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Reasons never to go into prostitution, the horrors of it and UKpunting Rant.

437 replies

Snowdust · 21/09/2022 16:14

I have seen many posts talking about working as a escort or sex worker and some of them being in a positive light and some women doing this while married or having a partner.

Well i wanted to write this not just as a rant for myself and to get it off my chest but to let other's know who might consider doing it that there is not that many positives to it. Quite a long detailed post but a necessary one.

I first started doing it 12 years ago and since i have come back the last 2 years i dont want to go into details of exact reasons of why i did it but i had my reasons. I want to give a honest account and hope not to be judged. People in my private life would never guess i do this i am not a typical stereotype nor do i have any addictions or have a husband or partner leeching off me. It was my decision and not taken lightly but there was reasons why i needed money this way.

When i first started it there was more money to earn and yes i earnt a good living for a while and put money away but it did come with it's problems and dealing with some nasty men is one of them. I am a private person and do this in secret only a few trusted people know the rest do not.

Since being back on a short term basis it has definately become much much tougher to bare. I work independently from adultwork website and work from hotels or apartments. Some days you earn ok other days not so good. The market is over run with many sex workers and you are played against each other by the men.

The men that book us there is probably only around 10 to 15% of what i would call decent men. When i say decent i mean ones that do not smell like a sewer or demand to do anything they want and get as much in the time as there minutes give them.

There is so many women now offering unprotected services not just oral but even bareback, some of these women will do anything like Rimming, letting men film them, letting men face choke them and swallowing lots of mens fluids and so on and this seems to be popular and what a lot of men want. Some prices are so cheap at 40 or 50 pounds for these 15 minute quickies, it's just awful. So much desperation out there.

I try to make my profile look not as sexually graphic and i do not offer a lot of these things required but even then you still get men trying it on and getting pissed off if you do not do exactly what they want. They seem to have this mind set if one woman has done something more full throttle or hardcore that we all should otherwise we are ripping them off.

Before you even get a client in the door you have to screen the many phone calls and texts. So many of these calls are not even paying clients, probably only about 40% of men calling are actual clients that visit women and pay the rest they are men that just get off on pretending they will book and want to talk dirty. You even have the nutters with anger issues that phone up wanting to start a argument so they can call you nasty names and threaten you. A lot of women will use safety apps to screen men who have many reports against them for either time wasting, no show bookings and pretending to be outside your road but there not even there they just get off on wasting your time. Then you have the dangerous reports where they have robbed women and attacked them, the ones that paid and tried to blackmail you after for a refund saying they will inform hotel after they had what they had off you, men that try removing the condom when having sex with you, men paying with a banking scam app where you do not even get paid, men that walk out on many women and insult you or pretend they left money in there car (a sick fetish where they have no intention to pay but get off on seeing a sex worker) and the horrible men from UK punting who use that site to harrass and blackmail for a better service. ( more about them at the end)

Then when you do get a client you hope he will be pleasant and at least not smell like the local sewer and pay up.

Now lets do percentages on clients.

Clean men who do not smell from there mouth, penis, bum, body. (After a shower)
20% i would say if that. Some men have no understanding that heavy breathing halitosis all over you is not in with the price or leaving skid marks on your towels and bedding then down below smelling of dried urine. There is not much embarrassment when you pull them up on it. A sorry that is not very genuine is what you get or just a Oh never realised.

Nice pleasant men who just want a nice time and respect that although they have paid they are not there to use you like a blow up doll and take advantage. I would say 15% possibly. I cannot say all men that visit are horrible vile people there is a few nice ones in there that treat you like a human but they are rare which is the sad point about this.

Married men that have zero respect for you and there wife. 80%. Yes you heard right. I don't like to see married men especially the type that boast about seeing lots of sex workers even hundreds and expect oral without a condom and even try to rub there bare penis on your lady bits and when you tell them not to they think you are ruining there fun and pull faces or keep asking. These are some of the married men that openly tell you they get regular sex with there wife but they want variety all the time some of these men have over 200 feedbacks on adultwork. They have no shame telling me all this as they must think i am just fine with this because what i do. No i take your money but think you are pond life for your lack of respect for your wife and women in general.

