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Dumped because I have children

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 08:14

First post... but I read on here all the time and you're all so lovely. Looking for support really.

I've been divorced three years and have three lovely children. I've been dating here and there since this time but I'd never really met anyone that made me feel like I'd want anything more with them.

Last year I met a lovely man who really blew my mind. We enjoyed spending time together so much, had lots of fun. He just felt like no one I had ever met before. He'd been single for 3 years, hadn't been dating and just seemed to really know what he wanted and had his shit together. Things progressed at a nice pace, we dated for around 6 weeks, then decided to make to exclusive (even though we weren't seeing other people anyway for the initial bit) and then a couple of months later decided to put the "title" on things. I didn't feel love-bombed at the time.... I'm so cautious and I think the fact that he'd been single and cautious himself for so long made me feel that he must really be genuine about me, as I was him. We were together a year in total.

He has always, always known that I have 3 children. We are both early 30s. He would like a child or 2 of his own one day, and when things started to get a bit more serious we had these discussions and I told him for the right person I would have more children. I know a year isn't a long time but due to both our ages and the fact he hasn't got any of his own it seemed reasonable to have the discussions so we didn't waste each other's time.

After making things "official" he was very excited for me to meet his family, friends, workmates... took me to events, his sisters wedding, anniversaries. Everything just seemed so great and I couldn't believe my luck tbh.

At around the 5 month point of the relationship, he had a massive wobble. This was after a family dinner where he had exploded at his mother and stormed off. I'd never seen him like this. When we got home, he told me that he was anxious, agitated and just not happy at the moment. He said he needed to concentrate on work, and himself. He also mentioned my children and not being sure about three children and potentially hurting all of us if things didn't work out (he hadn't met them at this point). I was in complete shock as I never saw any signs up until this night that he was unhappy, everything had seemed perfect. I was upset, but I accepted what he said gracefully, left, and went N/C. It blindsided me so I really felt it.

2 weeks later he got in contact and told me he was so sorry, that he was having issues with his M/H and had hurt the people he cares about most in the process, myself and his family. He asked to meet up and discuss things. I cared about him so much, so I did. He discussed his feelings for me, how much he loved me and how strongly he felt for me, that he'd never met anyone like me. He seemed genuinely sorry, said he was overwhelmed with feelings for me and when he's in a bad place he pushes people away. I do accept he was in a bad place, he has a job in the public eye and has a lot of professional pressure. He said he'd thought about the children and that it was just something said when he was trying to push me away.

Since this time things seemed to go from strength to strength, we were closer than ever. I told him I was happy to take it slow with the children, however a month later he pushed to meet them. Everything went well, however have still be taking it slow. I have 50:50 so plenty of time together on our own. We ended up staying together 2 weeks of the month and beginning to live a lovely little normal life together. He invited the children and I to events and things in his life. A couple of months ago he asked for his parents to meet the children. I let him know I was wary of this, however he reassured me and said it meant a lot to him, so I went a long with it. Through all his words and actions I really, truly thought he was genuine. He told me he was "all in", and how happy he was. He only a few weeks ago told me he wanted my children to know he "wasn't just a friend".

A 2 weeks ago, he began to go into a bad place mentally again. He decided to take a break from work for mental health, it looks like his career may be at an end and it's hitting him hard. I was so worried about him, and I've tried to support him however I can. I had a bit of anxiety surround the last time he struggled with his mental health, how I was essentially "cut off". I communicated this to him and he told me it was absolutely nothing to do with us, that he is so happy personally and that it is just work. He told me he never wanted to be apart from me ever, and that he needed to get himself better.

However- here we are. He ended things, again. I went to see him at the start of the week. He told me how much he loves me, how he knows he will never meet anyone like me, how great our relationship is. His reason for ending it was because of the children, that he just "can't get his head to accept it", and worries about the future and having potentially 4 or 5 little ones to take care of. He cried and cried and cried when he told me this. He said he will love me for a "long long time" and knew that breaking up with me would push him into an even darker place, however ultimately he didn't think it was fair on me to continue when this is in the back of his mind.

I accepted this, however I did ask him why he has chosen to continue the relationship, allow things to get more serious (in fact push for things to be more serious himself), if he wasn't quite sure. Again, he has always known I've got children and has had a few opportunities to opt out now, including at 5 months in. He didn't need to come back and could have left things and let me move on. He told me that he felt so strongly and deeply about me that he felt he needed to give it a fair chance. I asked if he'd had these feelings for long (as again, I had no indication) and he admitted that it had only been since he mental health went down hill a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously I'm blindsided and devastated again, I love and care for this man so so much. But of course I know if I am to meet someone it needs to be someone who can accept that part of my life. He's continued to text me since, telling me how much he loves me. I don't want to hold out hope of patching things up again, as I know if we did I couldn't keep going through this potentially every so many months.

How do I begin to feel better? I'm struggling with the thought of trusting anyone or ever letting another person in again. I also miss him so much already. I am properly heartbroken. Part of me feels the children is an easy reason to end things, as it's not something I can change, part of me feels like he is using it as a reason to push me away again, however I need to accept it.

