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Reasons never to go into prostitution, the horrors of it and UKpunting Rant.

437 replies

Snowdust · 21/09/2022 16:14

I have seen many posts talking about working as a escort or sex worker and some of them being in a positive light and some women doing this while married or having a partner.

Well i wanted to write this not just as a rant for myself and to get it off my chest but to let other's know who might consider doing it that there is not that many positives to it. Quite a long detailed post but a necessary one.

I first started doing it 12 years ago and since i have come back the last 2 years i dont want to go into details of exact reasons of why i did it but i had my reasons. I want to give a honest account and hope not to be judged. People in my private life would never guess i do this i am not a typical stereotype nor do i have any addictions or have a husband or partner leeching off me. It was my decision and not taken lightly but there was reasons why i needed money this way.

When i first started it there was more money to earn and yes i earnt a good living for a while and put money away but it did come with it's problems and dealing with some nasty men is one of them. I am a private person and do this in secret only a few trusted people know the rest do not.

Since being back on a short term basis it has definately become much much tougher to bare. I work independently from adultwork website and work from hotels or apartments. Some days you earn ok other days not so good. The market is over run with many sex workers and you are played against each other by the men.

The men that book us there is probably only around 10 to 15% of what i would call decent men. When i say decent i mean ones that do not smell like a sewer or demand to do anything they want and get as much in the time as there minutes give them.

There is so many women now offering unprotected services not just oral but even bareback, some of these women will do anything like Rimming, letting men film them, letting men face choke them and swallowing lots of mens fluids and so on and this seems to be popular and what a lot of men want. Some prices are so cheap at 40 or 50 pounds for these 15 minute quickies, it's just awful. So much desperation out there.

I try to make my profile look not as sexually graphic and i do not offer a lot of these things required but even then you still get men trying it on and getting pissed off if you do not do exactly what they want. They seem to have this mind set if one woman has done something more full throttle or hardcore that we all should otherwise we are ripping them off.

Before you even get a client in the door you have to screen the many phone calls and texts. So many of these calls are not even paying clients, probably only about 40% of men calling are actual clients that visit women and pay the rest they are men that just get off on pretending they will book and want to talk dirty. You even have the nutters with anger issues that phone up wanting to start a argument so they can call you nasty names and threaten you. A lot of women will use safety apps to screen men who have many reports against them for either time wasting, no show bookings and pretending to be outside your road but there not even there they just get off on wasting your time. Then you have the dangerous reports where they have robbed women and attacked them, the ones that paid and tried to blackmail you after for a refund saying they will inform hotel after they had what they had off you, men that try removing the condom when having sex with you, men paying with a banking scam app where you do not even get paid, men that walk out on many women and insult you or pretend they left money in there car (a sick fetish where they have no intention to pay but get off on seeing a sex worker) and the horrible men from UK punting who use that site to harrass and blackmail for a better service. ( more about them at the end)

Then when you do get a client you hope he will be pleasant and at least not smell like the local sewer and pay up.

Now lets do percentages on clients.

Clean men who do not smell from there mouth, penis, bum, body. (After a shower)
20% i would say if that. Some men have no understanding that heavy breathing halitosis all over you is not in with the price or leaving skid marks on your towels and bedding then down below smelling of dried urine. There is not much embarrassment when you pull them up on it. A sorry that is not very genuine is what you get or just a Oh never realised.

Nice pleasant men who just want a nice time and respect that although they have paid they are not there to use you like a blow up doll and take advantage. I would say 15% possibly. I cannot say all men that visit are horrible vile people there is a few nice ones in there that treat you like a human but they are rare which is the sad point about this.

Married men that have zero respect for you and there wife. 80%. Yes you heard right. I don't like to see married men especially the type that boast about seeing lots of sex workers even hundreds and expect oral without a condom and even try to rub there bare penis on your lady bits and when you tell them not to they think you are ruining there fun and pull faces or keep asking. These are some of the married men that openly tell you they get regular sex with there wife but they want variety all the time some of these men have over 200 feedbacks on adultwork. They have no shame telling me all this as they must think i am just fine with this because what i do. No i take your money but think you are pond life for your lack of respect for your wife and women in general.

