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New boyfriend is having female holiday friend come to stay

719 replies

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 19:21

I’m embarrassed about how upset I am about this….

The situation is I’ve been seeing someone for 5 months. He’s great fun to be with and I really enjoy his company. He ticks nearly all the boxes of what I’m looking for. When we are together we get on fantastically, he’s been supportive over difficulties I have had with my ex and the sex is great. It’s been tricky coordinating diaries as we are both busy and I don’t always get the sense that he’s desperate to see me although he’s very good at keeping in text contact.

He went on a family adventure holiday for 2.5 weeks in August. He got friendly with another family - a single mum and her daughter who is the same age as his son. A couple of weeks ago he messaged to say she’d asked if she and her daughter could come to stay with him over half term (apparently he had said if she was ever in the area she should visit) and he wanted to know my thoughts before responding.

I felt totally sick at the thought but took some time to respond after getting opinions from friends who were unanimous that they wouldn’t like this either. (I needed friends views as I don’t always trust my feelings after being gaslighted by my ex for years.)

Anyway I responded and said sorry but it’s a deal breaker for me.It’s not even just that I would worry that something would go on between them, it’s also that this other woman would be getting quality time with him in a way that hasn’t come readily to me.

I think he was very surprised as he’d expected me to say I was fine with it. We had a long chat about whether we were right for each other as he feels he doesn’t always say the right things. He said he’d not given this woman an answer one way or the other and I thought/hoped it was just going to be dropped as a plan.

Then he seemed to really step up the effort and arranged a weekend away. We had an amazing time and got on so well. But as he dropped me back home I thought I should double check about the visit. Then he told me that he’d had a conversation with this woman several days prior and said she could come.

I feel absolutely devastated and since then my mood and anxiety have been awful. I’m so upset we went away and had lots of intimacy when he had already made a decision to do something I’d told him was a dealbreaker. I asked when he was planning to tell me and he said when I asked or nearer to the time. I feel like my feelings are not important to him. However I didn’t want to overreact so I’ve sat on it for the last week or so. I’ve seen him once since and I didn’t mention it and our text chats are mostly fun and lighthearted.

But I can’t sleep, I’m preoccupied with this and I feel utterly worthless. I feel if I say something he will say we are not compatible so I have to put up with this if I want the relationship to continue. He said he said yes to her as he had to be ‘true to himself’.

He has since said I could come and meet this woman but as he doesn’t want me to meet his son yet (as it’s early days which I understand, and I haven’t introduced my kids yet) I think he will backtrack on that nearer the time. I know nothing about her, not even her name let alone what she’s like, if she’s single or what she looks like. I can’t imagine meeting some bloke on holiday then arranging a visit but he tells me this is completely normal and most people do it and would be fine with it.

Sorry it’s long but I d be grateful for any advice as I don’t think I can cope with being this anxious for the next few weeks. My life is pretty difficult in a number of other ways and I just want some happiness and safety. Please be kind as I’m feeling sad and vulnerable.

OP posts:
Tassen · 28/09/2022 19:44

A friend he'd known years & there was no romantic interest on either parts then yes it's fine, but some random woman that he's only just met, no way!

Although there is the off chance it's completely platonic on both parts & nothing untoward is going to happen (which can be true)

However In your case "If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck"

Bin him, as he's playing you for a fool.

PaperPalace · 28/09/2022 19:45

He is completely wrong to say this is a normal thing that lots of people do. I've never invited a single man to come and stay with me when I'm in a relationship with someone else, and I'm sure most other people haven't either! How do you think he would feel if you had a male friend staying?

Ohhhhladz · 28/09/2022 19:45

This actually would not bother me much if he'd invited her before we were together and told me about it openly. (Which does not mean it's not OK for it to bether you - everyone has different boundaries and standards.)

