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Dumped because I have children

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 08:14

First post... but I read on here all the time and you're all so lovely. Looking for support really.

I've been divorced three years and have three lovely children. I've been dating here and there since this time but I'd never really met anyone that made me feel like I'd want anything more with them.

Last year I met a lovely man who really blew my mind. We enjoyed spending time together so much, had lots of fun. He just felt like no one I had ever met before. He'd been single for 3 years, hadn't been dating and just seemed to really know what he wanted and had his shit together. Things progressed at a nice pace, we dated for around 6 weeks, then decided to make to exclusive (even though we weren't seeing other people anyway for the initial bit) and then a couple of months later decided to put the "title" on things. I didn't feel love-bombed at the time.... I'm so cautious and I think the fact that he'd been single and cautious himself for so long made me feel that he must really be genuine about me, as I was him. We were together a year in total.

He has always, always known that I have 3 children. We are both early 30s. He would like a child or 2 of his own one day, and when things started to get a bit more serious we had these discussions and I told him for the right person I would have more children. I know a year isn't a long time but due to both our ages and the fact he hasn't got any of his own it seemed reasonable to have the discussions so we didn't waste each other's time.

After making things "official" he was very excited for me to meet his family, friends, workmates... took me to events, his sisters wedding, anniversaries. Everything just seemed so great and I couldn't believe my luck tbh.

At around the 5 month point of the relationship, he had a massive wobble. This was after a family dinner where he had exploded at his mother and stormed off. I'd never seen him like this. When we got home, he told me that he was anxious, agitated and just not happy at the moment. He said he needed to concentrate on work, and himself. He also mentioned my children and not being sure about three children and potentially hurting all of us if things didn't work out (he hadn't met them at this point). I was in complete shock as I never saw any signs up until this night that he was unhappy, everything had seemed perfect. I was upset, but I accepted what he said gracefully, left, and went N/C. It blindsided me so I really felt it.

2 weeks later he got in contact and told me he was so sorry, that he was having issues with his M/H and had hurt the people he cares about most in the process, myself and his family. He asked to meet up and discuss things. I cared about him so much, so I did. He discussed his feelings for me, how much he loved me and how strongly he felt for me, that he'd never met anyone like me. He seemed genuinely sorry, said he was overwhelmed with feelings for me and when he's in a bad place he pushes people away. I do accept he was in a bad place, he has a job in the public eye and has a lot of professional pressure. He said he'd thought about the children and that it was just something said when he was trying to push me away.

Since this time things seemed to go from strength to strength, we were closer than ever. I told him I was happy to take it slow with the children, however a month later he pushed to meet them. Everything went well, however have still be taking it slow. I have 50:50 so plenty of time together on our own. We ended up staying together 2 weeks of the month and beginning to live a lovely little normal life together. He invited the children and I to events and things in his life. A couple of months ago he asked for his parents to meet the children. I let him know I was wary of this, however he reassured me and said it meant a lot to him, so I went a long with it. Through all his words and actions I really, truly thought he was genuine. He told me he was "all in", and how happy he was. He only a few weeks ago told me he wanted my children to know he "wasn't just a friend".

A 2 weeks ago, he began to go into a bad place mentally again. He decided to take a break from work for mental health, it looks like his career may be at an end and it's hitting him hard. I was so worried about him, and I've tried to support him however I can. I had a bit of anxiety surround the last time he struggled with his mental health, how I was essentially "cut off". I communicated this to him and he told me it was absolutely nothing to do with us, that he is so happy personally and that it is just work. He told me he never wanted to be apart from me ever, and that he needed to get himself better.

However- here we are. He ended things, again. I went to see him at the start of the week. He told me how much he loves me, how he knows he will never meet anyone like me, how great our relationship is. His reason for ending it was because of the children, that he just "can't get his head to accept it", and worries about the future and having potentially 4 or 5 little ones to take care of. He cried and cried and cried when he told me this. He said he will love me for a "long long time" and knew that breaking up with me would push him into an even darker place, however ultimately he didn't think it was fair on me to continue when this is in the back of his mind.

