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Much younger woman staying with us...

478 replies

Idontknowwhattothink · 02/08/2022 22:36

I cannot believe I am typing this.

Myself, my partner and our small child are living together. I am early forties, he is early fifties.

We have a woman in her early twenties staying with us from another country. She is very good looking and is scantily dressed most of the time. This is not me being jealous, this is a factual observation. There is no way he has not noticed she is very attractive looking.

My partner is handsome, likeable, warm, engaging. But... He's not George Clooney and he's old.

This is the weird thing. If it wasn't so ridiculous I would be sure she had a giant crush on him. She really seems to always want to spend time alone with him, gazes at him constantly and seems somewhat besotted.

But surely surely not?

OP posts:
Emotionalsupportviper · 03/08/2022 20:17

SwedeCarrotLime · 03/08/2022 20:06

Haha - this has reminded me of the girl in my A level Politics class who admitted having a massive crush on Michael Portillo, who would have been in his fifties at the time. We never let her live it down!

MICHAEL PORTILLO!!!!! 😦

He has lips like chunks of raw liver!

isadoradancing123 · 03/08/2022 20:17

Why on earth would you put up with this. Just get rid of her, its that simple

SwedeCarrotLime · 03/08/2022 20:19

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/08/2022 20:17

MICHAEL PORTILLO!!!!! 😦

He has lips like chunks of raw liver!

IMAGINE the outcry from twenty seventeen-year-old girls (and our teacher). I don’t think we got any more work done that day.

Emotionalsupportviper · 03/08/2022 20:22

😂😂😂😂😂😂 😂 😂 😂 😂

@SwedeCarrotLime c

youlightupmyday · 03/08/2022 20:22

After reading more I'd say get her out now. Tell your friend it isn't working. You don't have to explain, just remove her and solve the issue.

badhappening · 03/08/2022 20:28

It's very entitled and very disrespectful behaviour.

I would have to say something to her. It would be kind but straight to the point, and it would include get some clothes on and back off or pack your bags.

Not that it's your responsibility, BUT in the future this girl could go on to cause a lot of damage to couple in relationships and she could do with being a bit humiliated and pulled down a peg or two now.

Idontknowwhattothink · 03/08/2022 20:29

kateandme · 03/08/2022 20:13

You seem so Blah about if it turns out your dh does go with her.like do you love him at all?that thought should be devastating no?but your so cold and allof about the prospect of being better off if the fool cheats.

Maybe it appears like that.

I would not blame him for being flattered and tempted by the open attentions of anyome but particularly someone very attractive.
I would miss him and feel devastated for our daughter.
I am listening to what he's saying about us spending more time together as a couple.
But he's I do think if he cheated especially with someone it's unlikely there's any real connection with I would show him the door and be better off without him.

OP posts:
AnnieSnap · 03/08/2022 20:30

I’d want to kill her if it was my husband and he’s 68. I certainly wouldn’t find it funny!

GirlOfTudor · 03/08/2022 20:42

Can't believe all the comments assuming the young woman is Ukrainian just because the poster stated she wasn't from the UK. Like there's no possibility that anyone from any other country could stay at her house? 🤦🏽‍♀️

I'm in my 20s and find plenty of men in their 50s charming and attractive!

Crikeyalmighty · 03/08/2022 20:45

I would feel exactly like you OP. My H is decent looking for his age , dresses well and works in a 'cool' industry.

It's not ok and I feel for your H too , as he must see how awkward it is and that it's making you feel bad- on the other hand most men have a bit of an ego so it's probably very flattering to him!!

Asurvivor · 03/08/2022 20:50

It is way better to react now than have to deal with the aftermath. Way better that your dh is just flattered, keeps the boundaries that he is trying to maintain under a lot of provocation and you can talk (laugh even) about it together later and keep your family together.
He really has been trying to tell you something is not right with this guest. I hope for you that is not too late.

CambsAlways · 03/08/2022 21:00

It’s obviously a bit of a deal op or you wouldn’t be posting for answers on here would you, of course she can have a crush on him, or his wallet! She’s obviously not being very respectful to you is she, walking around scantily dressed, why doesn’t or didn’t your husband say something to her when she first arrived, or you have a word with her, I think she knows what she’s doing, I’ve never heard of a husband walking on egg shells, she’s a guest in your house, your house .your rules , not hard to tell her to dress appropriately

Festoonlights · 03/08/2022 21:02

I would just say that for a young woman of her age this is just fun and attention. She will have no idea or concept of the pain she could cause or the devastation to your your dd. None. She is too immature and young to really understand. Please don’t expect her to care - she doesn’t, she has shown you that much already.

One thing that stood out to me - your dh saying you need more date nights and sex? Is he lining up his excuses early? If you told him you feel uncomfortable why talk about sex?! Surely he would be more reassuring and not highlight the lack of intimacy between you.

youlightupmyday · 03/08/2022 21:04

Alan Rickman Love Actually..

Festoonlights · 03/08/2022 21:07

And it could be that she wants the lovely house and nice lifestyle, as others have said. It’s not impossible to imagine. I would ask the company to move on the grounds of covid or another excuse if you try and tell the truth they assume you are a jealous wife, but that’s a long way from the truth, and I guess you value in the income in the future.

