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New boyfriend is having female holiday friend come to stay

719 replies

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 19:21

I’m embarrassed about how upset I am about this….

The situation is I’ve been seeing someone for 5 months. He’s great fun to be with and I really enjoy his company. He ticks nearly all the boxes of what I’m looking for. When we are together we get on fantastically, he’s been supportive over difficulties I have had with my ex and the sex is great. It’s been tricky coordinating diaries as we are both busy and I don’t always get the sense that he’s desperate to see me although he’s very good at keeping in text contact.

He went on a family adventure holiday for 2.5 weeks in August. He got friendly with another family - a single mum and her daughter who is the same age as his son. A couple of weeks ago he messaged to say she’d asked if she and her daughter could come to stay with him over half term (apparently he had said if she was ever in the area she should visit) and he wanted to know my thoughts before responding.

I felt totally sick at the thought but took some time to respond after getting opinions from friends who were unanimous that they wouldn’t like this either. (I needed friends views as I don’t always trust my feelings after being gaslighted by my ex for years.)

Anyway I responded and said sorry but it’s a deal breaker for me.It’s not even just that I would worry that something would go on between them, it’s also that this other woman would be getting quality time with him in a way that hasn’t come readily to me.

I think he was very surprised as he’d expected me to say I was fine with it. We had a long chat about whether we were right for each other as he feels he doesn’t always say the right things. He said he’d not given this woman an answer one way or the other and I thought/hoped it was just going to be dropped as a plan.

Then he seemed to really step up the effort and arranged a weekend away. We had an amazing time and got on so well. But as he dropped me back home I thought I should double check about the visit. Then he told me that he’d had a conversation with this woman several days prior and said she could come.

I feel absolutely devastated and since then my mood and anxiety have been awful. I’m so upset we went away and had lots of intimacy when he had already made a decision to do something I’d told him was a dealbreaker. I asked when he was planning to tell me and he said when I asked or nearer to the time. I feel like my feelings are not important to him. However I didn’t want to overreact so I’ve sat on it for the last week or so. I’ve seen him once since and I didn’t mention it and our text chats are mostly fun and lighthearted.

But I can’t sleep, I’m preoccupied with this and I feel utterly worthless. I feel if I say something he will say we are not compatible so I have to put up with this if I want the relationship to continue. He said he said yes to her as he had to be ‘true to himself’.

He has since said I could come and meet this woman but as he doesn’t want me to meet his son yet (as it’s early days which I understand, and I haven’t introduced my kids yet) I think he will backtrack on that nearer the time. I know nothing about her, not even her name let alone what she’s like, if she’s single or what she looks like. I can’t imagine meeting some bloke on holiday then arranging a visit but he tells me this is completely normal and most people do it and would be fine with it.

Sorry it’s long but I d be grateful for any advice as I don’t think I can cope with being this anxious for the next few weeks. My life is pretty difficult in a number of other ways and I just want some happiness and safety. Please be kind as I’m feeling sad and vulnerable.

OP posts:
yougotthelook · 28/09/2022 20:57

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 20:34

Apparently the women was keen to visit as her daughter really liked his son. She’s visiting friends about 100 miles from here so not exactly round the corner but wanted to combine the trips. I asked if his son was really keen and he said he was happy enough but not desperate for the visit to go ahead. So I think he agreed for his own ego boost/other reasons rather than for his son.

he’s told me spending two weeks together on this organised trip was quite intense so the 3 or 4 families all became very friendly. I didn’t have an issue with any of that. This I do. 😞

God you're a better woman than me OP!
I'd have had an issue with the holiday thing already, never mind the bloody visit!
I guarantee you will look back on this in a few months time and think what an absolute bell end this man is.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 20:58

I think you also need to accept op they have stayed in touch be it message or FaceTime etc, has there been a chance he’s been to see her?

SparklingLime · 28/09/2022 21:02

If you tolerate this fuckery then he has set you up for a relationship lacking in any real respect for you. However he - or you - dress it up, your wishes and boundaries have been totally ignored. If you accept that you’re in for worse, as he knows you’ll put yourself last, as he does.

He calls himself a people pleaser? The sole person he is interested in pleasing is himself.