Horrible men that want to treat you like a submissive porn star even though that is not your advert. 50% i would say. Many when turned on change personality can even become spiteful gripping very hard, shoving your head down as hard as possible, pulling you around like a rag doll leaving finger bruises. When you tell some they might stop but you have killed the moment as they start going soft. What does that tell you? You also need to be on your guard that they will not try to stealth you because that does happen and when finished make sure you do not leave the client to get dressed while you are in bathroom as some will search for the money to take back.

Health risks. Well what can i say the more men you see the more risk some will have of catching STI's. Luckily i have not caught anything so far but i do not do so many of the risky sex acts but i know many women that have caught infections.

Now the dreaded UKpunting men. These lot are the worst of the worst not only no respect for sex workers but there whole intention is mostly abusing women and writing detailed reviews of a very private session all to make them feel good about themselves and the alpha male in charge. Lets make it clear this is not just any review site. It really is set up to take a lot from women and pay as little as possible. Normal review sites do not call women C*s or greedy bitches or low life whores because we dare charge them or put our prices up by £10, these lot do.

The men on there know exactly why most women do not want men from there booking them because a lot are dangerous they have form for blackmailing, harassing, stalking women and writing lies because a sex worker does not want to get face choked or have to french kiss them because they smell so bad and are so repulsive. They have also wrote personal details on the forum that has outed womens true identity. The previous owner used to have a thread aimed at getting verification photos taken from adultwork by accident of womens faces that were supposed to be hidden from the public but Adultwork had leaked that info by accident and UKpunting had software ready to grab these photos. Some women had contacted the owner at UK punting telling him to please remove my face photo as it was outed by accident on Adultwork and his response was no take me to court.

Ukpunting even had a thread on our safety app tools and telling dangerous clients how to get away with not showing up on it putting us in extra danger and so many on there have bad reports.

The website is really just there to fuel these mens ego's and fantasies by writing detailed reviews of what they do to us. They purposely try to disguise themselves by chaging times and dates because deep down they know they are predators. The most hypocritical thing is they expect discretion when it comes to them but they have no problem discussing every detail of what was said in the booking giving away personal info on general chit chst and discussing the slight bit of cellulite they might have seen or your body parts were not perfect enough.

If any man that stays on that site long enough it becomes obvious the majority of reviews and discussions are men that clearly are there to take advantage of us as much as possible. Decent men do not stay on that site and post reviews that cause us harm and danger they would leave. So these men are all guilty and as far as i am concerened they are happy to make our job harder and put us in bad situations. There is thousands of men on there and a lot married. They even come up with posts on how to get away with hiding it from there wives. I had one client once that told me his wife caught him and he swore on kids lives he would never do it again he told me he was back doing it again 6 weeks after this time using secretive sim and punting phone and planning his time visiting a lady by pretending to be working late and taken up a gym membership. These men have become too entitled and are only satisfied if the woman is literally selling her soul and giving the best performance of her life. Women are marked down if they have not taken enough inches down there throat or there eyes are not watering or there not gagging, this is how sick the website is and the men reviewing a lot of the time are some of the most repulsive to look at but there the least grateful, how does that even happen?

More alarming is the UKP men that do find a little young " hottie" age 18, 19, 0r 20 years of age that takes a great face f***g and throat pie as they call it the sad old men queue up to punt and review her, she gets quite busy all comparing notes and then she gives a few a STI infection there is hints mentioned it is her but within a few days that is old gossip they are all still all back there booking her and knowing she has a drug problem too, she is very unreliable keeps men waiting ages and her house is a dump but as long as they get there needs met they don't care and a lot of these are married. They knowingly take advantage of the fact she has a drug problem. This is the great UKpunting at there very best. They do not care if young girls have drug problems or are being pimped as long as what they pay gets them a dirty session that is all they care about. So many are just out right perverts 60 and 70 year old men booking 18 to 20 year old young women and never satisfied unless she delivers a oscar worthy performance.

With new laws data/right to be forgotten the online bill i have a feeling UKPunting could be in trouble at some point as there abuse of women is causing harm to so many.

