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Scared to tell my dp what a selfish arse he is in case he ends it.

238 replies

Whoevenami16 · 13/08/2022 01:24

we have been together for eight years. I was previously in 25 year EA marriage that ended with Courts and Barristers. I have Adult children that live independently. Dp never been married, no children and is younger than me.
but he’s a man child. He is out regularly, has hobbies that go on for hours and socialises without me a lot. He went out golfing today, left the house at 8.30 this morning. I asked him to please not go mad drinking as we are out for the whole day together tomorrow. He called me at 7 to say he would be done by 8 and he would call me for a lift home. At 10.30 he called. He has been sick all over my car, in the bedroom and the bathroom. So tomorrow is likely to be a right off. Sunday he has his hobby all day.
I am furious and sad. I feel that it shows complete lack of respect for me. The drinking to excess like that makes my anxiety kick off. He knows this.
I love him very much and don’t know how to handle this.
would you be upset and what would you say to him.

I feel such a failure

OP posts:
dontputitthere · 13/11/2022 03:57

So what's happened @Whoevenami16

Are you still with him despite everyone's advice?

TedMullins · 13/11/2022 08:10

Whoevenami16 · 07/11/2022 22:02

Thank you for your replies.

the advice I would give to my adult dc would be ‘don’t put up with this behaviour and that they deserve more’

I do love him very much.

I don’t like the drinking. Drunk people in general make me anxious. My xh was a nasty drunk and became more abusive and paranoid when he had a drink.
my dp of eight years doesn’t drink at home ever. He binge drinks when he goes out with the lads. He is immature and when he does this he invariably goes overboard and gets trollied. I wouldn’t say he was an alcoholic.

it was a genuine question as to whether it is normal to be sick after binge drinking like this. I’ve never done it.

i Am so upset that he has been so selfish and not put me first. my expectations are obviously too high .

I don’t want to leave. I want him to change.
I know how pathetic I sound

Well, he’s proved he isn’t going to change, didn’t take your ultimatum seriously (and why would he when it’s obvious you won’t follow through with it) and values binge drinking over the relationship. It’s not normal to puke everywhere, it’s absolutely revolting. I was drinking with friends last night and the worst that’s happened is a moderate hangover. I haven’t thrown up from drinking since I was overdoing it at uni, and I imagine most people would say the same. Even at 18 I managed to aim the puke into the toilet!

Just dump him. He’s never going to be any different. You can’t change someone’s behaviour and feelings, only they can do that, and he’s shown you time and time again that he won’t. What’s the worst that’ll happen if you dump him? You’ll be sad for a while but then in the long run you won’t have to deal with his disgusting puke sessions and you won’t feel disrespected and disappointed every few months when it inevitably happens again.

ExtraJalapenos · 13/11/2022 09:04

Jesus Christ OP.

Stand back and read this thread as if it was your daughter or som going through this.

You'd probably tell them they are and absolute idiot for thinking their partner would change.

I'm sorry but its actually frustrating reading threads like this.

You're going to stay with this man child who spews all over the house when drunk (I mean who even does this after the age of 21?).

Doesn't matter what anyone says. You've made it clear that you're still staying. What was the point of the ultimatum? It was just words you couldn't stick by. Just like him funnily enough..

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 13/11/2022 10:51

I don’t want to leave. I want him to change.

I 100% guarantee that he will not change. Because he knows that you won't leave.

I really think you need some counselling. Why would life being single be worse than life with him? Being single is actually really fun.

BankseyVest · 13/11/2022 11:00

No it's not normal to be sick after drinking. Yes it happens from time to time, but usually when you're young. I'm 49 and can't remember the last time I was sick due to drink. I have friends that, from time to time are sick after over indulging, but it tends to be the exception to the rule.

A friend of mine, picked her dh up in their brand new car, after he'd been out drinking with friends (he's in his 40s), he was sick in the car, she got home, handed him a bucket and told him to clean it, she then sent him out to the car the following morning and told him to finish cleaning it .

