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The ex wife wants him back..

233 replies

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 14:40

Hi all, I was just hoping for some words of wisdom on how to deal with this situation because it is very raw and I feel very emotional. Please look at this objectively and I ask that the first response isn't "throw this one back" I just need some advice on what to do if anything.

I met a guy of tinder some while ago, he was very open from the get go and said he was separated but not yet divorced. He explained his wife and him drifted apart owing to the nature of his work and lock down making it worse. They share a pre-teenage daughter whom he sees at weekends.

Twice during the relationship he told me I deserved better and tried to push me away, but I told him no, I took a chance on him because he was decent and kind, made me feel like I mattered and I truly believed he was my one.

Some months went past and we have settled nicely into a relationship and then he is due for promotion at his work place. His workplace want him to spend some time overseas also.

Upon handovers with his wife he informed her of this and this has started to pique her interest.
A further two times he told me she got upset that he was going away and that he should be accompanying her and their daughter on a trip abroad they have in the summer instead of going overseas to work.

I have to stress this man has been nothing but open and honest with me about everything, I fully believe he was/is separated and wasn't just biding his time.

This week, his wife asked to meet with him after work and he went there and she has in essence said they should put their differences aside and try again for the sake of their daughter.

This prompted him to immediately send me a war and peace message with how much he loves me but he wants more time with his daughter and he is torn.

We spoke on the phone and please believe me when I say he was distraught, over and over again he kept telling me he loved me, I have never known anyone to have been so upset. He said he loves me, but he also loves his daughter and having the chance to have her back home as he missed out on the early years through work it is pulling him greatly. He said he thought we should seperate whilst he thought about things as it wasn't fair to me to keep me waiting.

I was brutally honest with him on the phone and said that if he goes back, to never contact me ever again if this doesn't work out.

He said a life going back to his wife would be miserable and they would be more like brother and sister or house mates, there is zero passion in their relationship and he is not in love with her... even he said he did not know how he would be able to do it, but he is considering it for the sake of his daughter.

We exchanged various WhatsApp's over the course of the evening and he reiterated that he has not said yes to her and that he has just said he needs time to think because it has been almost three years of separation.

When I went to sleep, he sent me a message whilst I was asleep to tell me he couldn't have me walk out of his life and he'll tell her no, the current set up with his daughter is working fine and after his promotion he is likely not even get to see her that much during the week in any case.

In essence, this feels to me like he acted in haste by messaging me immediately after meeting his wife and he regrets it.

Just to be clear, it is the wife that wants him back and not the other way around.

I told him I am angry in the way in which he has handled things, and thought we would deal with this together rather than him saying we should separate via text message, this felt so disrespectful.

I am now torn as to what to do, he is about go away for several weeks and I will not see him (no he isn't going away with the wife)

I have been proud and not messaged him since we spoke last.

To be honest, I feel pretty heartbroken.

I feel like I was just an after thought and he had absolutely no respect for me whatsoever to send me a message.

I feel like he will forever be beholden to the wife and that she has this hold over him with his daughter as the daughter lives full time with her (he only sees her at weekends)

He's expressed he cannot let me walk out of his life after consideration and is begging me not to block and delete him, however once again, I feel like an afterthought.

Please tell me what I should do because every fibre of my being wants to call him to say ok let's try again, but the pride in me is refraining because I told him he would only have one chance of happiness.

Does he sound genuine? a chancer? like someone who has made a mistake?

I just don't know.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 15/07/2022 20:18

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 20:08

I know.. I just thought he was honest about the actual seperation, I believe that they lived apart as he was always available to meet with me and talk to me but I guess emotionally he wasn't.

I guess I've left the door as ajar to say if he does anything about divorcing his wife then to look me up so I'll just leave it there but not hold out hope and move forward with my life.

This is sensible. I know it would be nice for his actions to match his words when it comes to you, but they don't, unfortunately. He wants to protect himself and wealth first, so you will always be at risk of being cut out if necessary. Or worse, he'll keep doing what he's doing now, making it look like you don't exist and just keep you as a secret. Meanwhile, you'll keep waiting and hoping for it to change. You deserve better than that. You deserve to be someone's priority.

