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How do I get lodger to leave

170 replies

Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:00

Lodger doesn’t have a written agreement. been here 1.6 years.

His behaviour has got worse recently and I’m sick of it. I’m not happy in my own home. So I asked him to leave.

There was an incident which I was waiting for.

i don’t think he realises he has to move.

so I’m going to follow up with a what’s app message.

any tips or anything? I don’t want to get into a dialogue.

OP posts:
HikingforScenery · 20/08/2022 18:12

Give him 4weeks OP.

I agree you don’t sound like you’re compatible with a lodger situation but at least give him a chance to find a place to live

Mummyoflittledragon · 20/08/2022 18:12

If op expected him to build the desk, that’s completely different. She should have stored it until she had a new lodger or paid someone to erect it.

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2022 18:13

I hadn’t read the other thread, @Snoozer11 - that is baffling.

LokiDoki75 · 20/08/2022 18:15

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2022 17:46

It wasn’t that the lodger didn’t want a desk, @SusanPill and @Mangledrake - he had bought a desk and put it in the living space. When @Poomamabear asked him to put his desk in his own room (presumably because he hadn’t asked to put it in the living space), he refused, at which point she told him he had to leave in three days, and he moved this desk.

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@SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius That’s not quite what happened though, what did happen was on the other thread that someone linked further up. The OP bought the desk for his room because she decided she wanted to change the desk that was in there and chose not to wait until the room was empty. The lodger didn’t get a say in it and didn’t want it in the room, hence leaving it in the living room.

AtLeastPretendToCare · 20/08/2022 18:16

Op the position remains, as others have said you have to give reasonable notice

“If your lodger is an excluded occupier, you only need to give them ‘reasonable notice’ to quit.

Usually this means the length of the rental payment period – so if your lodger pays rent weekly, you need to give 1 week’s notice. The notice does not have to be in writing.

You can then change the locks on your lodger’s rooms, even if they’ve left their belongings there. You must give their belongings back to them.”
www.gov.uk/rent-room-in-your-home/ending-a-letting

I wouldn’t get into the whys, just say this isn’t working for you any more and so you’re giving him [rental period] to leave.

AtLeastPretendToCare · 20/08/2022 18:16

To be clear the fact he doesn’t have a written agreement doesn’t mean you don’t need to give reasonable notice.

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 18:22

@AtLeastPretendToCare yes but that’s essentially kicking someone out, why? Just give him notice, unless he’s been very hostile! Which op hasn’t said he has.

Gosh don’t any of you have sons, what if this was your son being kicked out because he didn’t want extra furniture in a room he was renting.

Snoozer11 · 20/08/2022 18:25

And why do you need to create a third mumsnet thread, under a third username to ask how to get rid of a lodger.

I lodged with someone for years. We had a good relationship but eventually he wanted his house back. So he politely let me know one day, and gave me a few weeks. It was fine.

How can you need advice on how to send a message saying "as per our conversation, could you please leave by the end of the month".

When he doesn't leave, thats when you phone the police start a mumsnet thread.

AtLeastPretendToCare · 20/08/2022 18:25

@SusanPill I think you’ve misred my posts. I have laid out she SHOULD give him notice. Even though there is no written contract.

Wonnle · 20/08/2022 18:31

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 18:11

Well I’m out, this is too confusing so lord knows what the lodger feels like.

Ah but is there really a lodger though ?

GuerlainHo · 20/08/2022 18:33

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

Why is that so amazing?

OP certainly wouldn’t be the first to do so…🤔

kittensinthekitchen · 20/08/2022 18:42

Not only did the OP post the thread that's been linked, but she also posted this one yesterday

webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3nudKzVOX70J:www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4614649-half-way-house-next-door&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk

Why am I posting the cached version? Because the thread was deleted 🤔

www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4614649-half-way-house-next-door

We have deleted this thread as we have suspicions about the OP.

ColonelCarter · 20/08/2022 18:42

Not having a written agreement doesn't mean he doesn't have an agreement or doesn't have rights (though lodger rights are limited).

In lieu of a written agreement the legal advice is give a notice period equal to the rental period e.g. if he pays weekly, 1weeks notice. Unless he is a risk to you, in which case you can make it shorter (24hours) or call the police and have him removed immediately - you just have to keep his belongings safe for a specified period of time.

Goingforarun · 20/08/2022 18:45

When is his his next rent due? Make that his leaving date in your notice letter.

INTJ · 20/08/2022 18:45

The law is in the UK: lodgers require notice for the amount of time they pay rent: so if he pays once a month, he needs a months notice.

Give him written notice, great if you can get proof of that via an app or text.

Once his time is up, he HAS to leave. If necessary change the locks while he's out and box up his stuff. He is inside your home, the usual rules for other renters do not apply here. This only applies if you share living areas like kitchen and bathroom. If he's in an annex you may need to get a court involved as he's a renter not a lodger.

If you have to, call the police if you feel at risk.

CactusBlossom · 20/08/2022 18:49

Get legal advice. Did the lodger move in to your property, or did you take on the property with the lodger already there? Make sure everything is in writing.

ColonelCarter · 20/08/2022 18:50

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

Eh? Most students have lived in an HMO at uni. I've lived in 3, DH in 5 (3 at uni and 2 after graduation. We've owned several houses with mortgages.

Katieeb24 · 20/08/2022 18:56

When my aunt went to the council for help as she had to leave. Apparently the notice has to be when the rent is due. So if they pay weekly then only 1 weeks, monthly one months notice etc. although obviously I don’t know! She didn’t have a written contract or anything as the person was illegally subletting. The truth was told to the council and they still said this is the rule and she was given a legal notice she could put up at the door to the person. I was here at this appointment, so from this point of view, it seemed factual.

loislovesstewie · 20/08/2022 19:00

No-one would buy a property that had a lodger in it, would they? And no-one would take on a tenancy with a lodger in it either, so that really isn't what happened. I can't imagine circumstances where anyone owner-occupier or tenant would be offered that and accept it. The situation is clearly not working for either here.

Original poster
Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 19:06

Katieeb24 · 20/08/2022 18:56

When my aunt went to the council for help as she had to leave. Apparently the notice has to be when the rent is due. So if they pay weekly then only 1 weeks, monthly one months notice etc. although obviously I don’t know! She didn’t have a written contract or anything as the person was illegally subletting. The truth was told to the council and they still said this is the rule and she was given a legal notice she could put up at the door to the person. I was here at this appointment, so from this point of view, it seemed factual.

She would have been in a different situation…. Tenant.

OP posts:
JacquelineCarlyle · 20/08/2022 19:14

Drivebye · 20/08/2022 17:49

He doesn't like being told what to do by a woman. He sounds a pita, I'd get rid asap - no contract then out by Sunday. Get some mates round to support you.

This!

PhilInt · 20/08/2022 19:17

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ThinWomansBrain · 20/08/2022 19:20

It’s my house, I can do what I want

quite
if that's your stance, the purpose of posting here is?

Miajk · 20/08/2022 19:23

Aquamarine1029 · 20/08/2022 13:01

Tell him he is out by 5pm today or you are calling the police.

Really? People complain about landlords and try to prevent eviction, but they'd happily make someone homeless. What would you do if someone told you to get out with less than a day notice?