Horrible men that want to treat you like a submissive porn star even though that is not your advert. 50% i would say. Many when turned on change personality can even become spiteful gripping very hard, shoving your head down as hard as possible, pulling you around like a rag doll leaving finger bruises. When you tell some they might stop but you have killed the moment as they start going soft. What does that tell you? You also need to be on your guard that they will not try to stealth you because that does happen and when finished make sure you do not leave the client to get dressed while you are in bathroom as some will search for the money to take back.

Health risks. Well what can i say the more men you see the more risk some will have of catching STI's. Luckily i have not caught anything so far but i do not do so many of the risky sex acts but i know many women that have caught infections.

Now the dreaded UKpunting men. These lot are the worst of the worst not only no respect for sex workers but there whole intention is mostly abusing women and writing detailed reviews of a very private session all to make them feel good about themselves and the alpha male in charge. Lets make it clear this is not just any review site. It really is set up to take a lot from women and pay as little as possible. Normal review sites do not call women C*s or greedy bitches or low life whores because we dare charge them or put our prices up by £10, these lot do.

The men on there know exactly why most women do not want men from there booking them because a lot are dangerous they have form for blackmailing, harassing, stalking women and writing lies because a sex worker does not want to get face choked or have to french kiss them because they smell so bad and are so repulsive. They have also wrote personal details on the forum that has outed womens true identity. The previous owner used to have a thread aimed at getting verification photos taken from adultwork by accident of womens faces that were supposed to be hidden from the public but Adultwork had leaked that info by accident and UKpunting had software ready to grab these photos. Some women had contacted the owner at UK punting telling him to please remove my face photo as it was outed by accident on Adultwork and his response was no take me to court.

Ukpunting even had a thread on our safety app tools and telling dangerous clients how to get away with not showing up on it putting us in extra danger and so many on there have bad reports.

The website is really just there to fuel these mens ego's and fantasies by writing detailed reviews of what they do to us. They purposely try to disguise themselves by chaging times and dates because deep down they know they are predators. The most hypocritical thing is they expect discretion when it comes to them but they have no problem discussing every detail of what was said in the booking giving away personal info on general chit chst and discussing the slight bit of cellulite they might have seen or your body parts were not perfect enough.

If any man that stays on that site long enough it becomes obvious the majority of reviews and discussions are men that clearly are there to take advantage of us as much as possible. Decent men do not stay on that site and post reviews that cause us harm and danger they would leave. So these men are all guilty and as far as i am concerened they are happy to make our job harder and put us in bad situations. There is thousands of men on there and a lot married. They even come up with posts on how to get away with hiding it from there wives. I had one client once that told me his wife caught him and he swore on kids lives he would never do it again he told me he was back doing it again 6 weeks after this time using secretive sim and punting phone and planning his time visiting a lady by pretending to be working late and taken up a gym membership. These men have become too entitled and are only satisfied if the woman is literally selling her soul and giving the best performance of her life. Women are marked down if they have not taken enough inches down there throat or there eyes are not watering or there not gagging, this is how sick the website is and the men reviewing a lot of the time are some of the most repulsive to look at but there the least grateful, how does that even happen?

More alarming is the UKP men that do find a little young " hottie" age 18, 19, 0r 20 years of age that takes a great face f***g and throat pie as they call it the sad old men queue up to punt and review her, she gets quite busy all comparing notes and then she gives a few a STI infection there is hints mentioned it is her but within a few days that is old gossip they are all still all back there booking her and knowing she has a drug problem too, she is very unreliable keeps men waiting ages and her house is a dump but as long as they get there needs met they don't care and a lot of these are married. They knowingly take advantage of the fact she has a drug problem. This is the great UKpunting at there very best. They do not care if young girls have drug problems or are being pimped as long as what they pay gets them a dirty session that is all they care about. So many are just out right perverts 60 and 70 year old men booking 18 to 20 year old young women and never satisfied unless she delivers a oscar worthy performance.

With new laws data/right to be forgotten the online bill i have a feeling UKPunting could be in trouble at some point as there abuse of women is causing harm to so many.

I am making plans to leave the business and i cannot recommend this to anybody thinking of doing it. The only women it might suit are women that already like swinging, dogging and enjoy risky sex with strangers and will enjoy getting paid for something they already do.

The positives side of it that i will add are working when you want to and the hours you want, making more then minimum wage and coming across the small percentage of men that smell nice, behave nice and maybe that bring you a nice gift like chocolates, flowers, perfume or even tip you but this is rare i might add.