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 21:03

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 20:54

The thing I've taken from this is that he spent a total of 2.5 weeks with this woman in August (so a month ago) and you've been with him for 5 months. He doesn't want you to meet his son yet (understandable) but he's happy for a complete stranger he's known for a month to come and stay with him - and presumably his son - for a week

there is a high chance in the 2.5 weeks she spent more time with him than the op has in 5 months. She says right off he doesn’t seem always keen to see her and communicates a lot by text.

op. Do you actually spend a lot of time together?

I was having a bit of an issue that I didn’t see him much. He’s been away lots of times and I’ve had trips away too so to be fair there hasn’t been a lot of time. I have my kids a lot of the time but I have been as flexible as I can be. We only see each other once a week or fortnight on average apart from 2 weekends we had together. I have talked to him and it has got better so we met for a walk at the weekend just gone even though we both had our kids. He’s very good at keeping in touch and seems to care about how I am. Apart from on this issue.

OP posts:
mewkins · 28/09/2022 21:03

He's very manipulative. You told him it was a deal breaker so he took you away for the weekend (presumably to keep you dangling and less inclined to dump him). Being with someone who can't set proper boundaries with other people will be a nightmare for you. Get out now.

Ginger1982 · 28/09/2022 21:05

Dump him now.

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 21:06

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 20:58

I think you also need to accept op they have stayed in touch be it message or FaceTime etc, has there been a chance he’s been to see her?

I don’t think he would have visited her. He wouldn’t have had the opportunity and I assume she must live the other end of the country. He has messaged a bit as far as I know. He told me about her when he got back and mentioned her daughter had been keen to visit. I didn’t for a moment think it would actually happen.

OP posts:
Noteverybodylives · 28/09/2022 21:06

We only see each other once a week or fortnight on average apart from 2 weekends we had together.

So you’ve only seen each other about 10-20 times.

This is way too much of a headache for something that is meant to be so much fun!

AnyFucker · 28/09/2022 21:06

You shouldn’t keep anyone in your life who makes you feel like this

Move on

WTF99 · 28/09/2022 21:08

Northbright · 28/09/2022 19:30

I think he's being really odd. It's not an old friend that he made years ago; it's a new random woman. It's not normal for her to want to come and stay with a new bloke living on his own unless either of them thinks it's going to lead somewhere. The fact he's putting her staying with him before your feelings speaks volumes.

This...
He's being a shit and you deserve better

Sausagelove · 28/09/2022 21:10

She’s not travelling 100 miles out of her way to indulge her daughter.

Before a betrayal there are small betrayals. You already have the small betrayals and the lying. Don’t give this idiot the opportunity to cheat on you. Because this is where it’s going, and they’ve obviously had significant contact.

FairyLightAddict · 28/09/2022 21:12

Seriously odd. Sadly he doesn't give a shit about your feelings. Total dealbreaker.

Mumofnarnia · 28/09/2022 21:19

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 21:06

I don’t think he would have visited her. He wouldn’t have had the opportunity and I assume she must live the other end of the country. He has messaged a bit as far as I know. He told me about her when he got back and mentioned her daughter had been keen to visit. I didn’t for a moment think it would actually happen.

Please don’t defend him. They have stayed in touch since returning home and he has no respect for your feelings! It seems pretty obvious where this is heading! And even if something isn’t going on, you can bet your life one of them is hoping there will be!

Whichwhatnow · 28/09/2022 21:21

You say he describes himself as a people pleaser? Be very careful. In my experience (and that of friends) 'people pleasers' only mean people that they're trying to impress or in situations that will make them popular or look good. Very rarely does it extend to 'pleasing' or putting first their romantic partner (because nobody else can see them do that so what's the point, basically).

At this stage I'd honestly remind him it was a deal breaker and ditch.

TOclock · 28/09/2022 21:22

You said it was a dealbreaker so stand by your word. Don't let yourself be disrespected by someone who obviously has no regards for your feelings.

Clymene · 28/09/2022 21:22

Oh I've just twigged what you meant by adventure holiday. I've been on one of those (pre kids). They are super intense - you're with the group every waking hour and bonds form very quickly. On my trip there were 2 couples and the rest of us were on our own. Three of the single blokes (only one of them wasn't actually single) got together with a woman on the trip.

They will have spent more time together in those 2.5 weeks than you have in 5 months. Like 15 hours a day, every single day.

In any event, you told him it was a dealbreaker and he's gone ahead. If you back down, he knows he can just trample all over you and your boundaries are nothing.

