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Dumped because I have children

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 08:14

First post... but I read on here all the time and you're all so lovely. Looking for support really.

I've been divorced three years and have three lovely children. I've been dating here and there since this time but I'd never really met anyone that made me feel like I'd want anything more with them.

Last year I met a lovely man who really blew my mind. We enjoyed spending time together so much, had lots of fun. He just felt like no one I had ever met before. He'd been single for 3 years, hadn't been dating and just seemed to really know what he wanted and had his shit together. Things progressed at a nice pace, we dated for around 6 weeks, then decided to make to exclusive (even though we weren't seeing other people anyway for the initial bit) and then a couple of months later decided to put the "title" on things. I didn't feel love-bombed at the time.... I'm so cautious and I think the fact that he'd been single and cautious himself for so long made me feel that he must really be genuine about me, as I was him. We were together a year in total.

He has always, always known that I have 3 children. We are both early 30s. He would like a child or 2 of his own one day, and when things started to get a bit more serious we had these discussions and I told him for the right person I would have more children. I know a year isn't a long time but due to both our ages and the fact he hasn't got any of his own it seemed reasonable to have the discussions so we didn't waste each other's time.

After making things "official" he was very excited for me to meet his family, friends, workmates... took me to events, his sisters wedding, anniversaries. Everything just seemed so great and I couldn't believe my luck tbh.

At around the 5 month point of the relationship, he had a massive wobble. This was after a family dinner where he had exploded at his mother and stormed off. I'd never seen him like this. When we got home, he told me that he was anxious, agitated and just not happy at the moment. He said he needed to concentrate on work, and himself. He also mentioned my children and not being sure about three children and potentially hurting all of us if things didn't work out (he hadn't met them at this point). I was in complete shock as I never saw any signs up until this night that he was unhappy, everything had seemed perfect. I was upset, but I accepted what he said gracefully, left, and went N/C. It blindsided me so I really felt it.

2 weeks later he got in contact and told me he was so sorry, that he was having issues with his M/H and had hurt the people he cares about most in the process, myself and his family. He asked to meet up and discuss things. I cared about him so much, so I did. He discussed his feelings for me, how much he loved me and how strongly he felt for me, that he'd never met anyone like me. He seemed genuinely sorry, said he was overwhelmed with feelings for me and when he's in a bad place he pushes people away. I do accept he was in a bad place, he has a job in the public eye and has a lot of professional pressure. He said he'd thought about the children and that it was just something said when he was trying to push me away.

Since this time things seemed to go from strength to strength, we were closer than ever. I told him I was happy to take it slow with the children, however a month later he pushed to meet them. Everything went well, however have still be taking it slow. I have 50:50 so plenty of time together on our own. We ended up staying together 2 weeks of the month and beginning to live a lovely little normal life together. He invited the children and I to events and things in his life. A couple of months ago he asked for his parents to meet the children. I let him know I was wary of this, however he reassured me and said it meant a lot to him, so I went a long with it. Through all his words and actions I really, truly thought he was genuine. He told me he was "all in", and how happy he was. He only a few weeks ago told me he wanted my children to know he "wasn't just a friend".

A 2 weeks ago, he began to go into a bad place mentally again. He decided to take a break from work for mental health, it looks like his career may be at an end and it's hitting him hard. I was so worried about him, and I've tried to support him however I can. I had a bit of anxiety surround the last time he struggled with his mental health, how I was essentially "cut off". I communicated this to him and he told me it was absolutely nothing to do with us, that he is so happy personally and that it is just work. He told me he never wanted to be apart from me ever, and that he needed to get himself better.

However- here we are. He ended things, again. I went to see him at the start of the week. He told me how much he loves me, how he knows he will never meet anyone like me, how great our relationship is. His reason for ending it was because of the children, that he just "can't get his head to accept it", and worries about the future and having potentially 4 or 5 little ones to take care of. He cried and cried and cried when he told me this. He said he will love me for a "long long time" and knew that breaking up with me would push him into an even darker place, however ultimately he didn't think it was fair on me to continue when this is in the back of his mind.