I am making plans to leave the business and i cannot recommend this to anybody thinking of doing it. The only women it might suit are women that already like swinging, dogging and enjoy risky sex with strangers and will enjoy getting paid for something they already do.

The positives side of it that i will add are working when you want to and the hours you want, making more then minimum wage and coming across the small percentage of men that smell nice, behave nice and maybe that bring you a nice gift like chocolates, flowers, perfume or even tip you but this is rare i might add.

What i might add some sex workers do not do themselves or women any favours by writing such degrading filth on there advertising details of how graphic they will get on a booking and posting photos of there whole naked body parts fully exposed and photos and short clips of them taking a throat f Some of these older women have teenage kids and all there faces on show for the world to see. I feel deeply sorry for there kids as a parent exposing themselves in such a degrading way. If these women suddenly cannot do sex work anymore they have there face and body parts out there forever. Who would want to give these women a job in the real world if they know or find out about what they have done. Do they care if there kids get bullied or everybody finds out what there mum does? Obviously not.

There is women that work and there hubby is very cool with it, they say he is just open minded and knows it is only a job and he lets me make my own choices and very supportive. What they do not tell you some of these men do not work or only work part time and are sitting on there arses waiting for the money roll in while they play Russian roulette on what stranger might attack you or catching infections.

I Hope this post will help some women to decide if they really need or want to do this for money this is the reality of it.

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forgotoldusername · 26/09/2022 13:50

@Snowdust I admire you so much to come on here and warn more gullible people. I wish you the absolute best. I don't know what qualifications you have but I hope life now is only kind to you and you find an amazing job where you never need to humiliate yourself. As for Sandra doing this for 20 years and being proud of it and promoting it? I'm speechless. @Sandra1984 can you please bore off now and let @Snowdust's message sink in? We understand you love selling your body to any sort of men, us women with dignity find it disgusting and humiliating and are thankful we never ever have to do it. Please just go away now

Sandra1984 · 26/09/2022 13:59

Snowdust · 26/09/2022 13:36

Sandra thank you for your opinion. Let me make this clear for you. You are right you do not know my situation. I have made it clear not every client i see i dislike them some i have no problem with.

My post was not about help me get out of prostitution as i am a victim!!! I am making my plans to leave and am already half way through paying off debt and saving so i will be out as soon as i can.

My post was not for you Sandra as you obviously enjoy selling your body for 20 years and if you like it that is fine and i wish you all the best for another 10 years.

Please
read my original post carefully Sandra it's to help any vulnerable women thinking of doing this thinking they will meet all nice men and earn good money and all things will go great.

For the women that love sex with strangers and love the job, being self employed and all the other amazing benefits the post is not really meant for you or to change your mind to stop doing it. If you like it i would never tell you to stop as i believe in free choice with our bodies.

For me as a woman i don't really feel badly damaged as i am a strong woman and am making my plans to leave as it is not for me long term.

As i will repeat again my experiences on my first post is to help other's see what can happen if they have no idea of what paid sex work can be like and they only see the posts you and a few other's have promoted. Women need to see the bad side too to decide if they really will enter this line of work.

I also will point out i knew one woman that came into it as she saw posts saying how good it is and clients are lovely and can earn good money. She came into it got taken advantaged off, abused by reviews online (Ukpunting) she was a weak young woman of 22 years of age with a small child, had trouble saying no and ended up leaving with mental health issues and could not look at men the same.

Please look at my post for what it is to help the women that need the full accurate picture. My experience is not unusual at all.

I hope you pay of your debt and move on to greener pastures OP. this job is not for you. You shouldn’t be putting money over mental health. Ever. We both had different experiences, both valid, both different, and that’s Ok.

Snowdust · 26/09/2022 14:40

Sandra1984 · 26/09/2022 13:59

I hope you pay of your debt and move on to greener pastures OP. this job is not for you. You shouldn’t be putting money over mental health. Ever. We both had different experiences, both valid, both different, and that’s Ok.

Sandra i think you should mean " the job is not for you while there is misogynist bully men that book us"

As i already said some of the men i do not mind seeing if they behave and my mental health is fine with them, although i do not want to see even the well behaved men forever as i want to get back into a normal working society where i can be honest about my job and talk about it. I had some bad health problems that resulted in me losing jobs and a self employed business debt that resulted in huge debts.