You have to end it.

TokyoTen · 28/09/2022 21:23

Dump him. He knew you'd be upset and went ahead anyway. You're only 5 months in don't waste more time on him, honestly I half expect he is lining her up and hedging his bets. Sorry OP but I'd get rid before she came.

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 21:24

I know it sounds like I’m defending him. I’m trying so hard to be mature and see it from all sides even though I know what my instinct said initially. It’s just so bloody disappointing that they all turn out to be so flawed

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bjrce · 28/09/2022 21:24

OP

The fact that you like him so much is Skewing your thought process!

Absolutely get rid of him, as another posted previously stated, there is definitely messages going on between them that he's not telling you about. He'll only divulge what he is asked directly. He wasn't even going to tell you she was coming until the last hour!

The fact that you told him how you felt, didn't matter a jot, he's going to have her over either way. He's very manipulative!

I would definitely get rid of him. You really are worth more than that.

Wonder how he's feel if it was the other way around?

He's a dick head! Sorry!

LoupsGarous · 28/09/2022 21:25

theelevatorboots · 28/09/2022 19:30

The thing I've taken from this is that he spent a total of 2.5 weeks with this woman in August (so a month ago) and you've been with him for 5 months. He doesn't want you to meet his son yet (understandable) but he's happy for a complete stranger he's known for a month to come and stay with him - and presumably his son - for a week?
Absolutely not. His priorities are all wrong, dump him.

I don’t think his priorities are wrong. I think it’s perfectly normal for him to be happy for his son to spend a few days with a casual friend whose child is the son’s own age and with whom he presumably got along well with on holiday — remember his son has already spent a couple of weeks around this woman on holiday. I think that’s entirely different to his child meeting a woman with whom he’s in a serious relationship, who may or may not become a permanent part of his life if the relationship lasts. Two completely different things.

But the OP doesn’t feel he’s always that keen on spending time with her. I imagine her sense he’s not that into her is behind her violent reaction to a visit from a new friend. It doesn’t sound as if she’s getting what she needs.

BlodynGwyn · 28/09/2022 21:26

You told him how you felt and he didn't care. That's a big red flag.

He probably thinks, having the woman and her daughter visit will be fun for the kids, and they have all met each other already, so no big deal - and he's a people pleaser. But, you told him it was a deal breaker and still he went ahead. That's shocking to me.

I'm very sorry as I know how this is hurting you. He would not make a good partner/husband as he's thoughtless and rather cruel. By ending it now you are saving yourself much heartbreak down the road.

AlwaysGinPlease · 28/09/2022 21:28

She's not a friend. They only met in August. He sees her or they see each other as a possible partner/FB. Don't stand for this fuck muppetry.

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 21:31

But, you told him it was a deal breaker and still he went ahead. That's shocking to me

see I’m not quite with you . I think his mistake is asking a relatively new girlfriend if it was ok. He should just have told her that she was coming.

I’d not let a new boyfriend dictate to me if I could have friends stay or not. Maybe he was just being polite and didn’t Expect the op to react so jealously. Either way the issue is he didn’t know the op well enough to know her reaction.

he was always letting his friend stay and he’s not letting new girlfriends dictate his friendships, fair enough, the issue is he asked and he shouldn’t have done and then he lied by omission when it was a done deal.

LoupsGarous · 28/09/2022 21:35

Fullsomefrenchie · 28/09/2022 21:31

But, you told him it was a deal breaker and still he went ahead. That's shocking to me

see I’m not quite with you . I think his mistake is asking a relatively new girlfriend if it was ok. He should just have told her that she was coming.

I’d not let a new boyfriend dictate to me if I could have friends stay or not. Maybe he was just being polite and didn’t Expect the op to react so jealously. Either way the issue is he didn’t know the op well enough to know her reaction.

he was always letting his friend stay and he’s not letting new girlfriends dictate his friendships, fair enough, the issue is he asked and he shouldn’t have done and then he lied by omission when it was a done deal.

This. It wouldn’t even occur to me to run this past a new boyfriend. All friendships start somewhere — being on holiday in the same place for a couple of weeks as single parents with similarly aged children seems like an obvious point for a friendship to start.

HyggeandTea · 28/09/2022 21:39

He's not for you. Respect yourself and walk away with dignity. xx