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Original poster

How do I get lodger to leave

170 replies

Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:00

Lodger doesn’t have a written agreement. been here 1.6 years.

His behaviour has got worse recently and I’m sick of it. I’m not happy in my own home. So I asked him to leave.

There was an incident which I was waiting for.

i don’t think he realises he has to move.

so I’m going to follow up with a what’s app message.

any tips or anything? I don’t want to get into a dialogue.

OP posts:
RaininSummer · 20/08/2022 13:25

I think you should give him a month's notice in writing unless he actually is dangerous or something. Why didn't you have a formal lodger agreement. Did you have the correct insurance etc if not it all sounds like it's been a bit risky.

FollowYourOwnNorthStar · 20/08/2022 13:26

WhatsApp text -

Dear John,
i am confirming in writing our earlier conversation in which I said your lodging arrangement at this premises is ending. I confirm that your last day in the premises will be one rental interval. As you pay fortnightly/monthly, this will be Saturday 3 September 2022, being a fortnight/month from today.

By 5pm on this date you must have paid your final payment up until this date, have removed all your belongings from the premises and left your keys on the kitchen bench.

I will return your bond once I have confirmed this is complete.

I will also put a copy of this text in writing and place under your door today.

kind regards,
Poomamabear

Original poster
Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:26

RaininSummer · 20/08/2022 13:25

I think you should give him a month's notice in writing unless he actually is dangerous or something. Why didn't you have a formal lodger agreement. Did you have the correct insurance etc if not it all sounds like it's been a bit risky.

People in the uk get way too cut up about insurance and don’t read the policies.

i live in the property, it’s my home.

contents They can have a clause and I was truthful

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FollowYourOwnNorthStar · 20/08/2022 13:27

I should add - it sure of the legalities of anything, but that’s a no-nonsense text that doesn’t invite a response.

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 20/08/2022 13:27

What makes you think he doesn't know he has to leave despite you telling him he has to leave?

SavingsThreads · 20/08/2022 13:29

Aquamarine1029 · 20/08/2022 13:01

Tell him he is out by 5pm today or you are calling the police.

What is wrong with you. This is someone's place to live. You'd make them homeless with a few hours notice?

GuerlainHo · 20/08/2022 13:29

Throw his stuff out and if you need to; change the locks.

You CERTAINLY don’t need to give him 4 weeks notice as for 1) you’ve already told him before he needs to go; and 2) He does NOT have a tenancy agreement, therefor he is there until you say it’s time to go.
Tell him NOW to pack his stuff and be out by 5pm TODAY or you will be calling the police.

I’m in shock you’ve been this patient as I know I would make his life a misery under my roof

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Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:30

BringBackCoffeeCreams · 20/08/2022 13:27

What makes you think he doesn't know he has to leave despite you telling him he has to leave?

He tried to discuss staying longer. Got heated and ended with me telling him to put the desk up in his room and he has three days (see clauses above).

he said no and a couple of hours later sent me a pic of it done…. Convo before was “I’m not doing it”.

OP posts:
janj2301 · 20/08/2022 13:32

Make sure you change ALL the locks the minute he leaves

Original poster
Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:32

janj2301 · 20/08/2022 13:32

Make sure you change ALL the locks the minute he leaves

yes and I’ve got Cameras

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GuerlainHo · 20/08/2022 13:34

SavingsThreads · 20/08/2022 13:29

What is wrong with you. This is someone's place to live. You'd make them homeless with a few hours notice?

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What do you mean a FEW HOURS notice?

Did you not read that the OP had told him previously that he needs to leave?

nocoolnamesleft · 20/08/2022 13:37

Didn't this guy post on Mumsnet sulking about having been told to move his motorbike?

BEAM123 · 20/08/2022 13:38

I've had lodgers and assuming he is a genuine lodger eg he does not have a lock on his door, then as a lodger he has no right to exclusive access to his room and he therefore cannot refuse to let you enter to get things fixed!

You can give him reasonable notice - if he pays monthly I would say a month is reasonable.

However if he is behaving unreasonably and making you uncomfortable in your own home you can ask him to move out sooner, if you think he will kick off then you can ask the police to be present to prevent a breach of the peace.

You do need to put it in writing though and have evidence that it has been delivered just in case - blue ticks on WhatsApp and a hard copy under his door shoud be plenty.

Sympathies, there is nothing worse than having someone living in your home and it turn difficult Iike this.

Original poster
Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:42

nocoolnamesleft · 20/08/2022 13:37

Didn't this guy post on Mumsnet sulking about having been told to move his motorbike?

Yes

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SusanPill · 20/08/2022 13:43

what was the incident?

why are people suggesting his stuff be chucked out?

most of it sounds like the usual perils of live in lodgers/landlord/lady.

RaininSummer · 20/08/2022 13:46

When I had lodgers I had insurance which covered them being there and also and potential accidents which they could feasibly have sued me for such tripping over a piece of loose carpet or something. I know what a lodger is thank you.

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Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:46

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 13:43

what was the incident?

why are people suggesting his stuff be chucked out?

most of it sounds like the usual perils of live in lodgers/landlord/lady.

Yes that’s a little harsh.

I just don’t like living in my own home and need to have my control back.

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Original poster
Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:47

RaininSummer · 20/08/2022 13:46

When I had lodgers I had insurance which covered them being there and also and potential accidents which they could feasibly have sued me for such tripping over a piece of loose carpet or something. I know what a lodger is thank you.

thats already covered in your home insurance…..

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LetHimHaveIt · 20/08/2022 13:50

Why are you insisting he put a desk up
in his room?

unname · 20/08/2022 13:51

nocoolnamesleft · 20/08/2022 13:37

Didn't this guy post on Mumsnet sulking about having been told to move his motorbike?

Do you have a link? I cannot find it.

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 13:51

Fair enough. It is hard and not for everyone. To be honest I really hated being a lodger, it was like having a parent and I was told off for existing. Never again. Not saying you’re like that. I ended up pretty much living at work as it was so depressing to be begrudged for ‘existing’ but my expensive rent was always welcome!

Sorry venting, you have my sympathy, it’s hard when it doesn’t work out, what has he actually said when you have mentioned you want the home back to yourself?

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 20/08/2022 13:52

unname · 20/08/2022 13:51

Do you have a link? I cannot find it.

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It was the OP doing a bloody reverse 🙄 It’s been deleted.

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 13:53

@WomanStanleyWoman2 i was just thinking surely that must have been a reverse!!

loislovesstewie · 20/08/2022 13:55

If he has exclusive use of a bedroom but shares other parts of the house with you, he is quite probably a bare licensee. You only have to give 'reasonable ' notice, and that will depend on the situation. If you are genuinely afraid that he might harm you ,then you can ask him to leave immediately and call the police if he refuses. It's best to put the request in writing, so there is no dispute.
If the circumstances are different and ,say, you have decided to use his room for someone or something else then longer would be better, but make it plain in your letter /communication that the time period is non-negotiable.

unname · 20/08/2022 13:56

WomanStanleyWoman2 · 20/08/2022 13:52

It was the OP doing a bloody reverse 🙄 It’s been deleted.

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Oh funny!

I don't mind a reverse so much. Usually easy to spot.