Please don't turn it on to me. It's the bad misogynist men that abuse women that make this job a bad descision for any vulnerable women entering this line of work.

If you deep down love this job then i genuniely support your freedom to do this and stay doing this but i do think some women who have done this 20 or 30 years would have a hard time adjusting in the real world of jobs and explaining what they have done for 20 years plus.

I know of some ladies that have become obsessed with the money they work 7 to 11 days with no break in hotels as there greed of competing with other ladies and scoring points of who earnt more money is also a huge factor. Some women have become like zombies.

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Sandra1984 · 26/09/2022 16:00

@Snowdust If you deep down love this job then i genuniely support your freedom to do this and stay doing this.

I don't deep down love this job, I'm just happy with it and it pays my bills. I've had a very different experience from you. My point is that you shouldn't need to so something that you despise so much and jeopardises your mental health because of money. With all my due respects but this thread reminds me a bit of those "I am married to an awful rich man who treats me horrible but I stay married because of the money and now I need to warn younger women not to do the same as me, meanwhile I'm still living in a mansion as I put up with the abuse". You should not put up with abuse in exchange for money and there's other ways of paying of debt that don't involve selling your body OP. Had you stated you were fine doing sex work I would never told you not to do it but as you seem to be deeply traumatised by it I strongly recommend you to stop.

Snowdust · 26/09/2022 16:26

Sandra1984 · 26/09/2022 16:00

@Snowdust If you deep down love this job then i genuniely support your freedom to do this and stay doing this.

I don't deep down love this job, I'm just happy with it and it pays my bills. I've had a very different experience from you. My point is that you shouldn't need to so something that you despise so much and jeopardises your mental health because of money. With all my due respects but this thread reminds me a bit of those "I am married to an awful rich man who treats me horrible but I stay married because of the money and now I need to warn younger women not to do the same as me, meanwhile I'm still living in a mansion as I put up with the abuse". You should not put up with abuse in exchange for money and there's other ways of paying of debt that don't involve selling your body OP. Had you stated you were fine doing sex work I would never told you not to do it but as you seem to be deeply traumatised by it I strongly recommend you to stop.

Sandra i am not deeply traumatised by it as i am a very strong woman. I am calling out how many misogynist men are out there from Ukpunting taking advantage of women and new women entering this need to be made aware of.

Please stop making it about me or you. The post is to help other more vulnerable women to help make there choice if they are thinking of this avenue especially if they are already vulnerable as you need a thick skin to cope in this line of work. To make another point Sandra i do not put up with there abuse and anyone taking liberties with me i have asked a few to leave and i would never see many again after an appointment if they were badly behaved, smelly or bad attitude.

Please Stop turning this into a personal attack on me in a patronising way ( i see what you are doing and it is not helpful) as i must be too weak or not screening right etc.

You have made your point Sandra many times and i already said i have no problem with your different experiences but please lets focus on vulnerable women for who the post is meant for and the terrible men who do take advantage of vulnerable women.

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vickix · 26/11/2022 05:35

@Snowdust no judgement here. Men are pigs. Are you safe at work? Feel free to message me directly.... Women have to stick together.....

Jayne700 · 26/11/2022 06:58

Hi everyone - my first post so please be gentle with me !
I am 45 now but was involved in sex work for about 10 years on and off - I am not involved anymore.
I have very mixed feelings about what I did but the hardest thing now is that I have a great new partner who knows nothing of my past - nor will he ever hopefully but the fact that I have to lie constantly about it and the fear of him finding out is a constant stress
So my advice to anyone is to think very very carefully about the consequences of any decision you make

Munchieslittleslipper · 26/11/2022 09:06

Old enough to be a zombie?
Shaking my head at the use of the term sex 'work'. What a sad state of affairs in a supposedly civilised society.