OP posts:
SistersRdoingit4themselves · 25/06/2022 12:15

Im sorry Op but I think this guy is full of shit.
If he loved you he would be with you, kids or not.
Mental health issues you work through together. Anything life throws at you, you work through it together. Thats what couples do. If he met your children and they got on well with him he has not only hurt you but your babies as well. This is unforgiveable.
I expect he will come sniverling back with his tail between his legs when he feels like it. But if I were you I would block, delete on every single level. Avoid this person like the plauge. If his mental health is that bad he should have sought help before coming back to you and meeting your children instead of making you put your hopes, dreams and beliefs in a happy ever after.

Fuck him off.

SistersRdoingit4themselves · 25/06/2022 12:32

Tiani4 has got it spot on.

waveybaby · 25/06/2022 12:41

SistersRdoingit4themselves · 25/06/2022 12:15

Im sorry Op but I think this guy is full of shit.
If he loved you he would be with you, kids or not.
Mental health issues you work through together. Anything life throws at you, you work through it together. Thats what couples do. If he met your children and they got on well with him he has not only hurt you but your babies as well. This is unforgiveable.
I expect he will come sniverling back with his tail between his legs when he feels like it. But if I were you I would block, delete on every single level. Avoid this person like the plauge. If his mental health is that bad he should have sought help before coming back to you and meeting your children instead of making you put your hopes, dreams and beliefs in a happy ever after.

Fuck him off.

Thank you. I know for the right person this wouldn't be an obstacle, he doesn't love me enough. He doesn't love me in the way he said he does.

Several more texts from him. I've archived and I'm not tempted to respond.

I've woken up so angry today. Angry but sad.

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SistersRdoingit4themselves · 25/06/2022 13:11

Its hurts Op- it really does. Sending you a massive hug 💐. It does get better very slowly.

Midlifemusings · 25/06/2022 14:34

Don't be too swayed by people's opinions. They don't know him at all. They are judging his internal motivations and intentions and thoughts without anything to go on - unless they think they are psychic! He isn't manipulative just because people tell you he is. Just because someone posts that he never loved you, doesn't mean he didn't. Etc. People say all kinds of things on here and generally are very critical and negative towards men. You know him, you need to talk to him and form your own opinions.

SistersRdoingit4themselves · 25/06/2022 14:36

I think actions speak louder than words.

Poptart4 · 25/06/2022 14:54

It's really unfair of him to dump you and then keep texting you several times. The "I'm thinking of you" messages are deeply manipulative. He's stringing you along, making sure your still available for him when he's ready to take you back.

And getting his friends to msg you to ask are you ok because he's worried, wtaf! He clearly thinks alot of himself.

I would send him one last msg stating he told you where he stands and there is nothing left to talk about so please stop msging me. And then block.

Honestly the nerve of this man.

stayingpositiveifpossible · 25/06/2022 15:04

the app frolo was founded because a single parent had experienced these things.

Frolo has a making friends section but also now a dating app. I haven't tried the dating app yet, but making single parent friends might be a way forward.

waveybaby · 25/06/2022 15:04

Midlifemusings · 25/06/2022 14:34

Don't be too swayed by people's opinions. They don't know him at all. They are judging his internal motivations and intentions and thoughts without anything to go on - unless they think they are psychic! He isn't manipulative just because people tell you he is. Just because someone posts that he never loved you, doesn't mean he didn't. Etc. People say all kinds of things on here and generally are very critical and negative towards men. You know him, you need to talk to him and form your own opinions.

I know what you're saying.

I suppose in a way it helps me to believe he really did/does love me, that it wasn't all fake. What a pp said about him coping with the idea of children when well, then retreating when he's unwell mentally has resonated with me a lot.

For example, a recent conversation in the last month-
Him "I'm thinking of hosting Christmas at my house this year, what are your plans for the day?"
Me- "I've got the children in the afternoon, and for Boxing Day this year, but I could come in the morning"
Him- (puzzled) "why would you not bring the children???"

At the end of the day, he clearly does have issues and I need to accept these ups and downs could continue and wouldn't be good for myself and my children, regardless. As much as it hurts.

OP posts:
waveybaby · 25/06/2022 15:09

stayingpositiveifpossible · 25/06/2022 15:04

the app frolo was founded because a single parent had experienced these things.

Frolo has a making friends section but also now a dating app. I haven't tried the dating app yet, but making single parent friends might be a way forward.

I did have a lot of friends who were single parents a few years ago. Most are happily in relationships now.

I've also been on dates here and there over the past few years with single dads, however I just haven't clicked with anyone. I've never wanted to limit my choices, but I am told a lot by friends when I'm single that I need to find someone in the "same position as me".

If I ever find someone I want to feel that overwhelming love, not just settle so I've got someone, or settle for someone in a similar position.

OP posts:
waveybaby · 25/06/2022 15:11

Poptart4 · 25/06/2022 14:54

It's really unfair of him to dump you and then keep texting you several times. The "I'm thinking of you" messages are deeply manipulative. He's stringing you along, making sure your still available for him when he's ready to take you back.

And getting his friends to msg you to ask are you ok because he's worried, wtaf! He clearly thinks alot of himself.

