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AIBU or my boyfriend

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galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:08

Hello,

Had a slight disagreement with my boyfriend.
To begin, my boyfriend is awaiting his papers from immigrations (going on for about two years now- his parents did not sort out his immigrations papers when he was younger) so he cannot work, or essentially do anything, he is staying at a shared flat and is getting a small allowance (100-200) per month and some help from a scheme.Because of this I have been helping him out financially little by little. Now of course he wants to see my regularly, but often when we go out, I know I'm going to be the one paying for almost everything and then I feel bad because I get him toiletries, food etc. So We generally see each other once a month, around my payday, as I work part time and I'm a part time carer to my mum. He also suggests things like going to the park... but I sometimes say no as you will read below.

So of course, sex is off limits at the moment. He cannot come and stay over at my house and my mum really does not like him and they do not get on. I cannot stay over at my boyfriends house because he is in a government paid shared flat and he is not allowed to bring visitors. So every month, we book a hotel and spend the day today. But of course, I pay for everything and it's eating up my salary.

So two months ago, myself and bf stayed at the hotel. This time, he paid about half of the hotel and I bought food etc. So bf has been very stressed lately, he tried to commit suicide the day before and didn't like the was I was treating him. Unfortunately, on that day, I came on my period and he became upset, saying that it was a waste of time and that I should give him the £40.00 that he paid for the hotel. I said "no because, I paid for the majority of the funds for the hotel (UK hotels are getting very expensive) plus food (which he didn't eat and there in the bin) and that I never ask him to pay just this time as money is tight'. BF got very angry and said 'Well get out and book yourself a taxi, this always happens your always on your period.". He then was threatening me saying that I should give him the money back or else. Not wanting him to get angry, I transferred him the £40.00- telling him that I am struggling financially as I'm supporting my mother, as well as taking her to various private therapies which i also partially fund from my wages.

Anyway, not wanting to get into an argument, I just went to bed and pretended that I was I'll so he doesn't get angry. Then all of a sudden, I just hear him shouting at me at 3am in the morning!! I got up and said "Bf why are you shouting?", he was telling me that he de didn't like the way I was treating him, he was getting angry. Then when I told him to stop and that I have to get up early for work tomorrow. He began to kick my back very hard on multiple occasions and I fell off the bed, he then came very close to me, with his hands clenched, looking very angry, and wanting me to admit all the things that I've done and how it's my fault. If I dared talked back, I know he would have hit me. Anyway, I managed to call him down and we both went to bed. I didn't sleep at all because of what happened. When 6am came, I immediately told Bf that I had to go because I need to go to work- which was true but also because I wanted to get out of there ASAP. He was being such a mood, he was insulting my dress /sense, saying that I did not look nice for our date night and that if I ever wear what I was wearing again he wouldn't want to hang out with me. He then dropped him off home and he was being such a bitch, shouting at me because I suggested the wrong direction to getting home, telling me that I had no common sense, people were looking at us- it was just a bad day.

When I got home, I just cried, he apologised but I told him that I wanted space and we haven't really been speaking for about a month ago.

Anyway, present day, we have been speaking on and off and things are getting back to normal. But currently, as he is so stressed because of immigration, he wants to have sex (I have known him for a long time, but when he feels sad/stressed it's like he uses my body as a stress reliever- he doesn't admit it but it's true and god for it if I deny him sex, he just gets angry). So anyway, he has been initiating that he wants sex (we haven't done it in a while). I then told him that I would be happy to see him, go somewhere, take a walk, but right now I don't feel safe to book a hotel and spend the night with him because of what happened the last time. Well you know what happened? He became very angry, saying I'm cheating on him that I should admit it to him, that I'm making up excuses, that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

AIBU? I know it's been a while that we haven't had sex but I just don't feel comfortable to be in his company at present and want to wait a while. What should I do?

OP posts:
OldFan · 04/09/2022 10:58

I don't know what to do. I feel sorry for him. His on the streets and sleeping on benches with the off friend allowing him to stay for a couple of days.

This is his choice, they wouldn'tve kicked them out with no help to find somewhere else.

He called me crying today as he left his electronics and clothing in a safe place (as they were too heavy to walk around and has been travelling to seek support from charities) but he came back to realise that all his stuff have been stolen.

This is another lie to manipulate you.

PrinceOfPegging · 04/09/2022 11:05

Do you think your life will be better or worse without him in it?

Outnumbered99 · 04/09/2022 11:13

He doesn't have traditional Morals OP, he has hurt you, frightened you, and you are scared to leave him. I am so sorry that he is your first boyfriend and this is the only experience you have had.
This is not love, this is not what your life has turned out like- you are still young enough to break free of him and have a wonderful life with someone who loves you, to have a relationship that you could bring children into.