Jayne700 · 26/11/2022 13:22

Sorry - I was just using the term most people have used on these threads
I am not naive enough to think that I was only an "Escort" or "Sex worker" therefore I was different and it wasn't so bad
Yes I worked in brothels so therefore that does make me an ex prostitute ( whore or hooker) whatever term you wish to call it
Sorry for implying otherwise xx

AbsolutePixels · 26/11/2022 17:33

Weird that @strawberriesonthemoon found the original post 'inspiring'.

Also this, from the same poster:
This thread makes it very apparent that some people just have a problem with women sexuality, full stop. That's what you actually dislike isn't it.

I've never come across a woman whose sexual turn-ons included shitty arsecracks, days-old smegma, or halitosis, but then I don't have a PhD in Pimpology.

Jayne700 · 27/11/2022 10:15

I am so grateful to this thread - i suppose in a way reading the other stories is in some kind of way therapy for me
I am sure my story is different but not unique
Basically I got married very young and had 2 lovely children ( they still are the most important thing to me)
Got to my mid thirties and things were fantastic with the 4 of us
Then my hubby was involved in a serious car accident - broke both legs and was off work for 12 months
Although he had income protection insurance it was no where near enough and after 6 months we were in a financial mess
I was working part time in a well paid job and took on another job which was far less money
The problem was that these 2 jobs meant I was away from the home for long hours and therefore didn't have the time or energy to devote to my children or to helping my husband recover
In addition we were still about £2k short a month from what we needed
I was having a coffee with a mate once and explaining the money worries when she said jokingly " Why don't you go on the game ?"
Anyway that put the idea in my head and I had a look online
I then talked about it with hubby - explaining that it would only be for 6 months
To be fair to him he was absolutely emotionally destroyed and furious that I had even suggested it to him - TBH I think something died in our relationship that day
We argued about it every day for weeks

Nevertheless I can be a bit single minded and jacked the other part time job in and went to work in a local brothel - for some reason I felt that it was the right thing to do because I didn't want to lose our lovely home and wanted the best for our children and this seemed the only way I could do this
Mentally I seemed to cope ok - the hardest thing were worrying that some guy would come in who knew me - but they did have CCTV so from the girls room I could see who had come in - fortunately no one I knew did
Another thing that was hard was when a group of lads would come in and you had to go out to reception and "introduce" yourself just dressed in a bra and knickers - you knew they weren't going to book anyone and had just come in for a perv
Even single guys could be hard because they would say things like " Do you swallow ?" or "Do you take it up the arse ?"

There wasn't a day go by during the next few months when hubby didn't say " You can stop now -it's killing me" but I carried on because I felt the money was the most important thing
After 8 months hubby fully recovered and went back to work and I stopped but things were never the same between us
I had it in my head that I had made a massive sacrifice for us but he ( quite rightly I suppose looking back) had betrayed him
He said he would have preferred to lose the house and everything as long as we could stay together and I hadn't done what I did
Eventually we split up - luckily the children were almost adults and to this day don't know what caused the breakdown in our relationship

Anyway I moved to a different town to start again - I was able to transfer with my normal part time job but needless to say money was tight
It was all to easy to phone up a local brothel and start working again
I guess this time around I felt more comfortable mentally as I was no longer "cheating on hubby" - We did attempt a reconciliation but when he found out I had gone back into prostitution he said that was the final nail in the coffin for him
So when I realised we were over it kind of hardened me a bit - so instead of wanting the money for him and the children I was doing it just for me and set out to make as much as I could
Mentally I was fine but physically it was draining the life and soul out of me
I would work 3 days a week in my normal job and then do another 2 or 3 days in the brothel
Without being too graphic there is a certain "service " I would provide that most of the others girls wouldn't do ( I don't mean BB )that would earn me another £30 per booking and it meant it was busier - but some days I would end up doing it 8 or 9 times which as you can imagine left me quite sore for days afterwards - but I always foolishly convinced myself that it wasn't going to be forever and that I should "Make hay while the sun shines"
As others have said - most guys were quite nice and just wanted some female company but there were quite a few brutes

Anyway I eventually found a lovely man ( not through working there I must point out ) and stopped
Now I do have good days and bad days when I think back to what I did - but the stubborness in me always wins and I try to maintain that all I did was try my best for my family - even though it had catastrophic consequences

I hope you don't mind me posting this but I have been meaning to get this off my chest for quite some time
Nobody else knows - just me and ex hubby - we still keep in touch for the sake of our children but there is a massive barrier between us
I did get on well with some of the girls at the parlour and the receptionist - we kept in touch for a while when I left - the receptionist kept asking me to go back but when I met my new man I decided it would be safer and better to sever all links to that life I'd led
I still think I made the right decision at the time - as none of us have the benefit of hindsight - if I did have that then definitely not

Thanks for listening xx

Alcemeg · 27/11/2022 10:58

Jayne, I'm sorry you had such a tough life.