I would send him one last msg stating he told you where he stands and there is nothing left to talk about so please stop msging me. And then block.

Honestly the nerve of this man.

Something tells me he does care, something tells me he is trying to alleviate his own guilt.

Last time we split up, we didn't speak at all for 2 weeks.

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Squareflair · 25/06/2022 16:11

OP he might care about you, but he's being honest about how he feels about your children. Honestly don't dance to his tune, time to let him go and for your own sake start to move on.

waveybaby · 01/07/2022 10:30

Update-
N/C for a week... no messages from him since last Friday.

This morning I've had flowers delivered to my address from him 😕

Card with words to the effect of "Thinking of you every single day, miss you, hope you're okay" etc etc.

I don't know what to think? He broke up with me?!?!

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Yellowhase · 01/07/2022 11:27

I think he is going to keep dong this again and again.
Yes it hurts.
Yes he has mental health issues.
He is always going to put himself first.
He wants you but can’t cope with your life.
It doesn’t sound like he is up to having more children.
It’s hard but you know the answer I think.
You deserve better and so do your children.
Send the flowers back or refuse them next time.
Block him on everything.
Dont communicate with him.
I think you have been to nice.
Take a day at a time.

Almostthere1 · 01/07/2022 11:49

Please please let this child man go.
I had a similar experience that cost me 6 years of my life. After breaking up with me for the final time he kept trying to stay in contact, saying lovely things. But it’s the actions not words that matter.
If this man truly loved you you’d be together.
Hes just trying to make himself feel better about dumping you. Fragile ego and the need to be ‘a good guy’ till the end.
Delete him completely from everything, as if he was dead, and move on. He’s still wasting your time.

waveybaby · 01/07/2022 12:00

Thank you all.

I'm not going to acknowledge reviewing the flowers and continue N/C.

Spoke to a male friend who said he is clearly trying to get a reaction/open some sort of communication.

I didn't realise when the delivery person came to the door that they were from him (I've been unwell anyway and thought a friend must have sent them...) until I opened the card.

Just find it strange behaviour after he's the one that's ended it 🤷‍♀️

OP posts:
GentlemanJay · 01/07/2022 12:35

BattenbergdowntheHatches · 24/06/2022 08:24

I suspect he’ll be back, but he sounds like hard work. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life with you and DC navigating your way around this drama queen’s mood swings?

This. He will keep coming back. Again and again.

SpotlessMind88 · 01/07/2022 12:43

It's just so incredibly manipulative. I was with a guy like that on and off for 3 years. I didnt have kids at the time, but whenever i stopped contact all of a sudden i'd get texts, emails and flowers.
i hadn't spoken to him in 5 years (i had moved on to my now fiancé) all of a sudden flowers got sent to my place of work, then to my mother's house. He was blocked on everything but set up new accounts to contact me. Hundreds of voicemails saying "hey its only me blah blah" like it was normal. He was a bloody insane!!
As much i wanted to say "leave me the fuck alone" i remained silent with no contact.
please do the same, don't contact him, don't acknowledge him. Block him. You will find someone so much better and look back and think "thank god i dodged a bullet"

waveybaby · 01/07/2022 13:03

I don't even think he wants to get back. I think it might be a case of guilt and trying to make himself feel better. Bloody men. Never ever again.

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ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 01/07/2022 13:11

waveybaby · 01/07/2022 12:00

Thank you all.

I'm not going to acknowledge reviewing the flowers and continue N/C.

Spoke to a male friend who said he is clearly trying to get a reaction/open some sort of communication.

I didn't realise when the delivery person came to the door that they were from him (I've been unwell anyway and thought a friend must have sent them...) until I opened the card.

Just find it strange behaviour after he's the one that's ended it 🤷‍♀️

Stay strong, OP. You're already starting to heal.

I hope he gives up the work that affects his mental health so badly. But that's his problem, not yours. You have your lovely DC and your life is opening up again in front of you. Best of luck xx

Catlover1970 · 01/07/2022 13:16

as hard as it is keep the no contact. He doesn’t deserve you or your kids and painful as it is you don’t want to go another year down the line for him to do the same again x

billy1966 · 01/07/2022 13:21

He's bored and this is a distraction.

You and your children deserve better than this mess of a man.

Don't acknowledge him in any way.

It's over.

ThinkingaboutLangClegosaurus · 01/07/2022 13:38

And think what sort of father he would make! You would end up mothering him as well as your four or more dc.

Gotmynewshoes · 01/07/2022 13:44

I think it's definitely about making himself feel better. He probably gets a nice little ego boost thinking about you having an emotional response to receiving them.

I'm sure he loved you, but you sound well rid. His own sense of importance will always trump everything else in his life.

Staynow · 01/07/2022 14:01

He sounds like a commitmentphobe to me, gets all in then panics and backs off - then repeats over and over. You have kids and really don't need a drama llama with issues in your life, your kids need stability not this sort of upheaval.

Next time someone pushes to to get your kids involved in the relationship and you feel wary about it trust your gut. Don't let anyone talk you into anything you're not completely sure of when it comes to your kids.

You're right to leave this one alone now OP, concentrate on your kids and yourself.