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Mind. Blown.

415 replies

TotallyUninspired · 11/07/2022 17:04

Some of you may remember my previous thread. Back in March I found out that my husband was having an affair with a much younger (also married) woman. He was very cruel to me in the months leading up to me finding out and brutal after I found out - saying she offered things that I didn't, that I was boring, that it was my fault because blah blah blah. It felt like if he could have blamed me for the Challenger explosion and the Exxon Valdez oil spill he would have.

Off he went, leaving the children and I broken-hearted. I gave up trying to reason with him very quickly and have maintained as little contact as possible with him ever since, with him constantly pushing for friendly chats and cups of tea that I absolutely do not want to have. We've sorted out a childcare arrangement but the financial stuff is unresolved as yet.

Today I got home from dropping the kids off to find him outside. He wants to come back. He's never stopped loving me, apparently, he was just having some kind of mental health crisis and I am the only person he can truly be himself with. He says that he fully takes responsibility for the affair and for destroying our marriage, that he will never forgive himself and his life isn't worth living now. He doesn't want OW, he says - they only lasted for about 2 weeks after he left and he could then see she was completely unsuited to him. He admits he rewrote history and that we had a good marriage and says it was his own insecurity that led him to this. He is having counselling to try and address his issues and asked if there was any way I would give him another chance.

I am so fucking bewildered. I don't know what on earth to do. It felt like validation to have him admit all those things but it could never be the same relationship again. Not to mention the fact that my family all absolutely despise him now (and rightly so). I do still love him but I don't know if I can get past the lack of love and respect he showed me and, above all, there is the fear that it could happen again.

I've agreed to go to a joint counselling session with him, and that's all I've agreed to. I don't know if our relationship is in any way salvageable but, at the very least, if it leads to a more amicable parting of the ways that would be positive.

OP posts:
GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 11/07/2022 21:40

She dumped him. And he has come crawling back to you.

No no no.

Please have some self respect.

LooseGoose22 · 11/07/2022 21:40

He's never stopped loving me, apparently

Interesting way he had of showing it ... cheating on you, leaving you and your family together, assassinating your character, being cruel and brutal in what he said ....

That kind of "love", a person can do without.

Lalosalamanca · 11/07/2022 21:45

If you are foolish enough to give this man a second chance; please don't expect any sympathy WHEN he betrays you all over again.

CandyCaneLane0 · 11/07/2022 21:47

No way would I be doing counselling, don't let him worm his way back in, stay angry

TokyoTen · 11/07/2022 21:51

Don't believe a word of it. She has obviously dumped him so he has come crawling back.

Windypants21 · 11/07/2022 21:52

Lalosalamanca · 11/07/2022 21:45

If you are foolish enough to give this man a second chance; please don't expect any sympathy WHEN he betrays you all over again.

That's a bit harsh. We all make our decisions based on our own experiences and circumstances. I'm sure the OP is trying to decide based on what she thinks is best for her, and her children. There are some out there who think yes and others no, and most seem to think it's a bad idea given how he treated her afterward but it is still her decision not mine or yours or anyone elses, ...hers.

Op there will be people here no matter what you choose to do.

AchatAVendre · 11/07/2022 21:52

I wouldn't be having counselling, you risk being manipulated into giving him another chance. Never give anyone who can pull those bombshell stunts another chance. Do get a divorce solicitor.

DrEmilleShofhousen · 11/07/2022 21:53

I’m sure he regrets what he did to you and what he has lost.
But you absolutely need to put your kids first here. Don’t put them through him walking out on them and you all over again. I’m sorry to say, but a year or two down the line, he probably will 💐

Sandra1984 · 11/07/2022 21:54

hertylop · 11/07/2022 19:51

Joint counselling is a road to hell.
Don't do it
It will just fuck with your head even more

You just destroyed couples therapy in one phrase 😂

On a more serious tone I don't know of anyone (first hand) that it worked (including me and my ex).

LunchPoems · 11/07/2022 21:55

They all do this.

