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Relationship ended for no reason

253 replies

ChasingRainbows123 · 21/09/2022 10:02

Met a guy on OLD, dating for 8 months & everything going well.
We both suspended our profiles.
Messaged most days & saw each other most weekends.
He lives 40 mins away & he works away Mon - Fri & I have two young kids.
Previous weekend he offered to cook a meal for us at his house.
It was lovely, a great evening.
Messaged the following week as normal.
Didn't see him at the weekend as he had to work on the Saturday & my kids were with me.
Messaging ok & on the Sunday we arranged that he would come up to mine the following weekend. All arranged.
About 3 hours later he sends a message on facebook messenger where we chatted for no reason which said
"I'm done with this. A big part of my life will dissappear. I will survive"
That meant me obviously.
I read it & he had unfriended me & blocked me so I couldnt reply.
I tried to ring him as this was so out of character for him.
Worried that something was wrong I drove to his house.
I knocked on the door & stood on doorstep & asked if he was ok & he said yes he was going to bed as up at 4.30am for work.
I asked him why he blocked & unfriended me & he yelled & shouted at me waving his hands & said no I didn't I have been talking to my sister.
I said again is everything alright are you ok?
He shouted again just go or I'll ring the police & he started to put 9 into his phone so I came away.
I never heard from the police. But you dont block & unfriend someone your dating for no reason. Then threaten to ring police for no reason when someone checks up on you.
Is this narcissist behaviour or mental health issues.
I can't get it out of my head that I did something wrong to cause all of this.

OP posts:
Ineedtosleep79 · 13/01/2023 21:28

ChasingRainbows123 · 21/09/2022 11:49

Thanks for reply.
I'm doing ok.
Feel a bit hurt at the way things ended with no warning.
Then when I drove to his to check if he was ok & he started shouted & waving his hands at me. Shouting just go or I'll ring the police.
I was stood on doorstep & hes shouting that at someone who has taken time to check hes ok.
Thats why sometimes I think I was to blame in some way.

Should have let him call the police 😂 you could have quickly explained to them what happened then you all could look at him and ask again for explanation..

I'm sure they would think he was being unreasonable!

Sandra1984 · 13/01/2023 21:29

ChasingRainbows123 · 21/09/2022 14:20

Stupid me then for not seeing all the red flags

Yep, this guy had more red flags than a comunist convention from the very beginning, instead of telling him to fuck if the first time he dumped you or told you to fuck of you decided to overlook the red flags and continue seeing him. Big mistake. Expect a hoovering attempt once you go no contact. He sounds like a narcissist who is mentally unstable. If he tries to Hoover you again please don’t fall into it because it’s a toxic relationship and he sounds unhinged. For you own safety and sanity stay away from him.

ChasingRainbows123 · 13/01/2023 21:48

Yes I did overlook the red flags & continue to see him. Yes I know it was stupid & I should of walked away earlier.
At no point was he anywhere near my 2 kids or had any contact with them.
I was careful.
I have to protect them.
Been no contact since he did this 5 months ago.
Noticed the last few weekends when I have been out with kids. Have seen his car has been in village where I live as he is starting to visit his parents regular again. They live in same village.
He didnt see me. I tend to keep away from the village centre at weekends so I don't bump into him.
Yes he does sound unstable & unhinged.
He did a strange thing when he asked me out for a drink with him & his mother.
Looking back it was nasty.
He seriously wouldn't dream of coming back hoovering after all these months after what he did surely ?

OP posts:
Brrhitscold · 14/01/2023 00:16

ChasingRainbows123 · 14/10/2022 07:56

No one will ever understand the man's strange behaviour except. Hes a nasty unhinged nut job who will continue treating people like that & making them think they are the one at fault

There were a number of red flags you ignored or didn't spot , especially with his daughter. He was swearing and nasty when drunk and game playing saying goodbye and then fine.

He seems controlling and abusive , but please stop with the crazy, nut job and weirdo statements . Pretty offensive to people with mental health problems. Mental health doesn’t equate with abusive .

it seems you are now aware you ignored stuff and thought it was your fault and are now throwing around derogatory terms .
Reflect, look at what you ignored and move on .