What i might add some sex workers do not do themselves or women any favours by writing such degrading filth on there advertising details of how graphic they will get on a booking and posting photos of there whole naked body parts fully exposed and photos and short clips of them taking a throat f Some of these older women have teenage kids and all there faces on show for the world to see. I feel deeply sorry for there kids as a parent exposing themselves in such a degrading way. If these women suddenly cannot do sex work anymore they have there face and body parts out there forever. Who would want to give these women a job in the real world if they know or find out about what they have done. Do they care if there kids get bullied or everybody finds out what there mum does? Obviously not.

There is women that work and there hubby is very cool with it, they say he is just open minded and knows it is only a job and he lets me make my own choices and very supportive. What they do not tell you some of these men do not work or only work part time and are sitting on there arses waiting for the money roll in while they play Russian roulette on what stranger might attack you or catching infections.

I Hope this post will help some women to decide if they really need or want to do this for money this is the reality of it.

OP posts:
tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 13:56

How do you suggest a trafficked teenage breaks this chain? Don't forget she's probably here illegally and no longer has her passport

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:14

picklemewalnuts · 13/03/2024 13:20

You’re the one claiming other people don’t know what rape is. So pointing that right back at you.

Yes, some sex workers got into it for the money- or dabble with it on the side. Those with options opt to stop when they can. The majority are trapped into it, and so it out of practical necessity.

You say break the chain with the women who you claim don’t need to do it. I say break it with the men who definitely don’t need to do it.

I won’t be replying- you have no empathy for people trapped in situations beyond their control. I imagine it helps you feel secure, that it could never happen to you or those you love.

You’re a bit contradictory actually- it’s scummy and vile, no one should want to do it, those who do are scummy and vile. The women who do it love it, get rich, and are really happy about it.

I think the men are scummy and vile, myself.

I think the sex workers and the men are vile. You stand corrected.

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:16

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 13:52

Those brave enough and strong enough and with the morality to stop will do so. I wish those women all the best with all my heart.

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Hang on you were calling these women evil and disease spreaders a moment ago but once they find the morality to leave you wish them well? Confused

If there is not path to redemption, then others wont seek it. Don't you believe in forgiveness?

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:23

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 13:53

How do they not have agency or choice?

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This alone shows you know nothing about the reality of sex work for most women.

Not a great answer.

If you start from the premise that sex workers do not have agency or choice then why bother supporting these people? Surely with that attitude, they are what they are and cannot be helped or hoped to change. I cant agree with that.

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:28

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 13:56

How do you suggest a trafficked teenage breaks this chain? Don't forget she's probably here illegally and no longer has her passport

If those are the only facts you provide, teenager, no passport, here illegally. How does that stop her seeking help?

I presume that should I say, "go to the authorities\womens refuge\charities" you will continue to strawman the argument and devise the worst case scenario imaginable.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 15:39

You are intent on demonising sex workers.

Talk of redemption and forgiveness? Wow Confused

Unless you are about to share details of how enthusiastically you also campaign/actively support help for these women I think I'll assume it's not so deep seated misogyny at play here as your attitudes are pretty awful.

Reallyreallyborednow · 13/03/2024 16:05

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:28

If those are the only facts you provide, teenager, no passport, here illegally. How does that stop her seeking help?

I presume that should I say, "go to the authorities\womens refuge\charities" you will continue to strawman the argument and devise the worst case scenario imaginable.

Do you also think women (and men) stay in abusive marriages/relationships because they enjoy it? Because surely if they didn’t they’d just leave?

do you think sexually abused children, trafficked children and child prostitutes are in it voluntarily? If they aren’t they could just tell a teacher couldn’t they?

do women who are killed by men choose the “rough sex” and only have themselves to blame?

do you believe coercive control and financial abuse is just a myth, an excuse for women/men for not leaving?

i hope you never fall from your ivory tower and experience the complete control one human being can exert over another.

Itsamthing · 14/03/2024 07:57

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 13/03/2024 15:39

You are intent on demonising sex workers.

Talk of redemption and forgiveness? Wow Confused

Unless you are about to share details of how enthusiastically you also campaign/actively support help for these women I think I'll assume it's not so deep seated misogyny at play here as your attitudes are pretty awful.

Don't forget the men, they are also just as repulsive to me. I save my charity and time for worthy causes. Not people who choose to engage in buying and selling sex to meet their wants.