He won't change until HE wants to. You've told him how you feel, you've told him you'll leave if he does it again. He's don't it again. You've 2 choices, leave, or put up with him doing it all the time. If you don't leave, you've offered him an empty ultimate, he will know this and carry on

AttilaTheMeerkat · 13/11/2022 11:00

What do you get out of this relationship now?. You are not a rehab centre for such a badly raised man so do not continue to act as one. You cannot rescue and or save such men from their own selves; these types do not want to be rescued and or saved.

Wanting someone else to change is an exercise in futility because it will not happen.

I think you are codependent and are confusing this state with feeling love for him. Your previous marriage was abusive (I am presuming this is what EA means) and you've basically gone from that into this one which is also abusive. He is a drunkard and your codependent nature suits him down to the ground. You get and will continue to receive nothing at all good from this relationship. Better to be on your own too (what is so bad about that in your eyes) than to be so badly accompanied.

What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up?. It is a question that really does deserve consideration here because there are relationship patterns here along with red flags you've been minimising or simply not recognised.

barskits · 13/11/2022 11:23

It is relatively normal for late teens and 20-somethings to get plastered and be sick. They are young and do stupid things. It is not normal for middle-aged people to do the same, especially when they have been asked over and over again not to do it.

He has a binge drinking problem, and he is not going to change. I just hope that he doesn't drive home in that state.

You said earlier in the thread that you live with him but have your own property that is currently rented out. Perhaps it is time to give the tenants notice.

Ladybug14 · 13/11/2022 11:27

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 13/11/2022 10:51

I don’t want to leave. I want him to change.

I 100% guarantee that he will not change. Because he knows that you won't leave.

I really think you need some counselling. Why would life being single be worse than life with him? Being single is actually really fun.

This

You need help, counselling, therapy. Your reaction to this horrible man is way out of whack.

Leave him. Make yourself happy. Love yourself....don't hang around waiting for his pathetic crumbs .....don't you think you deserve the best in life? And if not, why not? And why wait in the hope that someone else will give you the best. Give it to yourself

Oh and..... HE WILL NOT CHANGE

Ladybug14 · 13/11/2022 11:31

Whoevenami16 · 13/11/2022 01:10

why bother reading and commenting then?

@Tessabelle74 is right

I'm not sure why you posted , OP, because not only will your partner not change, but neither will you. For some weird reason you believe you have to be in a relationship - no matter how bad it is.

Blueink · 13/11/2022 12:53

Hi OP, thanks for updating us. It’s good you can see objectively you would want more for a DC than you have in your own relationship for yourself. Your expectations are not too high, he has broken the boundary that he agreed 3 months ago, which shows he has a lack of respect for you and the relationship. If you break the boundary that you agreed (to leave if it happened again) your own self respect will be eroded and you are now in a weak position in the relationship.

A PP suggested a half-way house of moving back into your own place and possibly continuing to date him (if you decided with that perspective you still wanted to). That could be a good compromise.

Unfortunately we can only work on changing ourselves and it takes self motivation (which for you, could be accessing counselling, working on strengthening your boundaries and increasing self worth and self esteem). What steps has he taken to change? Did he start going to AA meetings or start seeing a counsellor? He’s nearly 50, he is unlikely to change (we can’t say “he’s 20, he’ll probably grow out of it”) and it would have to firmly come from him wanting to change. He doesn’t.

He’s shown he’s prepared to risk losing you for the sake of a night out, he’s showing he’s not invested enough or genuinely interested in changing anything. As it is he’s eaten his cake and he still has it, so there are no consequences for him, only you.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 14/11/2022 07:21

Nothing will change unless you make the change. And if you don’t follow through then you have only yourself to blame if he never takes what you say seriously

Bedazzled22 · 14/11/2022 09:53

I think we all know that binge drinking is a problem. He has promised not to do it again and yet he has done so. There will come a time OP when you don’t want to deal with the aftermath of this anymore. It doesn’t sound like you are there yet but sadly I think it will come. I don’t think he will change, he probably doesn’t want to.

dottiedodah · 14/11/2022 10:29

He sounds vile .please end it now .you are better off alone 9

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