ChasingRainbows123 · 14/01/2023 01:12

Sandra1984 · 13/01/2023 21:29

Yep, this guy had more red flags than a comunist convention from the very beginning, instead of telling him to fuck if the first time he dumped you or told you to fuck of you decided to overlook the red flags and continue seeing him. Big mistake. Expect a hoovering attempt once you go no contact. He sounds like a narcissist who is mentally unstable. If he tries to Hoover you again please don’t fall into it because it’s a toxic relationship and he sounds unhinged. For you own safety and sanity stay away from him.

Thankyou.
Yes your right.
Lot of red flags.
Easier being single on my own with my kids.
This dating is hard work when you meet people like that.
Its like a weight has been lifted now I have no contact.
Life is so much simpler

OP posts:
Nextlevelnonsense · 14/01/2023 18:17

Ah @ChasingRainbows123 - you need to stop asking yourself questions.
Let me try to reframe this.
(I had terrible boundaries, and successful therapy).

He didn't do anything wrong. He did everything exactly as he needed to do it, at that time. He did his best.
If you had his life experiences, and emotional capabilities; you would have done exactly the same.
There is the problem.

His best does not correspond with your self worth.
No matter what you did, his reactions and best effort would ultimately make you feel awful about yourself.
The relationship couldn't have worked.
It wasn't supposed to work. It was supposed to teach you something.

You're asking yourself what you did wrong. It's eroded your self worth.
If we sliced you in half, would there be a label saying 'here is @ChasingRainbows123 , who isn't worth better?'

Absolutely not. But for some reason you had previously felt that you should accept his odd cruel texts. You had tolerated him making you feel worthless.

There's a little voice inside you, that came from somewhere. That voice (which is you) is telling you that you're worthless.
You need to have a word with yourself about that voice.
Whatever has made you feel worthless needs to fuck off.
Otherwise that little voice will make you accept being devalued again.

What did you do wrong? Absolutely fuck all my lovely. You were concerned about someone you cared about.

You did exactly what you had to do, because of your life experiences and emotional capabilities.
You cared about him, and you had the tools to demonstrate that caring.
We can see that.

Unfortunately you didn't have the tools to value yourself enough. You didn't have appropriate boundaries to say:
'This behaviour is unpleasant and is making me unhappy. I deserve better that to engage in it'.

You're wondering why he did it. There's a really obvious answer to this conundrum.
YOU DON'T KNOW
Just actually read that again.
You don't know. Knowing would make absolutely no difference either.
He probably doesn't know.
None of us know.
You need to allow yourself to stop caring.

What we do know is that you need to take care of @ChasingRainbows123.
Take time, energy and emotions to love her.
She's worth so much more than tolerating rubbish behaviour.
Look at yourself in the mirror. Remind yourself that you're valuable, beautiful and strong. You are worthy of love and kindness.

Remind yourself that he couldn't provide those things. You gave him plenty of opportunities. But he couldn't.

He's not a bad person.
He's a person who isn't right for you. He cannot behave and communicate in a way to make you happy.
He's gone in his direction.
You've gone in your direction.

Life presents us with people and circumstances to demonstrate where we aren't free.

Just check in with yourself often.
Anything that makes you feel uncomfortable? Question those feelings.
Write them down.
When do you remember feeling like that before?
Was that your fault?
Why do you allow yourself to feel like it was?

Thinking about him is a complete waste of your time.

Start to unpick it.
All of the important answers are inside you.
Flowers

Nextlevelnonsense · 14/01/2023 18:18

Bloody hell. That was long.
Sorry to the TL:DR crew.

ChasingRainbows123 · 14/01/2023 18:53

Thankyou.
Yes that was long.
It put me in my place anyway

OP posts:
MuckyPlucky · 14/01/2023 22:36

Erm @Nextlevelnonsense was kindly trying to help and guide you! I don’t know where you got the idea they were ‘putting you in your place’?

Im not sure why this thread is still running with you saying the same thing and getting the same replies. It’s been quite a long time now. You need to put this to bed.

Cigarettesaftersex1 · 14/01/2023 23:36

MuckyPlucky · 14/01/2023 22:36

Erm @Nextlevelnonsense was kindly trying to help and guide you! I don’t know where you got the idea they were ‘putting you in your place’?