Roseyleaf · 15/07/2022 20:29

He didn't tell his ex about you because he wanted to keep his options open.

This is not a good man. You deserve someone who treats you better.

WinterMusings · 15/07/2022 21:01

CapriSun090 · 14/07/2022 15:09

No. He has been, I believe him.. I know it's hard to translate as mumsnet won't know him but he has told me the truth since day one and there I can't fault him.
But, it's as PP said, if he truly loved me he wouldn't have hesitated. That's what's making me think this isn't meant to be.

What you need to bare in mind, is that he wasn't choosing between you and his Ex, he was choosing between living with his DD & the cost of that (having to live with her & giving you up).

he told you, he didn't hide it. High score on honesty, low score on tact!!

I can live with that -can you?

CapriSun090 · 15/07/2022 21:21

But what I explained to him is he won't actually see his daughter more as he's home every day late from work.. It's simply her being under the roof.. Which I can understand of course.. But even he saw that in the end.
He said i was in his heart woman but the wife is the in his head woman, essentially practically and easy to go back to.
I don't hate him, I chose to get involved with him so I have nobody to blame but myself.

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ZaraSizeMedium · 15/07/2022 21:41

He’s not going back to his wife because he never left her in the first place, that much is very obvious. You’re the OW, you’ve been dating a very married man.

Rainbowqueeen · 15/07/2022 22:32

Well done OP. You’ve made the right decision.
please don’t blame yourself. Take away what you have learnt and apply it to future relationships. It will still hurt for some time but you will be ok.

Wishing you all the best

Onthedunes · 15/07/2022 23:37

ZaraSizeMedium · 15/07/2022 21:41

He’s not going back to his wife because he never left her in the first place, that much is very obvious. You’re the OW, you’ve been dating a very married man.

Very much this...

You talk of his choices
You don't seem to have a choice

What about his wife, does she really know about you, probably not.

Contact her and allow her a choice.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 16/07/2022 07:11

CapriSun090

look after yourself
endings always hurt x
even when they are for the right reason

CapriSun090 · 16/07/2022 10:33

Just have to get on with my life.
He's got a choice, he can end his marriage and be with me, he's got no conviction to do that so I'm obviously not important enough to him to be anymore than an OW as others have said.

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CapriSun090 · 16/07/2022 22:37

So he sent me a text asking if he could call me.. I get messages of notifications that are blocked messages. He basically is completely in love with me but feels torn as he has a significant history with his wife and they obviously have a child together.. He said he doesn't expect me to put my life on hold for him but he does need some time to think as it's a huge decision.. He has told the wife about us and she was extremely upset.
Feel like telling him to just go back to his wife and marriage.. I don't think any good will come out of him being with me.

OP posts:
BadNomad · 16/07/2022 22:46

Honestly, don't waste your time waiting for him to sort his shit out. He says he doesn't expect you to put your life on hold for him, but that's what he wants. He's being extremely selfish and unfair to try to hold on to you. He isn't a free man.

Thisisworsethananticpated · 16/07/2022 22:53

Just no

if he was single his wife wouldn’t even be in the conversation
she wouldn’t come up as an issue
she’s be an ex

you deserve so much better than this
and he’s being selfish and unfair

gogogadgetgo · 16/07/2022 23:05

Wait. He's asking you to 'hold on'. For what?

For him to make up his mind

Are you joking?

Jesus. It can be a right faff but you can completely block someone. It's something to do with not being able to block the carrier as opposed to the number.

If you're in any doubt. If I rang my ex husband and said hey let's give it another go after three years he'd laugh and then get worried something was seriously wrong with me. And we have a great friendship. But the marriage and the relationship is over. We've both moved on.

He. Has. Not. Moved. On.

Don't waste your time on this arse (I'm sorry but he has not treated you well)

I also don't like that you've told him to leave you alone and he hasn't. Boundaries. Respect. He has none.

