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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
RampantIvy · 07/09/2022 09:02

The only thing that is your fault is not making the decision to dump him.

He behaves the way he does towards you because you allow it by staying with him.

Why can't you take on board what everyone is saying? What is wrong with you?

MsJinks · 07/09/2022 10:53

This isn’t really a relationship at all - you barely see him, and neither of you seem to like the other much!
You seem to feel bad for him, so let it all stagger along thinking you’re helping a bit by answering calls but you’re just making yourself feel bad for not wanting to meet him to be abused - this approach is not even helping him to be fair if that’s your real concern.
You seem very badly misinformed about his immigration issues but anyway you can’t help him with that - he has support on this and just needs to follow the process - hiring a hotel bed won’t help - unless you want a child with him to resolve it but I really hope not.
You also seem misinformed about why he’s homeless but again you can’t resolve that - he will be getting advice/support via LA or immigration, or even his mum who you said came to help him - is she on the streets too? Or could she give him a bed. Intermittent sex with you won’t resolve it.
you’re worried about his MH - refer him to social services or his GP or one of his workers, you can’t resolve that either by seeing him in a hotel once a month.
Im not sure why you drag this on at all but be assured that sharing a hotel room once in a while is not the solution to his problems anyhow - and there is nothing you can do to sort them out - don’t worry about him - he’s a grown man.

blackcatnight · 07/09/2022 12:21

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Proteinpudding · 07/09/2022 12:47

FFS I know the situation is frustrating to read, but can all the posters who keep accusing the OP of being fake, dense, or her not reading the thread properly get off their high horses and have a shred of empathy?

Surely Mumsnet should be one of the places where posters are more likely to be aware of the impact of gaslighting and abuse, who know the stats that it commonly takes women years to leave an abuser, how hard it is to see the wood for the trees when someone has made you feel responsible for their emotional and physical well-being and to always put them first and doubt yourself?

It is a process. The op is starting to question the relationship for the first time, that's a good thing. Stop the goading of God! Can't you read? Why haven't you LTB yet?

The Op needs time and support not criticism.

OldFan · 07/09/2022 12:54

You detailed your boyfriend’s abuse and then asked advice, then proceeded to not only ignore the hundreds of people who told you to leave him, but you kept coming back to the thread to report that you had spoken to him again and seen him again.

This is goady behaviour. You had no intention of seeking or following advice. You are here to stir the pot to see how long you can keep this thread going. And it is making a mockery of real domestic violence victims. What a nasty person you are.

@blackcatnight How OP is acting is typical of a woman in an abusive relationship. It makes women struggle to know what's going on. The bloke has also manipulated her into feeling responsible for him.

galaxymilkshake · 07/09/2022 15:14

Thank you all for your advice. I'm taking it all on board. I'm sorry if I am asking the same thing over and over again. This helps me to just process. I have been with since I was 15 and I have gotten used to his ways, to the point where I don't question some of his behaviours, as I just suspect ... well that's just how he is-sadly I have gotten use to it.

I do think some of the behaviours are my fault or I'm not being considerate. So when I do ask a question about a recent interaction with him, I want to see whether it's my fault or I'm not seeing his point of view.

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PinkArt · 07/09/2022 22:50

He. Is. Abusing. You.
Literally not one thing you have said about any of his behaviour is ok.
OP, please listen to all of the wonderful, loving help and advice you are getting here to run away from this man as fast as you can.

Tierne · 07/09/2022 22:53

Hes an arse wipe

RampantIvy · 07/09/2022 23:13

I do think some of the behaviours are my fault or I'm not being considerate

No they aren't. You have been conditioned to think like this because he is a manipulative abuser.

Be considerate towards yourself for a change.

Olivie12 · 08/09/2022 03:45

Vapeyvapevape · 17/08/2022 18:26

This actually makes me really sad , that young women need to ask what to do about a violent partner , I see it time and again on here .
We need to teach all girls from a young age what is an isn't acceptable.

@Vapeyvapevape

spot on, all women should have clear that this is unacceptable and abusive. It should be added to the school programs.

Olivie12 · 08/09/2022 03:54

You have all these women giving you feedback that he's an abuser and using you.

You seem not to believe or be convinced of it yet. You met him too young so he's got you to believe this is normal behavior but it isn't.