BUT his asking you if it's OK and then, when you say no, saying he's already invited her and can;t go back on his word is bullshit. He went back on his word to you. It would break my trust in him - not because he necessarily plans to or will do anything intimate with this woman, but because he's just blatantly fake and insincere. Sorry, I know it's a pain in the arse, but better to find out now than later.

hassletassle · 28/09/2022 19:46

I wouldn't like it.

Absolutely no need for this woman to come and stay. It stinks. And he knows it'll upset you and he's doing it anyway.

You've only lost 5 months to this prick , get out now and don't look bag.

I haven't RTFT but I'm sure someone will be along to say how deeply uncool it is to object to this women staying ... but I don't care and nor should you.

ludocris · 28/09/2022 19:47

I feel if I say something he will say we are not compatible so I have to put up with this if I want the relationship to continue.

This is key. He may well say that, and he'd be right. For what it's worth I think this is a very suspicious situation and I don't think he's at all reasonable to think you should be fine with it, but even in the most generous interpretation of the situation, where he is genuinely just a really friendly guy who is happy to have anyone come and stay with him for purely platonic reasons, it doesn't work for you, and hence you're not compatible.

I'm really sorry - this is shit and I'm not surprised you're hurt and disappointed 💐

Flaxseedblueberry · 28/09/2022 19:47

Thanks for replies. Just to clarify a couple of points (not that it makes much difference) she’s bringing her 14 year old daughter (same age as his son) and is staying for 2 nights not the full week. He says she knows about me. I know absolutely nothing about her. He is the sort of person who has lots of male and female friends. He describes himself as a people pleaser by which I think he means he likes to be popular with everyone. So I think her attention (platonic or otherwise) matters more than my feelings.

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SquirrelSoShiny · 28/09/2022 19:48

Dump him. Waste no further time and don't take him back when his half term booty call is over.

WaltzingWaters · 28/09/2022 19:49

Time to end it. His priorities are not with you.

Wfhandbored · 28/09/2022 19:50

Our nursery key worker has a fantastic bond with our toddler and as a couple we have nobody we can really ask to babysit. We have my mum, but she does a lot for us anyway and gets tired as she's older so I don't want to ask more from her.

Anyway I spoke to keyworker and she said there's nothing in their contracts at nursery saying they can't babysit and that they openly do it for other families, she'd be really happy to do it for us too so I'm really happy!

I just don't know about the pay area so wanted to ask much do people pay babysitters?

yougotthelook · 28/09/2022 19:50

idonotmind · 28/09/2022 19:22

Yeah, get rid of him

Oh my god what bloody planet is he on?!?!
IN NO WAY is this acceptable!!!
I can't think of a woman alive who would accept this absolutely random, strange arrangement.
I think they may have been at it on holiday and this stay is carrying it on.
Please please dump this absolute twat...you are worth SO much more than this!
I'm fuming on your behalf tbh!!!
Sending love xxx

Wfhandbored · 28/09/2022 19:51

Wfhandbored · 28/09/2022 19:50

Our nursery key worker has a fantastic bond with our toddler and as a couple we have nobody we can really ask to babysit. We have my mum, but she does a lot for us anyway and gets tired as she's older so I don't want to ask more from her.

Anyway I spoke to keyworker and she said there's nothing in their contracts at nursery saying they can't babysit and that they openly do it for other families, she'd be really happy to do it for us too so I'm really happy!

I just don't know about the pay area so wanted to ask much do people pay babysitters?

Sorry this was meant to be my own post and I posted here!! Sorry sorry sorry

yougotthelook · 28/09/2022 19:52

Wfhandbored · 28/09/2022 19:50

Our nursery key worker has a fantastic bond with our toddler and as a couple we have nobody we can really ask to babysit. We have my mum, but she does a lot for us anyway and gets tired as she's older so I don't want to ask more from her.

Anyway I spoke to keyworker and she said there's nothing in their contracts at nursery saying they can't babysit and that they openly do it for other families, she'd be really happy to do it for us too so I'm really happy!

