn you into someone you're not.

He's a horrible creature.

I wouldn't waste any of your honesty on him. I'd block without explanation. Don't ever reveal what you really know or think to a manipulative person. It's dangerous and won't achieve anything.

Remona · 27/12/2022 12:20

Don't make a knee jerk reaction. Often what we want to do in the heat of the moment isn't the right thing to do. Give yourself some thinking time. Sleep on it at the very least. Keep your powder dry.

I'd keep quiet for now. Don't contact him but if he does message about meeting tomorrow, I'd be tempted to continue the charade. Presuming he doesn't bale on that too, I'd go with the flow then wait for him to say "where are you?" leave it half an hour then say "something has come up with the kids". I would wait for the opportune moment to show my cards and right now isn't it.

DatingDinosaur · 27/12/2022 12:31

“I don't know what to do? Tell him? Tell her?”

Tell him you know he’s married and end it. Let him stew in his own juices as to whether he thinks you’ll tell his wife or not.

Personally, I wouldn’t tell her.

But oh yeah, if there’s any way you can keep those NYC tickets then grab a friend and have fun. Consider it compensation for his deception. Plus, if he’s bought them and told his wife it’s a business trip, how’s he going to explain the funds going out of his bank but him staying home?

Having said that, I do like @Remona 's suggestion Grin

dontputitthere · 27/12/2022 12:40

I'm sorry. How shitty

I agree with pp. keep your power dry.

If there's any way of wangling those nyc tickets for you and a friend I would bloody do it....!

QueueEtwo · 27/12/2022 12:50

I'd send him a screenshot of the Christmas family photo & then block him!

Make him sweat abit about what you might do & then just forget about him & move on!

What an arse!

Seaoftroubles · 27/12/2022 13:03

I think you should tell her. She deserves to know that her husband is a cheating piece of shit. Or else tell him you know and if he doesn't enlighten her then you will!

ttcttc · 27/12/2022 13:12

Givinguponthissituation · 27/12/2022 12:00

I feel pretty shocked tbh. I know you all told me. It's just the reality of seeing it was so different. Family pics, DC, Christmas, the works!

I don't know what to do? Tell him? Tell her?

"I've seen you for what you are. Shame on you for wasting my time. I don't fancy being with you or going to New York.. maybe you could do a name change and take your lovely wife. Merry christmas" BLOCK

Reindeersnooker · 27/12/2022 13:24

I'm really sorry you're going through this. How awful for you.