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How do I get lodger to leave

170 replies

Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:00

Lodger doesn’t have a written agreement. been here 1.6 years.

His behaviour has got worse recently and I’m sick of it. I’m not happy in my own home. So I asked him to leave.

There was an incident which I was waiting for.

i don’t think he realises he has to move.

so I’m going to follow up with a what’s app message.

any tips or anything? I don’t want to get into a dialogue.

OP posts:
GreenWheat · 20/08/2022 16:36

nocoolnamesleft · 20/08/2022 13:37

Didn't this guy post on Mumsnet sulking about having been told to move his motorbike?

Turns out that was this same OP posting a reverse. Thread was deleted.

thecatneuterer · 20/08/2022 16:38

Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 13:02

Ok.

so is it ok to give him 4 weeks

It's OK to give him 4 days. Two weeks would be more than reasonable. You really don't have to give 4 weeks unless you want to.

thecatneuterer · 20/08/2022 16:40

Someone I know did have a contract which said they had to have 2 months notice either way and they were still able to stay in the property for over a year by seeking legal action.

Well yes, that is often the case with tenants. However lodgers have NO rights. None. Whatsoever

loislovesstewie · 20/08/2022 16:40

Lodgers have very few rights, if they share kitchen/bathroom/living room with the resident landlord and the landlord hasn't put a lock on the bedroom door then they can be given reasonable notice, and it's a moot point what 'reasonable ' means. Believe me, I used to be a homeless officer and truly under certain circumstances immediate notice is acceptable. Court orders aren't needed and at the expiry of the notice period the resident landlord can change the locks. The landlord cannot withhold the lodgers property.

The landlord doesn't have to give a reason for asking the lodger to leave , they can just change their mind about having another person in the house. Obviously, if the relationship has been cordial, common courtesy means the landlord would give at least a timescale to allow the lodger to make other arrangements. I think it's important to remember that landlords can feel very vulnerable having an unrelated stranger in their own home, where they should feel safe.

thecatneuterer · 20/08/2022 16:43

You are taking money in return for a room, therefore the
contract is there. Unfortunately it may not be as straightforward as 'its my house I can do what I want'

When the landlord lives in the same house and shares facilities then it most certainly is the case. In this case he is a lodger, not a tenant, and has no rights.

ClottedCreamAndStrawberries · 20/08/2022 16:44

Just boot him out with immediate effect. Unless you’re desperate for the cash, I wouldn’t worry about the last week/month of rent. To me, it would be worth far more to just have him gone.

anon2022anon · 20/08/2022 17:02

I posted on your last thread, advising just to give him notice. Again, on this thread people are reacting as if youre renting him a room in a shared house- you're not, it's your home, you have every right not to want to feel uncomfortable in it. He isn't working for you, so he needs to find another room.

That been said, I would give him until the end of next weekend. Again, work in a lettings agency, and as a rush we could put through an application for a room in a HMO in about 36/48 hours. So giving him the week gives him a couple of days to find somewhere, submit references, etc.

Sswhinesthebest · 20/08/2022 17:13

Just put whenever you want him to leave in writing. You don’t need to justify your reasons to us. If you don’t want him in your home for any reason, that’s ok. A lodger has no rights.

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

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Poomamabear · 20/08/2022 17:21

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

Are you jealous? Why does it matter that I lived in a hmo and now I’ve got a property?

OP posts:
SusanPill · 20/08/2022 17:22

Why are people posting like this man has committed a crime and without many facts?

Its true that it’s the ops home and lodgers have different rights to tenants buts what’s with the frothing mob of boot him out!

Op sounds very contrary and it likely isn’t all the lodger. There’s nothing wrong with him not wanting extra or new furniture unless the furniture improves an issue which it wasn’t, it was op exerting power and talking about her lodger like a teenage son not abiding by her house rules.

Not many people are cut out for lodgers as they like the idea of the extra money and then they have a lodger in and get very territorial and parent like in my experience. I literally lived like a ghost in one place and didn’t bloody cook and the landlady still treated me like a subhuman who wasn’t welcome but as I said I’m a pp, she certainly loved my money.

Write him a notice and be done with it for gods sake and don’t get another lodger!

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 17:25

@thecatneuterer true but with that attitude be prepared to not have any lodgers. You can’t just kick people out for not wanting a desk. And yes I know op can but be prepared to not have any more lodgers as word gets around!

Nimo12 · 20/08/2022 17:28

You're kicking him out because he asked for notice to move his bike and didn't want a desk? 🙄

thecatneuterer · 20/08/2022 17:30

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

I'm a LL of HMOs. Quite a common reason for my tenants leaving is that they are moving into a property they have bought. After all, if you're saving for a deposit, you're going to do it more quickly by living in a room in a shared house than you are paying rent for a self contained house/flat.

Wonnle · 20/08/2022 17:43

Is it just me or does this not make much sense to anyone reading the OP comments ?

newbiename · 20/08/2022 17:44

Fingeronthebutton · 20/08/2022 17:19

Having just read the linked thread Re your other post I have to say I’m amazed that you were a tenant in an HMO and now you have a mortgage.

Why does living in an HMO stop you getting a mortgage?

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2022 17:46

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 17:25

@thecatneuterer true but with that attitude be prepared to not have any lodgers. You can’t just kick people out for not wanting a desk. And yes I know op can but be prepared to not have any more lodgers as word gets around!

It wasn’t that the lodger didn’t want a desk, @SusanPill and @Mangledrake - he had bought a desk and put it in the living space. When @Poomamabear asked him to put his desk in his own room (presumably because he hadn’t asked to put it in the living space), he refused, at which point she told him he had to leave in three days, and he moved this desk.

Drivebye · 20/08/2022 17:49

He doesn't like being told what to do by a woman. He sounds a pita, I'd get rid asap - no contract then out by Sunday. Get some mates round to support you.

Snoozer11 · 20/08/2022 18:06

It's infuriating that you've now made (at least) three threads on the same subject.

The poor lad probably can't wait to be rid of you.

Bordesleyhills · 20/08/2022 18:09

How he pays so weekly or monthly and put it in writing . You may need to evict him if needed

Snoozer11 · 20/08/2022 18:09

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 20/08/2022 17:46

It wasn’t that the lodger didn’t want a desk, @SusanPill and @Mangledrake - he had bought a desk and put it in the living space. When @Poomamabear asked him to put his desk in his own room (presumably because he hadn’t asked to put it in the living space), he refused, at which point she told him he had to leave in three days, and he moved this desk.

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But in the other thread the OP had bought a flatpack desk for herself which she liked, so bought another and wanted him to build it and put it in his room, despite him being happy with the existing desk. "My house, my rules".

She wasn't happy that it was still unbuilt outside his door a few weeks after she bought it.

NotSure2324 · 20/08/2022 18:10

Wonnle · 20/08/2022 17:43

Is it just me or does this not make much sense to anyone reading the OP comments ?

It's not just you.

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 18:11

Well I’m out, this is too confusing so lord knows what the lodger feels like.

SusanPill · 20/08/2022 18:12

@Drivebye That’s a jump 🤣