Aikko · 03/08/2022 21:23

Asurvivor · 03/08/2022 19:46

Totally agree that you are crazy to watch and wait and let this continue. Your guest is walking all over you and I honestly think your relationship is in danger. Your dh is trying to set some boundaries, but he is tempted (otherwise he would be oblivious to her actions) and his boundaries are being eroded - maybe you can’t see this but you really need to. Wake up and stop this now.
I don’t believe telling her about this will make any difference - find her alternative accomodation and stop putting up with this blatant disrespect of your relationship / hospitality.

Absolutely this. If this situation continues for some time, he could very well fall in a moment of weakness.

Unsure33 · 03/08/2022 21:23

Not being funny but there are some women who find money age and power as the attraction. And that type of person probably think they can get everything they want .

I agree with you about her sitting so close to him is weird.

but your OH sounds lovely and probably embarrassed. I definitely would not have her there another week.

Idontknowwhattothink · 03/08/2022 21:28

I told her this evening that if her contract is extended she won't be able to stay with us as we have family members staying. Job done.

OP posts:
Festoonlights · 03/08/2022 21:31

When does she leave?

MissStress · 03/08/2022 21:41

Festoonlights · 03/08/2022 18:56

You sound fantastic op but with respect you are approaching this from your own secure view point.
I was a very damaged young adult (serious parental issues) and for me the replacement of real self esteem was to enjoy being beautiful and enjoy serious male attention - from absolutely everyone and anyone. Once I worked with a gorgeous man, I was only seventeen, he was married and two kids and the chemistry between us was unbearable. When his wife was around he would go stone cold and feign indifference, and was exceptionally cordial until the day he gave in and literally grabbed and devoured me. It had built up to such a degree in the same ‘dance’ as you describe. The eye contact and magnetism.The chase was part of the thrill - the more he moved away, the more attractive he became to me. My heart would stop looking at him. It was a relief when he finally kissed me. The longing to be with him did not subside, and he continued to pursue me afterwards, but I felt bad about his family set up. He told me he thought about me all of the time. I have absolutely no doubt that he did. I knew he was becoming infatuated.

I think you are crazy to allow this to continue!! As nice as you are, you are no match for her intentions. If she’s determined she will find a way.

Get rid of her now. Protect your marriage - don’t be naive. The writing is on the wall.

It would not surprise me if she was behind the extra weeks stay.

I have to broadly agree and can also shamefully recognise some of my own behaviour at that age in this post and had multiple older lovers/partners.

However the guest’s motivation is irrelevant as it’s of course all in the DH hands in this scenario. The only red flag re OP DH is that he seemed awkward and evasive when asked about time when they’re alone. I’d suspect he has been - maybe at the start and totally innocently (but she’s got the wrong end of stick), much nicer to her when you’re not there.

You definitely don’t sounds insecure to me; if anything you sound extremely secure and capable and not at all jealous. From a causation perspective this is certainly coming from the guest overt behaviour and not a fantastical paranoid theory of OP.

The allusion to clothing (lack thereof), is imo not a sleight of mind of OP, it’s a normal observation that is contextualising the dynamic and potential sexualised/charged nature of the interchange with her DH. It’s not exactly controversial (human nature) & to imply otherwise or somehow try to turn it on the OP is highly basic.

The behaviour is the problem, the clothes are just the cherry on top of a dodgy cake of competitive desperation/validation.

You sound like you are a capable, confident fabulous woman and I’m sure it’s nothing to worry about.

That doesn’t mean you have this disrespectful creature around for one second longer than necessary however; the metaphoric floater in the familial home punchbowl.

Can you/DH say that the living/tv room is private family room and she has her own living room… so piss off & sit in that 😂” ?

Aikko · 03/08/2022 22:03

"No i don't want her to stay. I don't enjoy her company and my DH is right, we need more date nights, time alone and and sex."

I.e. your DH is probably getting turned on by her advances,.. and is implying that area lacking in your relationship.

SimonaRazowska · 03/08/2022 22:10

You are so naive OP

there is a certain type of woman, who delight in the sport of seducing an unavailable man. It makes them feel powerful and sexy

i met quite a few French girls like this in my life 😁 (other nationalities are available), a stunning Argentinian too. Also an English one

Is this the first woman of this type you have ever met?!

are you Emma Thompson in Love Actually???!!!

Windypants21 · 03/08/2022 22:11

An older lady I knew (late 40s to 50s ) 'Mary ' met her future husband after he was utterly devastated by his wife cheating on him. When they got together they both said they would never cheat on each other. He went to work abroad, she decided to not move with him ( his contract was only for 2 years and she didnt want to give up her job ) but Mary went to see him every 2 months for 2 weeks at a time. A fellow expat said to her when they first arrived , I wouldn't leave my husband here on his own. But Mary was sure he wouldn't cheat due to his history. The local young and very attractive women were known to make it a sport to catch an older (foreigner) man and this is exactly what happened. So Mary was left utterly devastated by his betrayal. Few older men would be able to resist that kind of determined effort to ensnare them by a young beautiful woman who may be seeking an escape to a better life.

ScarlettnotOHara · 03/08/2022 22:19

Sad to say but you can see where this is heading !! She be asked to leave today, I just can’t understand why any woman would put up with obvious flirting in their own home 🙄

Asurvivor · 03/08/2022 22:40

That sounds good that you have told your guest that it is not possible to extend her stay. I do wonder how she will take this - a rejection? Maybe expect some drama.
So I still think you need to find her alternative accomodation, because if she is “homeless” then won’t your house be the default option and will your dh be able to refuse her staying. Just better to be prepared, remember this is your family / relationship that is worth protecting and help find her somewhere else to go (which is also better for her in the long run).

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