I accepted this, however I did ask him why he has chosen to continue the relationship, allow things to get more serious (in fact push for things to be more serious himself), if he wasn't quite sure. Again, he has always known I've got children and has had a few opportunities to opt out now, including at 5 months in. He didn't need to come back and could have left things and let me move on. He told me that he felt so strongly and deeply about me that he felt he needed to give it a fair chance. I asked if he'd had these feelings for long (as again, I had no indication) and he admitted that it had only been since he mental health went down hill a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously I'm blindsided and devastated again, I love and care for this man so so much. But of course I know if I am to meet someone it needs to be someone who can accept that part of my life. He's continued to text me since, telling me how much he loves me. I don't want to hold out hope of patching things up again, as I know if we did I couldn't keep going through this potentially every so many months.

How do I begin to feel better? I'm struggling with the thought of trusting anyone or ever letting another person in again. I also miss him so much already. I am properly heartbroken. Part of me feels the children is an easy reason to end things, as it's not something I can change, part of me feels like he is using it as a reason to push me away again, however I need to accept it.

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:31

Lili132 · 24/06/2022 09:27

If he wants 2 of his own children that will make it 5 children all together to house, feed etc. For you it would be difficult to work or you would have to spend what you earn on childcare and if you have your kids 50/50 then you're not getting a lot of maintenance? Unless a man is really settled financially etc it's a lot to take on. Then there are all logistics of running a big family - not everyone is made for that.

You would be way more suited with someone who already has children or someone who can afford and likes the idea of big family.

It's a shame he was so indecisive about the relationship and I can completely get why you feel hurt and confused but it's better to let him go now then suffer later.

I agree. We are both fairly wealthy though, I hate saying that and it isn't a boast. Finances wouldn't be an issue in that aspect.

He clearly just doesn't love me enough.

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LooseGoose22 · 24/06/2022 09:31

Tiani4 · 24/06/2022 09:26

It's hard going but it's best you focus on recovering from end of the relationship and block him. Tell him it's fully over, Stop listening to him or reading his "but I love you" texts, his emotional journey now is nothing to do with you.
He's not sure about your children, you have children, end of.

Whatever you thought he was, he isn't. He isn't the man for you as he is hurting your children, by insisting on meeting them, playing happy families, introducing them to his family and then saying he can't do it, breaking their mums heart with all this backwards and forwards because "he loves you but isn't sure he can do children" Those children you had all along. .

So ultimately he feels, He can't do children - actually they are little individuals who are your world- he's done this twice to your children now in a year.

The future with him (even if he wants to come back) will be full of these let downs and his breaking it off letting you and your children down. He lies. He tells you what he thinks you want to hear as he gets carried away, he's not genuine nor an emotionally mature man . There are genuine down to earth men out there. You'll find one right for you who doesn't send your lives into a roller coaster.

You know what? It isn't what normal people do. He simply isn't cut out to be a parent or a step parent. You'll find a great person who is.

This.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:34

Tiani4 · 24/06/2022 09:26

It's hard going but it's best you focus on recovering from end of the relationship and block him. Tell him it's fully over, Stop listening to him or reading his "but I love you" texts, his emotional journey now is nothing to do with you.
He's not sure about your children, you have children, end of.

Whatever you thought he was, he isn't. He isn't the man for you as he is hurting your children, by insisting on meeting them, playing happy families, introducing them to his family and then saying he can't do it, breaking their mums heart with all this backwards and forwards because "he loves you but isn't sure he can do children" Those children you had all along. .

So ultimately he feels, He can't do children - actually they are little individuals who are your world- he's done this twice to your children now in a year.

The future with him (even if he wants to come back) will be full of these let downs and his breaking it off letting you and your children down. He lies. He tells you what he thinks you want to hear as he gets carried away, he's not genuine nor an emotionally mature man . There are genuine down to earth men out there. You'll find one right for you who doesn't send your lives into a roller coaster.

You know what? It isn't what normal people do. He simply isn't cut out to be a parent or a step parent. You'll find a great person who is.

I agree. Before I met him I was in a happy place and when we met I thought I was ready to have someone in my life. He said and did all the right things for the most part, besides the MH issues.

I'm angry at myself that I've let someone into my life, who has now broken my heart and set me back. I'm angry that I let him be around my children. Never again.

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Tiani4 · 24/06/2022 09:36

@waveybaby
You need to stop feeling sorry for him and 'trying to understand his struggles'

Get angry.

