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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
wellhelloitsme · 17/09/2022 12:13

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 11:59

I gave in because I felt bad about his situation. But do you all think it was bad what I did? Stood him up even though he was expecting me to meet him at a certain destination...I feel quite guilty.

I asked you this twice upthread but you never answered so I'll try again.

Are you willing to take some time out of your day, sit somewhere quietly and properly read back this whole thread including your posts and all the replies?

You keep asking the same things - is what he did that bad, are you being used etc. and you have literally hundreds of posts people have taken time to write explaining the answers to those questions and the reasons for those answers.

You need to read them and digest them. Make notes or something.

You aren't listening so i think it would be a really valuable exercise. Is it one you're willing to give a go?

Because what you're doing now isn't working is it? Continuing to not block him (despite everyone sayin this is vital), making decisions based on guilt and then posting on here afterwards asking the same questions repeatedly isn't working for you. It's time to try something new.

Womencanlift · 17/09/2022 12:13

No it wasn’t bad. Although most of us would have blocked and ignored him years ago

I don’t think you will ever stop this so as soon as you realise this is your life the better for you

If you don’t want it to be your life then block him and speak to those that can help

Stop ignoring all the advice that people have taken the time to give you

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 12:30

It's hard because I can't imagine him not in my life anymore. There's only my mum and myself and my siblings all live across the country. I don't go out much and don't see my friends often. His the only person that I know. It's difficult for me to say that's it

OP posts:
YellowTreeHouse · 17/09/2022 12:32

It’s not hard at all. You just don’t see him.

Cherchezlaspice · 17/09/2022 12:32

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 12:30

It's hard because I can't imagine him not in my life anymore. There's only my mum and myself and my siblings all live across the country. I don't go out much and don't see my friends often. His the only person that I know. It's difficult for me to say that's it

Lots of things in life are difficult. Seriously, read these comments, give yourself a slap and sort your life out. You can end this. You can see your friends more often. You can make new friends. You can, eventually, have a new relationship. You can get therapy to figure out why you allowed this mad situation to carry on for so long. You can do all of these things, but the only person who can do them is you.

StClare101 · 17/09/2022 12:34

I can’t believe what I’m reading. The only thing to do is block him from everything. Get some self respect.

wellhelloitsme · 17/09/2022 12:42

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 12:30

It's hard because I can't imagine him not in my life anymore. There's only my mum and myself and my siblings all live across the country. I don't go out much and don't see my friends often. His the only person that I know. It's difficult for me to say that's it

Is that a no to my question re re-reading the thread? Just because I think if you aren't willing to do that properly then I'm out.

mogsrus · 17/09/2022 12:55

Biggest load of red flags ever. You will never be happy. You really aren’t now ( & you know it) it will never change. Head high , shoulders back & walk away

madasawethen · 17/09/2022 13:14

Have you ever thought this creep has prevented you from having a good relationship with a nice man as well as more friends?
All of your energy focused on him and his issues, is keeping you from what you want.
It sounds like he needs to go back to where he is from and live with his mum.

Minfilia · 17/09/2022 13:21

This is horrifying to read.

contact WA (did you speak to them?), contact the police if he threatens you (again), and cut him out of your life.

he is not your problem to solve!

RampantIvy · 17/09/2022 13:31

@galaxymilkshake why do keep coming back to post the same questions over and over again, to be given the same responses over and over again?
Are you just trying to fill the thread or will you actually take on board the great advice you have been given on here?

  1. Take on board the advice on here and listen to your mum
  2. Block him on all forms of contact
  3. Talk to Women's Aid
  4. Get therapy
  5. Try to understand that being on your own is better than being with an abusive misogynistic arsehole
  6. Remember that YOU ARE NOT HIS SOCIAL WORKER AND HE IS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY
  7. The best thing for you would be if he got deported
FlissyPaps · 17/09/2022 13:39

You can absolutely carry on seeing him OP and having him in your life. But, it will be a life of misery. Abuse. You will probably end up dead. Sorry that sounds harsh but it’s the truth.

He’s abusive, physically violent. People like that don’t change.

Or you can block now. Today. Block him. Refuse to ever speak to him again. Contact the police and WomensAid and start the rest of your life. You are so young you have your whole life ahead of you. You will meet so many more people. Make more friends.

The choice is up to you. We can’t really say anything else. Feel awful for saying this but I’m beginning to think this is a troll thread.

DeedlessIndeed · 17/09/2022 13:51

OP, I work in immigration and migrant rights.

It sounds as if your partner receives S95 support and accommodation from the Home Office.

He has all bills, unlimited heating and electricity, council tax etc paid for. He'll receve 40.85 a week for food, travel and entertainment.

Although not a huge amount its enough to not have to rely on you.

After 1 year he can also apply for a work permit if the home office havent decided his application yet. If he hasn't done this then it seems he prefers this current situation.

He is using you. Plain and simple

Regarding sexual coercion - it is sickening. Don't give him the time of day. You are worth so much more.

YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet · 17/09/2022 15:13

Hi @galaxymilkshake we're going to move your thread over to the Relationships board.

In the meantime, we'd strongly advise you to contact Women's Aid. You can also see further guidance on gov.uk. You've received some pretty solid advice from other posters but we really think you need to seek real life help now, too.

GreyCarpet · 17/09/2022 15:36

You see him once a month, pay for hotel room so you and he can have sex and he gets pissed off if you don't have sex and demands his money back?

You're effectively a prostitute who's paying her punter.

How can you not imagine not seeing someone you only see once a month for sex anymore?

I see my boyfriend most days of the week and spend all weekend together. Yet I can well imagine how I'd spend my time if we were to split up! Yes, I'd miss him and I can't imagine him not being in my life anymore but that's because he's a huge part of it. But I also know I'd be ok if he wasn't.

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 20:02

GreyCarpet · 17/09/2022 15:36

You see him once a month, pay for hotel room so you and he can have sex and he gets pissed off if you don't have sex and demands his money back?

You're effectively a prostitute who's paying her punter.

How can you not imagine not seeing someone you only see once a month for sex anymore?

I see my boyfriend most days of the week and spend all weekend together. Yet I can well imagine how I'd spend my time if we were to split up! Yes, I'd miss him and I can't imagine him not being in my life anymore but that's because he's a huge part of it. But I also know I'd be ok if he wasn't.

He would have preferred to see me more often but I couldn't afford it...

OP posts:
wellhelloitsme · 17/09/2022 20:05

OP seriously, are you going to read back through the thread and take note of the excellent advice from literally hundreds of posters? Or is this more a safe space for you to use like a diary of your thoughts without actually wanting advice and help? It's best to be clear about what you're looking for sometimes otherwise people are sharing advice that you don't seem to want.

OldFan · 17/09/2022 20:20

You did nothing wrong, you didn't meet up with him because he was acting in a nasty and volatile way and you rightfully didn't want to be around that.

you are an enemy now and just watch

Call the police about this @galaxymilkshake , it's a threat. He's already been physically violent in the past.

Your life would be much better without the stress of any involvement with him. It might be quieter but it'll be worth it I promise you.

Outfoxedbyrabbits · 17/09/2022 23:44

You need to ring Women's Aid and the police. Your violent ex has threatened to kill you. You need support to end contact with this abusive, dangerous man. It is not your job to fix him or save him, nor is it actually possible for you to do either of those things.

Merryoldgoat · 17/09/2022 23:58

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet I think this thread should be deleted.

@galaxymilkshake is ignoring anything except questions about the logistics of meeting up and refuses to actually seek help.

Either we’re feeding a troll or we’re feeding the desperation of a very damaged person who doesn’t want to get better.

It’s one thing to be in an abusive relationship and recognise it but be unable to act for myriad reasons. This is something else entirely.

vodkaredbullgirl · 18/09/2022 00:05

Just going round in circles.

flutterbyfly · 18/09/2022 04:32

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 11:59

I gave in because I felt bad about his situation. But do you all think it was bad what I did? Stood him up even though he was expecting me to meet him at a certain destination...I feel quite guilty.

This is an absolute shitshow. You have been given such compassionate, useful advice and thrown it back in people's faces when they were trying to help you.

Stay with him if you like, see how that ends up. If you feel in danger, ask for help, it is here, but don't play around when people are worried about you.

flutterbyfly · 18/09/2022 04:34

Merryoldgoat · 17/09/2022 23:58

@YetAnotherBeckyMumsnet I think this thread should be deleted.

@galaxymilkshake is ignoring anything except questions about the logistics of meeting up and refuses to actually seek help.

Either we’re feeding a troll or we’re feeding the desperation of a very damaged person who doesn’t want to get better.

It’s one thing to be in an abusive relationship and recognise it but be unable to act for myriad reasons. This is something else entirely.

Yeah, this. Cop on, if you haven't already.

(Resources/support still all there in case this is real)

Wowwe · 18/09/2022 08:03

He is using you for money and sex and also so he can stay in the country.
Don't help with the paperwork. If I were you, I'd report him to the police for assault and he could be deported. Then he will leave you alone.
He sounds like a complete waste of space that is putting you in danger ... please don't have a baby. You can meet someone nice ... and do all that then. get rid of him first.

Thisgroupneverceasestoamazeme · 18/09/2022 08:26

OP, Where do you see yourself in the future? What are your hopes and dreams? If things carry on the way they are do you think you can achieve them and live a happy and fulfilled life? I understand you still have feelings for this man and it sounds as though he has some vulnerabilities that you feel responsible for? I hope you can get the strength to contact Women’s Aid for advice. They will have seen scenarios like yours many many times and be able to offer support and advice that takes the complexities of domestic abuse into account.

Changing something so big is very hard and it feels like the first step is realising that your relationship dynamic is unhealthy and abusive. That will bring up all sorts of emotions for you in itself. Please seek support.

All the best for the future.

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