How do I get lodger to leave

[Poomamabear]

Lodger doesn’t have a written agreement. been here 1.6 years.

His behaviour has got worse recently and I’m sick of it. I’m not happy in my own home. So I asked him to leave.

There was an incident which I was waiting for.

i don’t think he realises he has to move.

so I’m going to follow up with a what’s app message.

any tips or anything? I don’t want to get into a dialogue.

its my house so I can do what I want. I live here. No written agreement

It’s my house, I can do what I want is the sort of statement that made people turn on you, last time. Learn from your mistakes. 😂

Because no other person would think otherwise. When he starts putting demands on him when I’m asking him to do a reasonable thing and I state the obvious….

And no one turned on me.

tell the whole story, he said I had to give him 24 hours notice… I said no.

If no one turned on you, why did you name change and leave the thread?

Presumably, if you want me to ‘tell the whole story’, you’d have no objections to me posting a link to the original thread here?

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Please do

I Had many lodgers through the years and he may sound annoying but not terribly.

Do not wassap him to kick him out, that will make him think you’re afraid of him or trying to avoid confrontation and it will make you look weaker. You message him and ask to have a chat in person and when is a good time.
once agreed you tell him your sister/nephew/mum/brother/friend is moving in with you for xyz reasons and sadly he’s going to need to find another place. If he owes you no money you give him 4 weeks at least.

It’s your home and you don’t need to engage in more explanations. End of.

Hey thanks.

I’ve already had that chat with him….. when he told me to give him 24 hours notice to move his bike. Ultimately he would be fine without his motorbike but it’s was causing a strain.

we also had a chat a few days later when I asked him to move the desk…. Which he refused…. But then sent me a pic later that evening of it set up…. So odd behaviour.

Less than 24 hours' notice seems extreme, unless he's done things you're not telling us about.

Making him build a desk he didn't want was unfair.

Okay. I generally wouldn’t, but as you’ve specifically asked: www.mumsnet.com/talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/4605521-heating-and-lodger?page=2&reply=119144724

Ok, so you already had the chat we’re he needs to move out by the x day of September. Good.

so where’s the problem OP?

This clearly isn't working. Instead of posting about him on Mumsnet, actually get him to leave.

It sounds an awful environment for both of you.

Why do you keep referring to OP’s previous thread?

This is a separate thread and she’s asking for new opinions…I’m not getting why the previous thread (which I’ve read has been deleted) is being bought up now?

It hasn’t been deleted. If you continue to read our exchange, you’ll see that she asked me to link it. If you’re interested in its relevance, then read it.

But why bring it up without contributing any sound advice on this thread to help the OP?

Apart from to detail the thread…🙄

there’s always one

He’s refusing to leave? Wait til he’s out, change the locks. Or get some friends round at the time you’ve told him to be out. I don’t think you have to give notice to lodgers.

As a rule of thumb, you are generally advised to give as much notice as the frequency he pays.

If he pays weekly - one week
Fortnightly - a fortnight
Monthly a month

He sounds like an idiot rather than a threat. But the police are your port of call if this changes.

I’ve just read the other thread btw. People should note the comment from the person working in a letting agency. You absolutely had a right to access the room for maintenance. The desk thing, moving his bike and so forth is him asserting power over you so you are absolutely doing the right thing to tell him to go.

As for how to do it. I would do it in writing so that you have a paper trail.

Are you in the UK?

You are taking money in return for a room, therefore the
contract is there. Unfortunately it may not be as straightforward as 'its my house I can do what I want'

I’ve contributed to this OP quite enough.

My last few comments have been in response to you. If you don’t want to derail the thread by talking about the previous thread, perhaps stop tagging me?

Okay I’ve read the thread. I don’t get the issue about the desk, it’s not about power, he likely has his own stuff in there? Also what was said before he made the mortgage comment?

This!

He could cause a lot of trouble and do a lot of damage in 4 weeks.

I don't know what his unpleasant behaviour is, but it isn't going to improve when you give him notice.

Under the circumstances, I would give him a week, with a very clear warning that I won't hesitate to put him out earlier if he gives me reason to. He's proved himself to be stroppy, entitled and unreasonable so there is a good chance his behaviour gets worse once he's been given notice. Be firm and don't let him bully you. Don't feel bad, you're actually teaching him a valuable life lesson, even if he doesn't see it that way.

Ignore posters telling you to leave today or in 4 days or whatever that’s just not practical.

I think 4 weeks notice is very fair.
Give it to him in writing so you have proof (maybe print 2 copies).

If you don’t want to list reasons why and get into an argument you could say ‘due to unforeseen circumstances’ or say you’re planning to sell.

Someone I know did have a contract which said they had to have 2 months notice either way and they were still able to stay in the property for over a year by seeking legal action.

It was only after the LL put the house on the market did they have to be out at the end of the 2 months that was stated in the contract.
The house was taken off the market shortly after they moved out.

4 weeks is very reasonable. Gives him plenty of time to move on.