He has treated you and your children selfishly and badly. And he's still trying to. All these manipulative texts, he knows they'll be upsetting you so why send them? Telling you your children are the problem for him. What an immature jerk.

As a Mum of 3 DCs myself, I would be FUMING about the games he's been playing drawing my children and I in to his pretend world. He's a 30+ year old man!!

"Dear ..
We are full over. You are not the man for me and I will not change my mind. I do not wish to be involved in these games you are playing. Please do not contact me again. I am blocking your number. Waveybaby"

Tiani4 · 24/06/2022 09:40

Sorry @waveybaby we cross posted.

Good I am glad you are angry at him
I understand you feel angry at yourself, but don't be too hard on yourself as he sounds like a master manipulator. You got taken in by an expert. You'll weed out the disingenuine immature jerks quicker next time.

Good luck

By the way I think my suggested text reply is a mike drop text. Hope you send him something like that.

You'll forget him soon enough in a few months....

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:44

Tiani4 · 24/06/2022 09:40

Sorry @waveybaby we cross posted.

Good I am glad you are angry at him
I understand you feel angry at yourself, but don't be too hard on yourself as he sounds like a master manipulator. You got taken in by an expert. You'll weed out the disingenuine immature jerks quicker next time.

Good luck

By the way I think my suggested text reply is a mike drop text. Hope you send him something like that.

You'll forget him soon enough in a few months....

I am angry.

I suppose the hard thing for me to get my head around is the fact that I really didn't suspect he was a "player" or manipulator at all. I based this all on how long he'd been single, how sure he seems to be about what he wanted.

Hindsight is a bitch.

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:47

To add- I get along really well with his friends. A few of them have text me to say how sorry they are that it hasn't worked out, that they are really sad for us and shocked. Saying it's hard for them to see him in such a bad place.

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:53

Andddd.... he's literally just text me.

"I'm thinking of you ❤️"

Getting angrier by the minute.

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Luredbyapomegranate · 24/06/2022 09:53

Sorry you've experienced this.

I think he will be back too, but I also think he'll go again, and again. He is not emotionally stable and/or he is stuck in a younger life stage, plus the fact he doesn't want 3 step kids - the latter is actually more reasonable (and obviously not personal).

It isn't good for you or your kids to have this guy in and out. It's going to be painful for a bit, but honestly block and move on.

Pippinbird · 24/06/2022 09:59

Honestly, this isn’t about the kids. Please know that. Don’t for a second believe your relationship is ending because you are a mother to 3 kids.

The truth is he clearly suffers from MH issues. He will have suffered from them before he met you and after. He is obviously unable to cope with everyday life. He takes leaps and bounds and imagines scenarios that cause him great stress. But he will do this with other aspects of his life too- his work, friendships, financial issues etc etc

I agree with PPs that said he will probably be back. OP for yourself and your kids, you can’t take him back. You will be on an endless rollercoaster and its not fair to expose the kids to that.

If you both decided to get back together, then my advice would be that he has no contact with the kids. That is is a relationship that exists outside of your family unit. But I think you’re just better off without him OP 💐

Mindymomo · 24/06/2022 10:06

I am so sorry for all of you, children included.

cottagegardenflower · 24/06/2022 10:06

Block and delete. You and your DC do not need to carry him and his issues.

Bananarama21 · 24/06/2022 10:09

How young are your dc? The thought of potentially being involved in parenting young children not your is very draughting, sounds like the reality hit.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 10:11

Bananarama21 · 24/06/2022 10:09

How young are your dc? The thought of potentially being involved in parenting young children not your is very draughting, sounds like the reality hit.

12, 9 and 6.

As I said previously I have 50/50 custody and my kids dad is great, a really good Dad. We were married but got together young and the relationship just ran it's course where neither were happy.

I 100% appreciate that 3 children is a lot to comprehend for any man.

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thefamilyupstairs · 24/06/2022 10:18

OP it's him, not you. He has MH issues and unless you want to live with this in love/it's all too much drama forever more then you need to block him (because he will continue to message you!) and move on. You or your dc don't need this level of drama.

WhereYouLeftIt · 24/06/2022 10:24

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 09:47

To add- I get along really well with his friends. A few of them have text me to say how sorry they are that it hasn't worked out, that they are really sad for us and shocked. Saying it's hard for them to see him in such a bad place.

