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Dating Thread 232 - Loving Ourselves First

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SortingItOut · 21/08/2022 06:21

The Rules:

1.The first rule about the dating thread is don't talk about it with people you're dating.

  1. Develop a thick skin.
  2. Do not invest emotionally too soon.
  3. It's all BS until it actually happens.
  4. Trust your gut instinct.
  5. People vanishing, lying & being generally weird is not your fault.
  6. Know your worth.
  7. If it's not fun, stop.
  8. Loo update is mandatory.
10. No dating the thread. 11. Treat others as you'd like to be treated 12. Any relationship you have that could get ruined by having a conversation about your feelings, standards and/or expectations wasn't really stable enough to begin with 13. The things you choose to ignore/ tolerate now are the reasons you will break up in the future 14. OLD can get very time consuming. Keep doing other activities you enjoy.

Optional: Please give your irons (potential dates you are talking to) nicknames like Mr Scottish. Initials are allowed (Mr S) when you are an item.

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Mila14 · 27/08/2022 12:18

Daisysunset · 27/08/2022 12:12

@Mila14 He knows I like him; it's in my nature to be tactile and complimentary, I've said several times how important he is to me and how much I think of him, though not so much recently as I just wasn't getting anything back and felt silly.

Oh Daisy…why don’t you take a break from him and check other irons?? Or just take a bit of time to regroup with yourself and feel stronger…he’s not going to change tack I think

Slothmomma · 27/08/2022 12:24

@Thisisworsethananticpated I'm in a small town outside a large city but distance settings are 15 miles so fewer options unfortunately

Datingadvice · 27/08/2022 13:15

So I am going on a first date at some point this weekend. He seems so nice, gentle and friendly in his messages which is unusual. He is free all weekend, so I just need to get back to him with a time that suits my schedule. He gave me his surname so I could check him online. All good. He is a very nice looking, and solvent guy from what I can see - great job, career, close to his family etc. He has been online dating for 3-4 years which surprises me. He is great on paper - if he were that great, he would have been snapped up by now? He's mid 40s. Wants a wife and family. I can't help think there must be something wrong!

Slothmomma · 27/08/2022 13:30

@Datingadvice by that logic you're saying there must be something wrong with all of us singles on here 🤷‍♀️ I could have been snapped up over past 3 years but chose not to just settle - nothing wrong with me

Datingadvice · 27/08/2022 13:39

Slothmomma I believe it's different for women - we aren't as fortunate as men. Quality of women is much higher and men are spoilt for choice IMO. Especially in middle aged and when men are dating younger women etc.

Mila14 · 27/08/2022 13:46

Nothing wrong with that @Datingadvice …he may have dated someone in this time and it didn’t progress. You can ask for his dating history when you are ready for that. I always ask. He wants a wife and family so I think that is great 😊

Datingadvice · 27/08/2022 13:59

That's true Mila14 - I have been dating my whole life!

Daisysunset · 27/08/2022 14:48

I agree with @Datingadvice - I know there are exceptions for both, however I don't believe the men are as high quality as the women. Any decent man will be snapped up because we women know how difficult it is to find a decent one. Yet in my opinion men don't appreciate what they have and easily move on to the next.

I realise that I am at fault in not closing down emotionally unavailable men quickly, hence my awful history, however I'm not making them emotionally unavailable - it's just the way they are, and imo there's a lot of men out there who think they should say they want relationships but in reality just want sex.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 27/08/2022 14:52

Datingadvice · 27/08/2022 13:39

Slothmomma I believe it's different for women - we aren't as fortunate as men. Quality of women is much higher and men are spoilt for choice IMO. Especially in middle aged and when men are dating younger women etc.

As a man in his 50s, I would say, both of your statements do not really stand up to scrutiny. I was most not spoiled for choice, and the quality of (some) women is most certainly not that high

Daisysunset · 27/08/2022 14:57

Which is why I said there are exceptions for both.

I don't imagine for one second there are the same volume of men in their 50s working on themselves to be the best person they can be in relationships, reading books and agonising over what they've done wrong. Or seeking counselling to heal past trauma, or seeking guidance from friends.

So you may well be an exception @HowlongWillThisTakeNow and the fact you are on this thread asking for help and support and suggestions indicate to me that you are, however ime men like you are few and far between.

HowlongWillThisTakeNow · 27/08/2022 15:22

@Daisysunset
im going to have to disagree with you again, I’m an average man, living an average life in small rural market town about 30 miles from a small city. On OLD, this supposed big pool of quality women becomes very small once you filter on age, distance, hobbies etc., a very small pool indeed.

in a metropolitan area it might be different, but based on my experience, ( and that of some other men I have chatted to via this forum), OLD is pretty much a waste of time for most men ( was for me),but I have met someone IRL, and it’s great.