As we age sex can be off the menu for a long time for many reasons, illness, pregnancy/after childbirth, its NEVER a reason for violence! Life shouldn't be like the one you have described, it really shouldn't. I am so sorry for you tyhat you feel like this and i hope you can find the strength and support to break free, honestly.

PriamFarrl · 04/09/2022 11:39

You owe him nothing. What is his nationality or faith? There will be a support group for his birth nationality or, if he has a faith, then his faith group will support him. He is not your problem. He is a grown man.

galaxymilkshake · 04/09/2022 14:21

Sadly. What I have written is genuine. I have known for many years and yes do feel somewhat responsible for him. I cannot bear to see what he is going through and do feel compelled to help him. He is no way lying about his stuff getting stolen. I never heard him so genuinely upset.

OP posts:
mycatisannoying · 04/09/2022 14:29

You must get rid of this abusive loser.

SpongeBob2022 · 04/09/2022 14:36

This is the saddest thing I have read in a long time. There are over 400 comments on here, all agreeing that this person is abusing you...and yet you still don't seem to be able to see how bad this is. Please open your eyes to this. Please call Women's Aid to get help. I'm really concerned for you.

ILoveRumblyRabbit · 04/09/2022 14:46

I hope for your own good he does get deported.

wellhelloitsme · 04/09/2022 15:15

OP:

Do you understand that he has abused you? (Yes / no)

Do you understand the damage he could have caused you physically by repeatedly kicking you in the back? (Yes / no)

Do you think there is ever an excuse for someone repeatedly (or once) kicking someone repeatedly in the back (Yes / no)

Do you think that decent men ever, ever get 'angry' when their partner isn't in the mood for sex for whatever reason at all? (Yes / no)

Do you think he is a positive influence in your life? (Yes / no)

This isn't a snarky list, I know the answers to the questions above (we all do) but I can't gauge whether you are genuinely not understanding how bad news he is, or if you do understand but for some reason are unwilling to disengage from him in which case I'm not sure how we can help at this point.

blackcatnight · 04/09/2022 15:24

OP, I have worked with women who accepted abuse because it was common in their culture and communities. It was very difficult for them to break away because their parents, friends and family did not see the abuse as a reason to leave a man. I am sorry to be blunt, but does this apply in your case?

You really need to see that his behaviour is disgusting and inexcusable. You are not ‘helping’ him. You are being foolish and degrading yourself by staying with him. You deserve better. There are places and organisations who can help you break away, but you have to want to try. Please stop making excuses for this monster. He is a disgusting monster, not a real man, and you owe him nothing.

You are young and can start your life over, and even have the family you talk about wanting in your earlier posts. But if you stay with this terrible man, your life will be a living hell, guaranteed.

RampantIvy · 04/09/2022 15:39

and yes do feel somewhat responsible for him. I cannot bear to see what he is going through and do feel compelled to help him

Once again:
YOU ARE NOT HIS SOCIAL WORKER, AND HE IS NOT YOUR RESPONSIBILITY

He is manipulative and abusive, and he has really done a number on you. You need to talk to Women's Aid to get away from him.
Run
Run
Run

KassandraOfSparta · 04/09/2022 15:47

Here illegally, already has a conviction - for what OP doesn't say, is abusive, violent, makes threats, is homeless, treats the OP like shit.

What an absolute prince among men.

Do you want rid of him OP because you are saying in one post that you do, and in the next falling for his lies and feeling responsible for fixing his mess. How did you get on calling Women's Aid?

RampantIvy · 04/09/2022 15:51

@galaxymilkshake I'm not sure why you keep posting on here and asking for advice when you ignore it and make excuses for this appalling excuse of a "man".

Absolutely everyone has advised you to leave him, so why don't you believe them?

CPL593H · 04/09/2022 17:13

galaxymilkshake · 04/09/2022 14:21

Sadly. What I have written is genuine. I have known for many years and yes do feel somewhat responsible for him. I cannot bear to see what he is going through and do feel compelled to help him. He is no way lying about his stuff getting stolen. I never heard him so genuinely upset.

Obviously more genuinely upset than when he assaulted and threatened you.

I've read the whole thread and I don't know what you expect people to say. Everyone has told you that he is a violent, abusive loser and you come back with how sorry for him you are. It isn't healthy.

You don't live with him, you don't have kids with him (thank God) Cut him off and any threats at all, tell the police.

blackcatnight · 04/09/2022 17:21

This thread is actually rather unique in how unanimous the responses are. We all thing OP’s boyfriend is a terrible, terrible man and she should leave him.