Im not sure why this thread is still running with you saying the same thing and getting the same replies. It’s been quite a long time now. You need to put this to bed.

Agreed, it's just the same thing on repeat

Sakura7 · 15/01/2023 00:26

MuckyPlucky · 14/01/2023 22:36

Erm @Nextlevelnonsense was kindly trying to help and guide you! I don’t know where you got the idea they were ‘putting you in your place’?

Im not sure why this thread is still running with you saying the same thing and getting the same replies. It’s been quite a long time now. You need to put this to bed.

This ^

That was actually a very kind and considerate post by @Nextlevelnonsense

OP it really is time to move on from this and stop giving this guy so much headspace.

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 02:12

Yes it was I know.
They were explaining things how they are.

OP posts:
RosaMoline · 15/01/2023 11:52

I can see where the OP is coming from.
it was a totally bewildering experience. I’d be the same to be honest - trying to make sense of it all. It defies logic.
OP. Look after yourself and surround yourself with good people. Lots of love ❤️

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 12:40

RosaMoline · 15/01/2023 11:52

I can see where the OP is coming from.
it was a totally bewildering experience. I’d be the same to be honest - trying to make sense of it all. It defies logic.
OP. Look after yourself and surround yourself with good people. Lots of love ❤️

Thankyou for your kind words.
Yes it was a bewildering experience.
Never experienced anything like that before.
It has taken a bit of understanding & realising that I wasn't to blame for his actions.
I kept my kids away from him & safe which is a good thing.
Yes it will be just me & my kids for a while now.
Not putting myself through that again with a man.

OP posts:
RosaMoline · 15/01/2023 13:02

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 12:40

Thankyou for your kind words.
Yes it was a bewildering experience.
Never experienced anything like that before.
It has taken a bit of understanding & realising that I wasn't to blame for his actions.
I kept my kids away from him & safe which is a good thing.
Yes it will be just me & my kids for a while now.
Not putting myself through that again with a man.

OP. I think sometimes I’m these situations, when you haven’t had closure, you have to create your own. Like I said, I don’t blame you for seeking answers. You’re still hurting. I’ve been there. I was treated appallingly by someone who love bombed me, but was using me to make his ex jealous. When she took the bait I was unceremoniously dumped. It took me a long time to get over that (by the way…this was a man in his late fifties who did that to me…how juvenile, eh?) anyway, three years down the line, that relationship went predictably tits up and he was back in contact with me. I cannot describe the pleasure I got from telling him to piss off.
You might be in that situation one day yourself when it’s all gone wrong with his latest supply. And you WILL be strong and tell him to piss off also. It’s a wonderful, satisfying feeling. Karma’s great.

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 13:25

Sorry to hear you have been through the same thing.
A man in his fifties. You would think he wouldn't be so juvenile.
The satisfaction you got when you told him where to go would be priceless.
Somehow I don't think this guy would try come back & get in touch wih me after what he did at the end.
It was a cowards way to end things.
Easier just to be honest.
How are you doing now. Did you go on to find happiness with someone.

OP posts:
RosaMoline · 15/01/2023 13:46

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 13:25

Sorry to hear you have been through the same thing.
A man in his fifties. You would think he wouldn't be so juvenile.
The satisfaction you got when you told him where to go would be priceless.
Somehow I don't think this guy would try come back & get in touch wih me after what he did at the end.
It was a cowards way to end things.
Easier just to be honest.
How are you doing now. Did you go on to find happiness with someone.

I haven’t. Been single since then. One or two near misses!
I’m 56 next month, and I’ve resigned myself to the fact that I may not ever meet someone else, but I’m ok with it. I’m very independent.
I do hope you find someone lovely who treats you right OP. He’s out there somewhere. But for now, you’re being sensible but staying single for a while.
Lots of Love xx

ChasingRainbows123 · 15/01/2023 16:32

Oh dear !
One or two near misses. Sounds like you have been lucky there.
Sounds like your quite happy there & very independent.
I'm independent too & think I'm better staying single. Just me & my two kids.
Some of the comments I've had on here about not seeing red flags. How I need to forget what happened with him & move forward. Easier said than done when your involved with a man like that.
Some comments were harsh & have made me realise that its easier staying single.