Itsamthing · 14/03/2024 08:18

Reallyreallyborednow · 13/03/2024 16:05

Do you also think women (and men) stay in abusive marriages/relationships because they enjoy it? Because surely if they didn’t they’d just leave?

do you think sexually abused children, trafficked children and child prostitutes are in it voluntarily? If they aren’t they could just tell a teacher couldn’t they?

do women who are killed by men choose the “rough sex” and only have themselves to blame?

do you believe coercive control and financial abuse is just a myth, an excuse for women/men for not leaving?

i hope you never fall from your ivory tower and experience the complete control one human being can exert over another.

Sex work isn't a relationship, it's a way to make a living.

The vast majority of sex work is adults choosing to enter into sex work. They are volunteering every time they get paid to do what that means wants. Strawman arguement declined.

Why would anyone think a person who was killed by another would be to blame? Weird.

I have no doubt coersive control and financial abuse exist. I also believe free will exists.

If these women really wanted out they would do whatever they could to get out. Until they reach that stage they see sex work as the better option.

So you can stop picking the worst senarios imaginable, which represent a negligible portion of sex workers and focus on the real issue. The majority of women in sex work are there because they see it as a viable option for them because they like the money or whatever they get from it. It should be criminalised for the workers and punters alike.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:13

Itsamthing · 11/03/2024 21:10

I don't see a difference between sex workers and drug dealers. They are a net drain on society. Enabling degenerate behaviours, breaking families, spreading disease. It's heartbreaking. Save your compassion for society and the broke families. Not the sex workers and their punters. Two cheeks of the same ass. Surprising to see so many women are pro sex worker. I couldn't imagine a bigger ick.

Then you're spectacularly ignorant.

Most sex workers don't do it entirely by free choice.

Many are trafficked or gang-run immigrants, some are drug addicts.

You're a lucky person with full opportunities in this country; to be able to sit on high and judge poor immigrant women with little to no english and who have pimps whose interest its not on to let them go and work in Tesco.

Your views are truly disgraceful, you should ashamed of yourself.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:16

How does that stop her seeking help?

Are you really this obtuse?

They are run by gangs and pimps .... Do you think those guys let them easily seek help? Do you think they're aren't coerced re their documents, their income, their family back home etc

Do you think those guys willingly, easily let go of their money makers??

Do you think they don't have physical and mental and cultural ways of keeping them in place and manipulating them?

Beyond naive.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:20

Itsamthing · 13/03/2024 14:23

Not a great answer.

If you start from the premise that sex workers do not have agency or choice then why bother supporting these people? Surely with that attitude, they are what they are and cannot be helped or hoped to change. I cant agree with that.

That's not what she's said.

Are you being purposefully obtuse or do you really not understand things to such a degree? Everything is very black and white and over simplistic and extreme with you, isn't it?

You sound extremely prejudiced and there's probably no point trying to educate or reason with someone like you.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:21

Reallyreallyborednow · 13/03/2024 16:05

Do you also think women (and men) stay in abusive marriages/relationships because they enjoy it? Because surely if they didn’t they’d just leave?

do you think sexually abused children, trafficked children and child prostitutes are in it voluntarily? If they aren’t they could just tell a teacher couldn’t they?

do women who are killed by men choose the “rough sex” and only have themselves to blame?

do you believe coercive control and financial abuse is just a myth, an excuse for women/men for not leaving?

i hope you never fall from your ivory tower and experience the complete control one human being can exert over another.

Excellent points.

But it's "pearls to swine" with that poster, I'm afraid.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:24

Those brave enough and strong enough and with the morality to stop will do so.

Were the young sex workers murdered by the Ipswich murderer going to beat their heroin addiction by being brave and strong and having morality??

How often do you think people (successfully, long term) beat heroin addiction?

You live in cloud cuckoo land.

I'm also getting fundamentalist religious vibes from you. Never a good sign.

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:25

The vast majority of sex work is adults choosing to enter into sex work

Where's your data??

The sex industry is permeated by deprivation, disadvantage, vulnerability, addiction, coercion, exploitation ..... On every country, in every form. Immigrant women without a UK education are vastly overrepresented ij the sex industry. That is the case in the UK, and in the brothels in Germany, The Netherlands, Portugal etc.

You are one of the most ignorant posters i've encountered on this site.