It's interesting how different cultures treat this sort of thing. My friend has a Thai partner who used to "work the bars", but she and her extended family seem to process this very differently, perhaps because career options are rather limited for village girls.

Options can be similarly limited in the UK, but selling your body is equated to selling your soul, and not just because of the soul-destroying aspects so vividly described on this thread.

I am just wondering why you didn't share your husband's view that anything would be better, including poverty? Why it didn't feel like a betrayal, to you? Did you experience some kind of childhood trauma that affected how you saw your own body and damaged your sense of autonomy and value? Or were you brought up to believe that money trumps all other considerations? I'm not having a go, I'm curious to unpick how you made this choice, not once but twice.

Jayne700 · 27/11/2022 13:17

Thanks Alcemeg
I don't really think I have had a tough life
Hubby and I were really happy until the accident
We were childhood sweethearts ! and I had a pretty idyllic childhood
Of course ultimately I made the choice - was it for money - yes - but it was more to do with trying to preserve the life we had rather the chasing a pot of gold
The hardest thing really is that when we tried a reconciliation ex hubby told me that he'd been online and seen the website of the parlour that I was now working at - he said it was easy enough to see that the photos were of me ( even though I didn't show my face )
He is not the sort of guy to ever normally look at things like that

Why did I go back ? - I don't know really
I guess deep down I knew that by doing so it was going to be the end of us but maybe subconsciously I knew that I had hurt him so much it was already over
Also after doing it for 8 months or so you kind of get used to it

honestly you do !

I was quite happy in my normal job - but I was on my own in a strange town so didn't have any friends locally - and just thought what the hell - I can go there a few days a week and walk away with £400 to £500 - I didn't waste it on a flashy lifestyle but gave most of it to the children and the rest I saved
I suppose I was desperate to spoil the kids to make up for the fact I wasn't there for them and this was the easiest way of getting the money to do that

I know loads of people on her won't understand that but it just the way I chose to do it - of course I had to lie to them about where the money was coming from so just told them I'd been promoted which was hard to do

Jayne700 · 27/11/2022 13:20

Sorry - not that it makes it any better but I meant £400 To £500 a day

Alcemeg · 27/11/2022 14:57

Glad you're happier now, @Jayne700, and have a lovely man in your life. And well done for saving some £££ when you were able to, which is more than a lot of us can say!

vickix · 27/11/2022 23:06

There should be no shame or judgement here. As I said previously, women have to stick together. We do what we can to make ends meet and pay the bills... Working girls/escorts aren't the problem. The problem are the seemingly legitimate masseuses offering "happy endings" for £15 or thereabouts.... THAT is the problem, imho.

OldFan · 28/11/2022 00:50

The problem are the seemingly legitimate masseuses offering "happy endings" for £15 or thereabouts.... THAT is the problem, imho.

@vickix Why do you see that as worse? Do you mean because maybe they're more likely to be a front for trafficking, or...?

In my area there are quite a lot of euphemistically-named but obvious brothels, which are ignored by the police, some of which have existed for decades.

vickix · 28/11/2022 01:00

@OldFan Imho - they are worse because they are more accessible. Advertising on FB or Gumtree etc Clientele can pay by card showing up on a statement as a legitimate premises... Most businesses that i have contacted say they have no idea that their employee or tenant is offering "extras".

