Why are women 35+ disliked so much?

[TheP0]

Hi this is not an inflammatory question. i want some perspective. Mean no offence to anyone.

society deems women over 35 as unattractive, not fertile, unwanted women, women who get no male interest etc and men most likely just like younger women cos they are hardwired for it and wont see you or want you the same way. Theres no chance for you if 35+ etc. For men it's not a problem if they 35+

How do women over 35 accept this? Is it just a fad that society promotes or is it real?

I'm 51, I don't feel like this at all.

One of the best things about getting older is that I care less and less what other people think of me.

There are definitely certain men who think they are entitled to date a 25 year old, rich supermodel when they themselves are 5ft 7, have receding hair and a pot belly. But you don’t want to be dating them!

Online dating is a nightmare - it’s full of horrible, nasty people. And it takes a lot of work to sift out the infrequent gems.

Why is men's view of women considered to be the only one that matters? Most women over 35 have learnt how to value themselves as individuals and not just as "eye candy" for men. The OP comes across as sexist and undervaluing women.

I'm 36 and don't feel the way you describe.

I think there's definitely a different flavour of misogyny for older women - the whole "Karen" thing (which loads of people rush to say is fine and isn't sexist, but it really is), in the media women tend to get shifted out of the limelight and have less roles (although I think it's getting better).

Personally I think it's because we come into our power later on, we stop tolerating bullshit that we might have gone along with before out of naivete or for fear of not being picked.

(I'm not responding to the attractiveness/dating element, because it's the least interesting).

I’m in my 60s and this certainly hasn’t been my experience - mine would be “nobody takes you seriously under 30, men see older women as their equal and (much) younger women as toys”.
Infertility is an absolute blessing after years of contraception!

Why are you asking OP? What's your own take? 🤔

If the OP is over 35 and trying to meet a man who wants children, it will be more difficult for obvious reasons. But this does not mean that society hates women over 35.

Some people do, but only if they conflate women with existing to be young and please men. It’s a toxic, pernicious - and loud - view but it’s far from being universal.

Sadly a lot of young women can become very anxious about it. They shouldn’t. For the majority their mindset and priorities will change and grow as they get older. Just as the mindset of a toddler changes when they reach primary school and again when they reach secondary school. A few still wish they were babies with no responsibilities and everyone telling them they’re so cute - particularly if they have emotional issues -but most don’t.

I did OLD on and off from age 47 to 52 when I met DH. I never had a problem attracting men younger, older or same age. Some men specifically don't want younger women who have young kids, or they find women of their age more interesting to talk to. Physically I was and am in good shape as I do a lot of sport, that helped attract men too.

I’m 56 and happy to be ignored by those kind of men!

What do you do in "healthcare" what is your actual job?
It isn't the study I was referring to. You should know that again "loads" of women really isn't evidence -based research.

Does potential menopause put men off?

Best contraceptive ever! That, and being overweight have ensured my continued safety and protection from men. This is great for me as I don’t like men and don’t currently want any sort of interaction with them.

So good to hear!

I never felt like that and still don’t at 50 odd. Maybe it’s perception creating reality.

HRT sorts that beautifully. I advise all women who can to get on it before their fifties.

@Musttryharder2021 no, the menopause wasn't a concern for men at all in my experience

Try being fat and over 50. I think most men would rather date a raging alcoholic with lepresy than a fat person. They're all on dating sites lamenting that they can't find anyone and where are all the good women at but yet swipe past anyone who isn't 'beautiful' 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

Men on OLD entirely over estimate their worth

Yes, this is true for the men I met, a woman aged fifty was not a deal breaker for them but a fat woman was

Nope has a child at 43. Got 2 sisters who had first children older. (To be fair our mums had children in their 40s but not first children.)

My ex-dentist bugged off to have a child in her 40s. I had a conversation with me while pregnant. She had quite a few friends who had children in their 40s. I also work in STEM and was working in a science park after I had my DD. All the female scientists and technologists kept admitting they had their children late 30s to mid-40s.

It does help though I'm based in London so there are millions of people I could meet throughout London and the SE.

Try being a female lawyer, no one takes you seriously until you’re at least 40+ and preferably a bit grey haired.

If you’re just talking about dating then of course men are mostly attracted to fertile women, that’s basic biology. If you’re talking about respect from ‘society’ then you’re talking total nonsense. Go into any professional meeting with a 25 yr old woman and a 45 yr old woman, and watch the 25 yr old get ignored while everyone listens to the 45 yr old…

Not really such why I’m bothering to reply to such a dumb post.

Try not seeing yourself through the lens of wanker men and women with internalised misogyny. I don't value myself by whether men might think I'm a has been or not because I've got a bit of cellulite. I think older guys who only chase after much younger women are a bit pathetic really and miss out on women their own age with whom they'd have much more in common. Except they'd probably not be in thrall to them, which is what they're really looking for, as well as the the approval of their mates.