OP posts:
ChasingRainbows123 · 18/06/2023 18:51

Will someone give me a talking to so I can get refocused. Its like I have lost my mind today. Its been 10 months since all this with this guy. I have been on a couple of dates which didn't come to anything. Been bust with work & kids & doing ok. Today is a different story. Dont know if it's cause I lost my dog 4 weeks ago aged fourteen & half. Today is fathers day & I lost my dad 11 years ago. Today I passed my ex in his car on his way to his parents this morning. Never seen him all these months. Then when I came back from my shopping trip later this afternoon I passed him again in car on he's way back home. This has brought everything back to me the way he treated me & I started to think I miss what we had at the beginning when things were good before he messed me about. No I wouldn't take him back. I don't know if it's my emotions a bit all over the place. Can't believe I feel like this when I was doing really well & moving on.

OP posts:
Watchkeys · 18/06/2023 19:21

It's just a hiccup. You saw your ex, it sent you into a spin, you miss the good times. Totally normal, especially with everything else you've got going on.

Give yourself a break, take a few deep breaths, eat a bunch of Minstrels, watch a film, have a glass of wine, get some sleep. Your progress hasn't been erased, it's just a rough day.

ChasingRainbows123 · 18/06/2023 21:47

It has been a rough day alright
I was doing so well too.

OP posts:
ChasingRainbows123 · 09/09/2023 08:14

What a stupid woman I am.
Wish I had listened to you all on here.
Me & this guy got back in touch. Messaging every day. Met up a couple of times for a drink.
Never seen him since the weekend before bank holiday. He was going to meet up last Saturday afternoon. He messaged an hour later after arranging it. To say he had been called into work on nightshift. (Not sure I believed him).
Never bothered on the Sunday.
Messaged all week as normal.
Then yesterday he said he was in beer garden after work. I said that's nice.
What's happened weekend plans with us this week.
There's been none for 3 weeks
Well he went off it & said don't message me again. You will be blocked.
I'm not sure if he's been playing mind games or if he's unstable.

Why do I do this to myself ?

OP posts:
Watchkeys · 09/09/2023 09:19

Because you're willing to believe that you're a stupid woman. This leads you to over ride your common sense, because if you're just stupid, then your own common sense can just be disregarded.

Drop the self criticism. You are a person who has made some mistakes, just like everybody else. Nothing special about that.

ChasingRainbows123 · 09/09/2023 10:16

Yes I have made a mistake.
Should of listened to everyone on here when they told me to keep away from him.
Should never of believed him when he came back saying he regretted everything that happened. He was going to make an effort.
Only for him to do exactly the same thing to me again this time.

OP posts:
Sandra1984 · 09/09/2023 10:38

ChasingRainbows123 · 09/09/2023 10:16

Yes I have made a mistake.
Should of listened to everyone on here when they told me to keep away from him.
Should never of believed him when he came back saying he regretted everything that happened. He was going to make an effort.
Only for him to do exactly the same thing to me again this time.

Let me put it bluntly: you've been victim of narcissistic abuse. What you're writing is text book stuff 101. It totally messes up your head. You get dumped with no closure, which stops you from moving on. You try to take this guy out of your head. After a little while once you're moving on he pops up again his ugly head, tries to hoover you with love promises. A "mini love bombing phase" will occur, you fall for this crap. He doesn't love you, not one bit, he just wants to make sure he still has control over you, you fall hook,line and sinker for this manipulation. Once he sees he still has a hold of you f-ucks you over again and discards you. Then rinse and repeat after a while. This guy is like a drug because you never got closure from this break up. You believe that "next time" he will be kind, "realise his mistake", flash news: he won't. He will be hoovering and discarding you for the rest of his life, and you know the best part? You're not the only ex he's doing this to.

Narcissists are control freaks that don't know how to fully engage with you but can't fully disengage from you either. They're lonely, vulnerable, angry and unconfident creatures who desperately seek validation and to control others.

My advise would be to block block block, everywhere. Yes you may bump into him, yes you may see his car if he lives local. Don't engage for a second. Do not say "hi" to him" Nothing, nada. Once he sees you're no longer good supply he'll move on to his next victims. Be very glad once that happens. A huge toxic cloud will have lifted from your life..

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