"He's continued to text me since, telling me how much he loves me."

Put a stop to that right now. Block his number NOW. And block the friends too. He's manipulating you and they're manipulating you by proxy. "Hard for them to see him in such a bad place" my arse! It's all about them, eh? Not you. Block the lot of them.

TheDuchessOfMN · 24/06/2022 10:26

Count yourself lucky that your kids didn’t get too close to him and feel his rejection too.

I know someone (female) who behaves in the exact same way as this man; she ends relationships, has outburst at those close to her, before crawling back and saying she pushes people away when her MH is low. It’s quite manipulative IMO.

Maybe that’s true, but it’s absolutely exhausting for you, and you’ll be walking on eggshells for the rest of your life wondering when he’s going to do the same again. You don’t deserve that. You’re already a mother to 3 children, you don’t need the burden of this man too, irrespective of how much you care about him. Put yourself and your children first.

Fatarseflanagan09 · 24/06/2022 10:30

Seems to me that he wants to come first in the relationship and can’t accept that your children will always come before him, you’ve enough on your plate without this drama queen, he needs to grow up, you don’t need his baggage and his problems because it’s going to impact on your children’s happiness.

oopsfellover · 24/06/2022 10:30

Sorry you’re going through all this OP. My instinct is that you’ve dodged a bullet though.

LooseGoose22 · 24/06/2022 10:30

Pippinbird · 24/06/2022 09:59

Honestly, this isn’t about the kids. Please know that. Don’t for a second believe your relationship is ending because you are a mother to 3 kids.

The truth is he clearly suffers from MH issues. He will have suffered from them before he met you and after. He is obviously unable to cope with everyday life. He takes leaps and bounds and imagines scenarios that cause him great stress. But he will do this with other aspects of his life too- his work, friendships, financial issues etc etc

I agree with PPs that said he will probably be back. OP for yourself and your kids, you can’t take him back. You will be on an endless rollercoaster and its not fair to expose the kids to that.

If you both decided to get back together, then my advice would be that he has no contact with the kids. That is is a relationship that exists outside of your family unit. But I think you’re just better off without him OP 💐

Agree with this.

I think think he'd be a flaky bastard on any relationship he was in, regardless of kids.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 10:34

oopsfellover · 24/06/2022 10:30

Sorry you’re going through all this OP. My instinct is that you’ve dodged a bullet though.

Having all your responses is helping so much, thank you 🥺

It's hard to see the wood from the trees when you feel in love, but it is really helping me reading all these replies.

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Northernsoullover · 24/06/2022 10:34

FoiledByTheInsect · 24/06/2022 08:43

Your kids are massively important, whereas his mother's opinion about who her adult son is dating is not. But any new relationship with 3 young kids is going to be more hassle than it's worth, so don't stress or keep thinking what if.

End it, block, forget men till the dc are late teens.

Fgs you don't need to live like a nun until your kids are late teens. I'd certainly bail sooner though. You can still date.

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 24/06/2022 10:35

As hard as it is, block and forget about him.

He’ll torture you for as long as you let him with the “I love you but …” “miss you so much babe” “thinking of you” nonsense.

He’s not the one for you, you’ve got 3 kids to look after and set an example for, not to worry about some indecisive bloke’s mental health issues.

I’m sorry.

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 24/06/2022 10:38

its not about you or your kids, it’s about him.
And many other men who would have issues to commit to a relationship with 3 children already involved. Most of them never stood next to a child, let alone lived with one.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 10:38

@LooseGoose22

I agree he probably would. And I deep down have my doubts in hindsight given how he's treated me, if he is actually capable of having a family- despite saying he wants it.

His 2 year relationship he bailed on when she wanted commitment such as moving in, speaking of getting married and future things. He was only 21 so I kind of can't blame him for not being ready.

The 18 month relationship he was cheated on, and the woman very quickly had a baby with the other man. The other man was someone she had been with for a couple of years prior to their relationship, and I think the cheating and sneaking around hurt him a lot. Which is why he's stayed single to "work on himself". I also think he idealised this relationship at the time, as he was in a great place with work, so much that he couldn't see at the time what was going on.

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