Daisysunset · 27/08/2022 15:40

How many average men are on this predominantly female forum asking for advice and support thought?

To me that indicates a higher lever of self awareness and a desire for a meaningful relationship. This doesn't correspond with my experience on OLD.

WeWantTheFinestWines · 27/08/2022 16:38

Hi all, so many new names on here! I remain off the apps until I get some time back for myself after the school holidays so nothing to report. Page marking for now and I'll catch up with what's been going on x

ButterflyOfShay · 27/08/2022 17:35

NervesOfCotton · 27/08/2022 10:43

Slothmomma I used to speak to somebody on here who 'Finished' Tinder every few days!
It probably does depend a lot on distance. I've got my distance set at 30 miles, also because of limited child free time, so my dating pool is teeny tiny!

Daisysunset Aww, that's a sweet thing to say! But you have your guard up so all goodSmile

Mila Ooh I love a sexy dream! Lovely to have a choice between 2. You go girlGrin

Haha was that me @NervesOfCotton 😂 I used to swipe through so quickly I think I could complete it in a day 😅

ButterflyOfShay · 27/08/2022 17:37

katmunchkin · 27/08/2022 11:06

How do I ask someone whether they're still actively on dating apps or seeing other people? We met about 3 months ago on Bumble and have been on 10 dates so far. Haven't slept together but had a fumble at his... I don't want to sleep with him if he's still seeing other people etc, but I really want to go to the next step.
Unfortunately I have the annoying personality trait that if there's a chance I may not like the answer, I'm too scared to ask the question, so I go round with my head in the sand! Had no inclinations he's seeing other people btw, I just want to know! There's also been no conversation as to where we are going, what are we etc, and after 3 months I'm starting to want to know!

@katmunchkin weird how he hasn’t asked you??

ButterflyOfShay · 27/08/2022 17:39

SortingItOut · 27/08/2022 12:00

Sorry for the lateness, was up at 5am and with my women's group at 6am for yoga and sea swim.

That sounds amazing sweet, how you feeling now?? 💕💕

NervesOfCotton · 27/08/2022 17:58

Hi Butterfly. Haha, I havn't been on Tinder but I think completing it in a day is something impressive, shows you have standardsSmile

Signoramarella · 27/08/2022 18:14

Haha Meno perma horn state, I love it! Yes I am mostly there too, christ, and not a cock in sight!

Yes from 2023 my ds will do Easter / Summer with exdh so that will be a massive relief.

I set my boundary at 30 miles too and swiped ' em all!

Mila14 · 27/08/2022 18:32

Signoramarella · 27/08/2022 18:14

Haha Meno perma horn state, I love it! Yes I am mostly there too, christ, and not a cock in sight!

Yes from 2023 my ds will do Easter / Summer with exdh so that will be a massive relief.

I set my boundary at 30 miles too and swiped ' em all!

😂😂😂😝 glad you get a good respite…bring on the cock!!

Thisisworsethananticpated · 27/08/2022 19:16

Signoramarella

yeah well I’m not sure if my state leads me to making good decisions a lot of the time !
in fact it doesn’t let’s be honest

I don’t mind rarely having periods though

Thisisworsethananticpated · 27/08/2022 19:16

Signoramarella

same , is your ex overseas ?

Daisysunset · 27/08/2022 19:22

NervesOfCotton · 27/08/2022 17:58

Hi Butterfly. Haha, I havn't been on Tinder but I think completing it in a day is something impressive, shows you have standardsSmile

Try living in the SW, you can complete it in about an hour...

Thisisworsethananticpated · 27/08/2022 19:23

ButterflyOfShay

how are you keeping over this bank holiday weekend ?

i actually hate bank holidays , always have !

ButterflyOfShay · 27/08/2022 20:30

I’m really good thanks for asking 🤍 had a long day out with a good pal yesterday and been on an art course today. Still no irons or anything at all kind of don’t even massively think about it anymore 😂

katmunchkin · 27/08/2022 22:50

Mila14 · 27/08/2022 11:26

@katmunchkin …3 months is a really good time. I’m amazed you fancy each other crazy and there’s been no move to DTD but I see your reservations. You have been on 10 dates…if you like each other massively he should not be seeing other women. He should just be thinking of seeing you all his free time. I think you need to si if you have a suspicion.

I'm naturally quite a reserved person, especially when it comes to intimacy etc after being messed around a lot when younger. But it's definitely on the cards and we've spoken about it etc. He says all the right things and I'm confident he's not messing me around or playing me etc, I just need this last little bit of reassurance (sad, I know!)

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