Mine did it as soon as he had a whiff I was moving on.

It didn’t work out. He hadn’t changed.

HoppingPavlova · 11/07/2022 21:56

She’s dumped him and he now doesn’t have a bed to lie in so to speak.

GoodThinkingMax · 11/07/2022 21:56

I am so fucking bewildered. I don't know what on earth to do. It felt like validation to have him admit all those things but it could never be the same relationship again.

Oh your poor thing @TotallyUninspired . Flowers Wine

But as other posters have said, he's shown you who he is. And just reading your first post, I'm thinking "He wants to come back? he can fuck off to the far side of fuck, and then fuck off some more" (a marvellous MN phrase).

But I know it's not that easy.

TreePoser · 11/07/2022 21:57

Agree, if you go to couples therapy the GOAL is to live with it, live with what he did.

You don't have to. Therapy on your own would help you see more instantly that you don't have to live with this.

WaveyHair · 11/07/2022 22:00

No good will come of letting him back. The OW has kicked him out, probably did not even realise or know he was leaving you for her.

Don't let him in the house, don't talk to him and look back at your previous post in April to remind yourself what he put you through. You suggested marriage counselling he was not interested. He told you he would rather be single than with you and the kids. Push on sorting out the finances and work out how to co-parent the DC until they are 18.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/07/2022 22:02

Come to think of it, if they split after only 2 weeks, where'd he been living since?

Abaca1 · 11/07/2022 22:05

What the duck? Tell him to do one.

NeverDropYourMooncup · 11/07/2022 22:06

Bet he went home to his girlfriend after manipulating you to agree to joint counselling. His tea was probably waiting for him.

Nanalisa60 · 11/07/2022 22:08

The question is do you love him? Does no really matter if he says he still loves you? It matters how you feel about him and weather you want to forgive him.

silentpool · 11/07/2022 22:09

Man discovers grass wasn't greener on the other side, wants to come back to his comfortable life, rather than facing up to what he has done. It's fairly commonplace OP, don't fall for it.

Remember how he treated you. That is who he is.

Closetbeanmuncher · 11/07/2022 22:09

Aww, so he thought you would keep the bed warm for him while he takes a test drive in the new model….I don’t fucking think so!

Sorry op but his arse wouldn’t touch the floor, it seems all too easy these days to blame piss poor impulse control on mental health issues.

It’s actually deeply offensive that he expects you to fall for that line!

Greenberg · 11/07/2022 22:09

Billben · 11/07/2022 18:41

He was very cruel to me in the months leading up to me finding out and brutal after I found out

This is what you need to keep remembering ‘cos that is his true self right there.

All of this.

It's not the affair or the betrayal that makes it untenable to take him back, it's the cruelty. How could you want to be with someone who's so lacking in empathy that they treat you with contempt just to make it easier on them to leave you.

I understand why you yearn for your old life back, and he's part of that, but the price to pay for getting that is way, way too high.

Lalosalamanca · 11/07/2022 22:12

Op in a earlier thread you wrote this:

"He blames me for the whole thing and wouldn't want to be with me even if I could forgive him"

Read that again. He actually told you even if you could forgive him, he wouldn't want to be with you.

So what's changed for him?

He was very clear with you a few months ago.

Re read your earlier posts. What advice would you give a friend in your position.

You didn't deserve to be cheated on and betrayed. He betrayed his children when he betrayed you.

There's a saying isn't there...
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice shame on me.

He's shown you his true colours. Don't be a mug.

Closetbeanmuncher · 11/07/2022 22:15

It felt like validation to have him admit all those things

It is! Drink those man tears, toss the cup and look forward to your upgrade from this weasel!

Moonface123 · 11/07/2022 22:17

Don' t go back to what broke you, his words are cheap, look at his actions and what he is capable of. He is one hell of a liability you don't need.

Onthedunes · 11/07/2022 22:17

Could you seriously have sex with him again after him being so cruel.

You would never feel safe again with him.

Also do not speak to his awful mother again.

That entire family has burnt their bridges.