Yet she won’t accept and keeps arguing and protesting about how sorry she feels for him.

I honestly think she expected advice on how to change his behaviour. She truly did not expect everyone to tell her to leave him. This gives me chills.

Thepeopleversuswork · 04/09/2022 17:27

galaxymilkshake · 04/09/2022 14:21

Sadly. What I have written is genuine. I have known for many years and yes do feel somewhat responsible for him. I cannot bear to see what he is going through and do feel compelled to help him. He is no way lying about his stuff getting stolen. I never heard him so genuinely upset.

@galaxymilkshake no-one is accusing you of lying. We're saying this is not your problem.

You need to start disconnecting from this man. If he's had his stuff stolen its not on you to sort it out. It's on him.

He clearly hasn't got his shit together and is incapable of looking after himself. You are enabling him in this cycle of uselessness by not stepping aside. But more to the point he is abusive to you. Even if none of this was his fault, he's using this to manipulate you for money and sex.

You need to stop thinking that its your responsibility to sort this out every time. As long as you continue to think that he will continue to take advantage of it.

ilyx · 04/09/2022 17:31

This has probably already been answered but if he’s been here for atleast 12 years why is he suddenly in trouble for immigration? How old is he? What country is he from?

kateandme · 04/09/2022 22:44

It would only be human to be upset if you landed yourself on the streets op.very easy emotionally to convey! It doesn’t mean that person isn’t mean,abusive and frankly a shit.it doesn’t swipe away the abuse on you.evil men can be doctors,they can also be men on the streets. It never makes their behaviour right.and it is up to us to stand against that.to fight back.not easy.at all.but your away from him right now.he is currently not in your life.this is your opportunity.one many woman don’t get,being trapped in the home with their abuser.you are free and you need to continue to be so.

Mybumlooksbig · 04/09/2022 22:50

This breaks my heart,

He is using you for money, sex and for a lunch bag. Emotionally and physically abusing you. Please inform the police what he has done, delete his number, block him, cut all ties.
You will and can do better.

Mybumlooksbig · 04/09/2022 22:51

Punch bag not lunch bag

PurpleNebula84 · 04/09/2022 23:01

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 18:38

He’s had no status in this country for 12 years?

Yes he has but he is on some type of Visa, I forgot what it's called, so he has to renew it every three years or so until it reaches 10 years and then he could apply for a British passport. But as you know, immigration take a long while- also, his initial renewal application was rejected the first so now he is going through an appeal.

The reason why we see each other once a month is because of "ME", he would want to see me everyday but I choose not to as he is unpredictable with his behaviour.

This isn't a relationship.
You have quite clearly said you don't want to see him because of HIS unpredictable behaviour.
That's not normal.
That's not love.
That's you feeling you have to maintain something with him because you are scared of the alternative.
Pull yourself up - you are worth more than this.

OldFan · 04/09/2022 23:02

I never heard him so genuinely upset.

@galaxymilkshake My ex used to fake cry, both to me and his family members. It used to really tear at my heart strings. But after we split I realized it was fake.

OldFan · 04/09/2022 23:08

that his giving me a month and then watch, he would be in "full rage and no one can't say anything".

I think I missed parts of the OP @galaxymilkshake . This sounds a bit like he was threating to kill/hurt you more.

This is all very nasty and I hope you manage to break free of him soon.

Novum · 05/09/2022 08:58

If he really is on the streets, the reason he has given you for it is a lie. I'm prepared to bet that the alleged theft of his stuff is also a great big lie. His so-called suicide attempt was also a lie.

He's trying to con you into taking him in. You don't have to help him. If you feel you must, give him the number of your local branch of Shelter, then block him.

Novum · 05/09/2022 09:03

galaxymilkshake · 17/08/2022 20:25

He did try and commit suicide as his mum was crying over the phone saying that he tried to commit suicide and that she was in the hospital. She was demanding to know why he did it and why it happened.

DSis's horrible ex was always threatening to kill himself and saying it was her fault. He also made at least one so-called attempt by taking pills, but the hospital told her that there was no way that the amount he took would actually have killed him.

When DSis finally got away from him, he kept threatening suicide again. Fortunately by then it was very much a case of crying wolf and she felt able to ignore and block him.

Six years later, he's still very much alive and almost certainly doing it all over again to some other unfortunate woman. Meanwhile, DSis is the happiest she's ever been with a decent man who loves her and feels no need to manipulate her, whether by way of silly suicide threats or anything else.