I just don't know about the pay area so wanted to ask much do people pay babysitters?

Wrong post luv!

powershowerforanhour · 28/09/2022 19:52

"he wanted to know my thoughts before responding."
"I responded and said sorry but it’s a deal breaker for me"
So your opinion has been noted and ignored. Not discussed, but ignored, because he just expected you to rubber stamp what he wanted. And he didn't even bother to tell you. Rude.

Tiani4 · 28/09/2022 19:53

Absolutely he is in the wrong here

He's manipulative
You told him it was a deal breaker
He had weekend being infinite with you and only AFTER then told you he was still inviting this random holiday woman and her child

He's a cheater there's no question

Drop him sharpish as you can't trust a word he says

Tiani4 · 28/09/2022 19:54

Intimate not infinite!

Jellycatspyjamas · 28/09/2022 19:54

I feel if I say something he will say we are not compatible so I have to put up with this if I want the relationship to continue.

Regardless of whether it’s reasonable for you to be ok about it or not, you told him it was a dealbreaker for you. He did it anyway so if you mean it’s a dealbreaker the relationship is over - that’s the nature of a dealbreaker. You don’t have to put up with it, and honestly if you do he’ll know he can force your hand at any time because you’ll choose the relationship over your own boundaries.

catandcoffee · 28/09/2022 19:55

So he doesn't want to introduce you to his son but is happy to have a virtual stranger around his child ?

I know it's easy to say what you'll do, until you're in the actual situation , BUT this would really piss me off.

Hothammock · 28/09/2022 19:55

Tbh the fact he put it on you shows he doesn't have the necessary boundaries. If you really wanted to test him you could see if he would be happy with the same arrangement on your home. But is it really worth the effort when you know you would instinctively not agree to that anyway or even suggest it to someone else...

KeepOutingMyselfAnotherNameChange · 28/09/2022 19:57

That's his new gf

Pansypotter123 · 28/09/2022 19:58

I'd get an STI check too.

Suzi888 · 28/09/2022 19:59

ProudThrilledHappy · Today 19:29
He’s not ready for you to meet his child yet - understandable - but he’s okay with random woman he has known for a short time to stay in his house for several days?

It’s not the friendship that would bother me, but the hiding it despite knowing it would upset you.

^This

Even one night, to me is very odd on both sides. But set this aside, he’s shown you that your feelings don’t matter. I also think he may have lied to you, if it was only two nights would you have even found out it took place? Probably not.

Milkand2sugarsplease · 28/09/2022 19:59

Nope, not at all.

He asked your opinion then completely disregarded it.
He's happy to have another woman around his child but his child can't even know you exist.
He's willing to set aside days and nights for this woman but you have to have scraps when your schedules allow.
He takes you away for a shag and then tells you he's ignoring your opinion about her coming.

Nope. No thank you.

Doggiedoodoos · 28/09/2022 20:00

It is not normal and most people do not do it.

He would be gone and I would be getting an sti test.

Pixiedust1234 · 28/09/2022 20:02

He asked for your blessing, you said no. Not just no but dealbreaker no. He still allows the visit to happen. Now reread your own post. He wasn't going to tell you until it was too late. Hes stringing you along with no thought to you. Hes going to send you mad with these mind games. People pleasers only please themselves whilst pretending they aren't, they are generally twats.

SuperCamp · 28/09/2022 20:03

Well.

I can imagine having a good informal holiday friendship with a guy with a kid the same age as mine, in the midst of a wider family activity holiday.

I can’t imagine then suggesting to go and stay in his house, without the whole wider group present, unless there was already something going on or I wanted something to go on.

So….

Really sorry OP, but after 5 months ‘almost’ everything you want and need maybe doesn’t signal a keeper….and having single women to stay when you have said you are not comfortable makes it clear.

Very sorry, OP.

Throw him back in the sea and head for a new horizon.