When you say "brothel" how would you describe those premises?

vickix · 28/11/2022 01:05

Take this place for example: www.google.com/maps/place/Nannan+-+Beautician+near+you+-+Wecasa+Beauty/@51.4715309,-2.3311681,7z/data=!4m10!1m2!2m1!1snannan!3m6!1s0x4875e3f8c6daadcb:0xe43dbf0200a2ae16!8m2!3d51.3437671!4d-0.2691027!15sCgZuYW5uYW6SAQxiZWF1dHlfc2Fsb27gAQA!16s%2Fg%2F11sg80nfnp

Seemingly legit? Copy the phone number and enter it into google with the search term "ukpunting".... see what you can find.....

OldFan · 28/11/2022 01:16

I can't find them on Ukpunting.

But why is it any worse than any other prostitution? Ok they aren't making it 100% clear the 'extras' they offer. But a lot of prostitutes aren't 100% open about it.

I'm sure if a woman went in for a massage/beauty treatment or something they probably wouldn't ask her if she wanted the extras.

OldFan · 28/11/2022 01:17

Just spotted your other post. Ah ok. I bet most brothels don't tell their landlord they're a brothel, though.

AdamRyan · 28/11/2022 07:34

The problem are the seemingly legitimate masseuses offering "happy endings" for £15 or thereabouts.... THAT is the problem, imho.

Hmm. Why are those women not "doing what they need to make ends meet?" I can't see what you mean at all.

Snowdust · 28/11/2022 16:40

Munchieslittleslipper · 26/11/2022 09:06

Old enough to be a zombie?
Shaking my head at the use of the term sex 'work'. What a sad state of affairs in a supposedly civilised society.

The reason i have used the term " sex work" is because i have done sex to get paid and i have paid my taxes on this work also as the tax man does not discriminate about what job pays. Equally it is prostitution though so the word prostitute is fine too. People can use whatever term they wish to use.

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Snowdust · 28/11/2022 16:50

vickix · 27/11/2022 23:06

There should be no shame or judgement here. As I said previously, women have to stick together. We do what we can to make ends meet and pay the bills... Working girls/escorts aren't the problem. The problem are the seemingly legitimate masseuses offering "happy endings" for £15 or thereabouts.... THAT is the problem, imho.

£15 extra for a wank is a small amount of money i think i would prefer not to offer any extra's especially if i am already being paid just for a massage. I think this happens more so with the chinese/Thai massage operations and knowing the UKPunting abusers they go there purposely to take advantage and get it cheap. Then they go and review them to let every other abuser on there to go and take advantage or to try to get more then just a hand relief and they report back to get a round of applause to boost there ego.

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Jayne700 · 02/12/2022 06:43

I have thought long and hard about making this next post but I have spoken to other members and have been encouraged to do so
I have never thought of myself as judgemental but this seems as good a place as anywhere to warn others of the dangers of entering into this world

I apologise in advance for the graphic nature

I was new to this and very naive and above all too trusting - I had only been " working" about 5 weeks
I was with this guy, I thought he seemed quite decent put a condom on him and whilst we were having protected intercourse he asked me about anal sex
When I confirmed I was willing to do this he asked me to get on all fours which I did
Unbeknown to me , when I wasn't looking he had removed the condom and entered me bare !!
I only realised afterwards when I spotted the condom on the bed and when I checked he had ejaculated inside me !!
I went ballistic and started shouting at him -all he did was start laughing
My shouting resulted in the receptionist and another girl rushing into the room
He told them that I agreed to it !!!
All that happened was that he was asked to leave !!! - and I didn't even get my full fee
I now understand that this was technically rape but at the time I didn't take it any further for a number of reasons
Firstly we didn't know who he was - we didn't even have his phone number
Secondly at that time I was still at home with the family and the last thing I wanted was the police turning up there

To make matters worse he even posted a review which stated that I was willing to do "bareback anal " - this meant that for months afterwards I was being booked by creeps searching for girls who did that - it took ages to get it removed and it did put a lot of "normal" guys off seeing me

Fortunately all the tests came back negative but for months I was a a nervous wreck - after that I always guided them in with my hand to check they hadn't taken the condom off but I certainly learnt the lesson the hard way

Sorry for describing the gory details but if me posting this saves anyone from a similar experience even if they are not a "working girl" and in a "normal relationship" then I feel it is worth it

Love and hugs to you all
Jayne xx