CapriSun090 · 16/07/2022 23:08

This is how I feel too. I just think if he wanted to be with me he would.

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Aquamarine1029 · 16/07/2022 23:15

CapriSun090 · 16/07/2022 23:08

This is how I feel too. I just think if he wanted to be with me he would.

FGS, of course he would. Do you still not realise all of this nonsense he's told you is just lies? He's a con man, and you've fallen for it. He's very much enjoying keeping you on his hook.

WTF475878237NC · 16/07/2022 23:26

It's quite obvious he still has feelings for his wife and unfortunately you're now the back up plan. I wouldn't be surprised if he had appointments booked with Relate and they give it a go starting this weekend. There's nothing wrong in trying to save a marriage but you have been caught up in the cross fire as plan B.

Goawayangryman · 16/07/2022 23:37

Oh god he is all shades of selfish shite isn't he? Of course he's heartbroken blah blah. Has he bothered showing real concern for you and your feelings after this shenanigans? Nah course not, cos he is so up his own hole that it's all about him and his tormented soul. The ones who are emotionally relatable and seemingly sensitive are often the most dangerous.

wellhelloitsme · 16/07/2022 23:59

OP.

Do you really think there is any way at all that this relationship is going to be happy, healthy, full of joy, non stressful, not toxic and calm?

Because life is really, really to short to be dealing with this shit.

Stop falling for it.

He can say anything. His actions don't reflect his words.

He's done it again tonight, he's the victim of circumstance, he adores you blah blah blah.

If he wanted to be with you, he would be.

Life's short, don't make it more complicated than it needs to be.

SkeletonFight · 17/07/2022 00:14

he's just trying to keep you tied to him - what a jerk!

CousinKrispy · 17/07/2022 00:16

Yeah I think you're right, OP. I'm so sorry, I know it hurts.

You will meet someone better someday.

MsDogLady · 17/07/2022 01:22

Capri, they are still very enmeshed, so he will never be fully emotionally available to you. Life with him would be endless frustration. Remove yourself from his validation triangle and move on. Flowers

ChiselandBits · 17/07/2022 06:39

Op my ex left for OW (I appreciate you weren't ow in the usual sense). My point is that he started the affair, was rumbled within a couple of weeks and chose her. He left his family, moved in with her and it was done and dusted . They are married now and seem happy. He barely sees his kids, at his choice. If a person wants to be in a particular relationship they will make it happen. On P1 of this I was thinking he just panicked and could have a 2nd chance but reading more I agree with pp that you're best off out of it.

CapriSun090 · 17/07/2022 08:18

I've sent him a message this morning to say after our call last night I think it's just best he goes back to his marriage as you should know who you want to be with.. It's black and white to me.. He said on the phone it wasn't that simple as there are memories and a bond with his wife over the number of years they've been together, however he is completely in love with me and he feels torn.
I told him it's easier to just go back to his wife and forget about me because he doesn't have to see me again..
He's tried to call me several times, I've just blocked him again now.
I know I'll get over this, but I think it's the right decision.
He shouldn't need to think if it's me he wants, it's an instant thing to know who you love more..

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wellhelloitsme · 17/07/2022 08:32

I think you need to reframe this in your head and also when it comes to making it clear to him (though hopefully you'll keep him blocked so wont need to!)

Stop saying you think he should walk away : go back to her.

And start saying you are walking away regardless.

You don't need to wait for him to make the decision for you or persuade him he should make a particular one.

Love yourself enough to make the decision best for you, which is to walk away from him because the dynamic isn't working for you and deep down you know it won't do long term either due to the baggage and the fact he kept you secret so long etc.

Just walk. It's shit at first then it gets better and you're relieved.

But stop making it all about what decision he should make, and make yours independently of him.

Well done for blocking him Flowers

Luluissleeping · 17/07/2022 08:32

I feel for you, having been in similar situations in the past. Personally, I would just walk away. Too heavy and too complicated. Surely you would be better off either alone or with a partner without such heavy strings attached? I know you can't turn feelings off immediately, but you are taking the right steps in cutting off contact.