Perhaps it's best if you call Women's Aid or a counsellor who can guide you and explain more thoroughly. You need professional help.

JulesCobb · 08/09/2022 05:53

galaxymilkshake · 06/09/2022 18:52

Because I feel like it's my fault. He has been trying with me but I've been horrible to him and have been pushing him away. I have been avoiding him, only seeing him once every couple of weeks because of his unpredictable behaviour. I understand when he says that we are not in a normal relationship because we aren't as that's all down to me...

It is not down to you. It is down to his unpredictable behaviour. You dont want to see him.

you are punishing yourself because you think you deserve punishment.

you need to phone your GP this morning and make an appointment to go through this. you need some counselling to unpack the trauma that has led to you believe you need to be punished.

FlissyPaps · 08/09/2022 12:00

Perhaps it's best if you call Women's Aid or a counsellor who can guide you and explain more thoroughly. You need professional help.

I agree with PP ☝

OP, please contact WomensAid. Today. I believe posting on this forum you are just going round and round in circles. It isn’t healthy.

Tell them everything.

www.womensaid.org.uk

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 10:20

I've done such a bad thing and I've been upset crying as it's not really in my nature.

But to give an update. I know it's wrong but after a lot of pestering, I agreed to meet up with ex, but only at a public place (cafe) and a friend knew where I was. He has been very down about his situation, sleeping rough and I just felt bad and thought he needed someone to talk to.

Anyway, I was running late as I was stuck in a meeting and of course ex was getting a bit annoyed. I told him that I could only spend about 30 minutes with him as I underestimated the time of the meeting clash, etc. I told him this and he seemed fine but I said something to him (I forgot) and he called me "delusional" and was becoming a bit irate. That totally put me off and I just didn't meet up with him. I didn't want to risk it. He was calling and calling as he was already at the destination and I told him that I decided not to come as he was becoming angry and I didn't want to risk it. He was crying saying "why?" I'm always playing games. That no one cares. He said he didn't want anything to do with me, that I'm an enemy to him now and just watch.

OP posts:
YellowTreeHouse · 17/09/2022 10:23

It’s really simple: cut contact.

There's nothing else to be said.

wellhelloitsme · 17/09/2022 10:35

Go no contact. Everyone's been saying it for threads and threads.

If you're not willing to do that then there isn't really any more anyone can advise.

You need to cut contact completely.

Ilikewinter · 17/09/2022 10:43

Well he doesnt want anything more to do with you so thats great, now block his number...... but we all know that you wont so theres really no more advice that anyone can give you.

vodkaredbullgirl · 17/09/2022 10:45

You are your own worst enemy, you keep giving in to him.

Merryoldgoat · 17/09/2022 10:54

Have you actually seen a good therapist? Perhaps even a clinical psychologist?

You need proper and urgent help.

zingally · 17/09/2022 10:54

Run hard and fast.

This guy has all the makings of a dangerous thug of a man. Get out of this relationship immediately.

Munchyseeds2 · 17/09/2022 11:28

By cut/no contact we mean that he NOT be able to contact you
You need to BLOCK his number now!
It's really easy to do

Womencanlift · 17/09/2022 11:50

You are not listening to any of the very good advice already been given to you so what do you want posters to say?

You can either go round in circles and this is your life for ever more or you can contact Womens Aid and get advice on how to break this cycle

But I have a feeling that you won’t, which is sad but no one can help you if you don’t want to help yourself

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 11:59

I gave in because I felt bad about his situation. But do you all think it was bad what I did? Stood him up even though he was expecting me to meet him at a certain destination...I feel quite guilty.

OP posts:
Cherchezlaspice · 17/09/2022 12:02

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 11:59

I gave in because I felt bad about his situation. But do you all think it was bad what I did? Stood him up even though he was expecting me to meet him at a certain destination...I feel quite guilty.

Who are you asking this? The hundreds of people telling you to dump, block and call the police if he comes near you again?

What more do you want us to say? How many times can we say it? You’re doing this to yourself, at this point. It’ll stop when you choose to stop it.

YellowTreeHouse · 17/09/2022 12:07

galaxymilkshake · 17/09/2022 11:59

I gave in because I felt bad about his situation. But do you all think it was bad what I did? Stood him up even though he was expecting me to meet him at a certain destination...I feel quite guilty.

Who cares what you did?

You need professional help.