Janiie · 14/03/2024 10:50

God, that uk punting site is a horror to behold. Full of sad inadequate arseholes rating women, from their bodies to their performances. They seem to think the women are enjoying being pawed by these disgusting individuals.

I know sex work is as old as time but to actually see the delusions of these 'punters' on a chat forum as if they're rating a purchase from amazon is quite shocking. I bet 100% of them are absolutely inadequate in every area of their lives.

SheepAndSword · 14/03/2024 10:56

Most people just want more regulation to keep women safe.

In the city where I used to live there was a circulating van for referral to services, condoms, coffee etc.

tellmewhenthespaceshiplandscoz · 14/03/2024 13:36

Honestly everyone I don't even think this person is posting in good faith.

KrushedIvy · 14/03/2024 13:58

I've read the post and I think a lot of men divide women into whores and angels . That's going by my own experiences too . They will also demonise a woman to justify their actions.

KrushedIvy · 14/03/2024 14:10

Georgeskitchen · 21/09/2022 19:28

Wow
And yes there are people who will glamorise prostitution, oh sorry sex work we must call it now.
Every young woman thinking of getting into this should read your post OP!!

This .

Snowdust · 14/03/2024 15:32

Xenoi24 · 14/03/2024 10:24

Those brave enough and strong enough and with the morality to stop will do so.

Were the young sex workers murdered by the Ipswich murderer going to beat their heroin addiction by being brave and strong and having morality??

How often do you think people (successfully, long term) beat heroin addiction?

You live in cloud cuckoo land.

I'm also getting fundamentalist religious vibes from you. Never a good sign.

Edited

I instantly thought of dangerous religious views at play like a bad horror movie where we need to be exposed of, to cleanse our souls.

I understand totally why people will be against this type of work and what i posted was to deter people that thought it was a good way to make quick money and if anyone has any other options then i would choose that rather than this type of way to make money.

But evil to me is people that abuse children, animals and murder people etc. Comparing sex workers in this way is just wrong.

OP posts:
Buildingthefuture · 14/03/2024 16:57

Having worked with a charity that supports street based sex workers, it’s clear to me that @Itsamthing is confusing “evil” with “exploited”. These women (and some men) were in no way “evil”. They had been massively damaged by life. And, because I’m not a total asshole, I could see how, with a different set of circumstances, that could easily be me.
If no men thought they could “buy” consent (and let’s be clear, it is ALWAYS men, there are no brothels for women to go to) then the sex trade would die out.
Any man who has sex with a prostitute then posts a review on her/him, like she/he is something off bloody Amazon? He is, in my opinion, an evil person, who views other people, who actually have just as much value as him, as a commodity, to be bought and sold. He, as a man and person, has no value to society.

kkloo · 14/03/2024 19:34

Janiie · 14/03/2024 10:50

God, that uk punting site is a horror to behold. Full of sad inadequate arseholes rating women, from their bodies to their performances. They seem to think the women are enjoying being pawed by these disgusting individuals.

I know sex work is as old as time but to actually see the delusions of these 'punters' on a chat forum as if they're rating a purchase from amazon is quite shocking. I bet 100% of them are absolutely inadequate in every area of their lives.

I saw one where a man said the prostitute was trying to go for it without a condom and that he didn't ask for a certain act, I think to cum in her mouth but she went for it anyway.

And another 'punter' replied and said that any act that is non consensual is assault or attempted assault and said he hoped the man was ok and was able to take some time to come to terms with what happened.

Janiie · 14/03/2024 19:41

'And another 'punter' replied'

They're pathetic aren't they all very proud of their 'punting'. There's a thread up about how to hide clues when they 'go punting'. Like burner phones etc. Hey heres an idea you inadequate slimeballs why not try and act like real men and try a relationship. Ugh the minimising is sick, they're all so very proud of themselves ignoring the embarrassing fact that they have to pay to see a naked woman and how said naked woman will be cringing from start to finish.

Xenoi24 · 15/03/2024 17:36

Hey heres an idea you inadequate slimeballs why not try and act like real men and try a relationship.

Most of them are in relationships.

But they want sex with more than one woman/a variety of women. They don't have the game to pull women to cheat with, even if they did, they know they'd get caught more easily in affairs than using sex workers, and they convince themselves that it's not real cheating because it's not an affair.

Ive also seen a punter say very clearly that he does it to have sex with women he couldn't pull "in real life" and he imagines that's the case for many men.