I accepted this, however I did ask him why he has chosen to continue the relationship, allow things to get more serious (in fact push for things to be more serious himself), if he wasn't quite sure. Again, he has always known I've got children and has had a few opportunities to opt out now, including at 5 months in. He didn't need to come back and could have left things and let me move on. He told me that he felt so strongly and deeply about me that he felt he needed to give it a fair chance. I asked if he'd had these feelings for long (as again, I had no indication) and he admitted that it had only been since he mental health went down hill a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously I'm blindsided and devastated again, I love and care for this man so so much. But of course I know if I am to meet someone it needs to be someone who can accept that part of my life. He's continued to text me since, telling me how much he loves me. I don't want to hold out hope of patching things up again, as I know if we did I couldn't keep going through this potentially every so many months.

How do I begin to feel better? I'm struggling with the thought of trusting anyone or ever letting another person in again. I also miss him so much already. I am properly heartbroken. Part of me feels the children is an easy reason to end things, as it's not something I can change, part of me feels like he is using it as a reason to push me away again, however I need to accept it.

OP posts:
Lovemypeaceandquiet · 24/06/2022 10:39

(Most of single childless men in their 30s I mean).

im sure you will find someone more suitable OP!

BadNomad · 24/06/2022 10:39

That's twice he has let you down. He is not good stepdad material. It wouldn't be fair to your children to have him come and go like that every time he has a mental health blip. It's not good for you either.

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 24/06/2022 10:41

I'd shut his friends down straight away - either block them or tell them HE has put himself in this bad place, it's HIS doing and frankly HIS loss because you are done. Let the flying monkeys report back with them apples.

This immature clown has done you a favour by showing you (again) who he really is. Flaky twat.
You don't need his drama in your life.

Block him - you can do better than this.

hotcoldnotsold · 24/06/2022 10:47

Ah lovely, I'm so sorry.

Honestly, I don't think it's the fact you have children. But his own fragile mental health. And as much as he loves you I think he knows he cannot cope with stress/pressure - if it was just letting you down he'd be less worried as you're an adult (still not ok!) but with kids it really becomes apparent and awful.

I don't think there's anything you or anyone can do and pretty sure he didn't mean to mess you around. But he should focus on his mental health, whatever is going on at work before he ever dates again. Because atm he isn't capable of being a good partner - do you really want someone who withdraws every time there's a problem? Who gets snappy and irritable and shuts down? Life is tough and the best quality a partner can have for someone with kids is resilience. Not sure he's the right person and I think he'll always be difficult to be around with long term.

As much as it sucks you'll realise long term that this is a good thing. You experienced love, had a lovely time and so take your time to mourn. But it isn't about you having kids, he lets his family down too. This is just him struggling with life and needing to figure it out. Don't wait for him or let him back in. Delete his details so you don't contact him. Tell him to not reach out anymore and work on moving on.

You may love him but he will never be a good partner to you. It will take a long time for him to get the help he needs and you shouldn't wait around hoping he changes. You'll be fine though! Flowers

Anon1717 · 24/06/2022 10:54

If he's worried about losing his job (especially on mental health grounds) I can understand why he's also worried about the impact on potential step children.

He's not thinking rationally. Give him space but be supportive. You shouldn't give him a hard time.

KosherDill · 24/06/2022 10:57

He sounds hard work and no great prize.

Tbh the amount of time you have spent on him and on ruminating over this brief relationship would be better spent focusing on your children's needs.

Babyghirl · 24/06/2022 10:58

@DrPayne
Fool me once same on you, fool me twice shame on me.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 11:02

Anon1717 · 24/06/2022 10:54

If he's worried about losing his job (especially on mental health grounds) I can understand why he's also worried about the impact on potential step children.

He's not thinking rationally. Give him space but be supportive. You shouldn't give him a hard time.

His job has a life span anyway. It's not something he can do forever. He's done very well out of it and has a couple of side businesses running that are his plan for when it all ends.

I personally think it is the end, and he won't go back, and is struggling with that.

Regardless I agree with all comments, and I can't continue to put myself through this.

OP posts:
MolliciousIntent · 24/06/2022 11:05

Has he at any point taken any responsibility for his "MH issues" and got help, or does he just use them as an excuse to abuse people and doss about?

PunishmentRoundupWithJoon · 24/06/2022 11:10

Expect more of the "thinking of you" type texts. He's feeling massively sorry for himself and wants comfort from you, despite having messed you around and made you feel like shit. Seriously, there'll be LOADS of texts like that unless you block him. Such communications will hinder your healing and moving on. Leave him to his misery - he caused it.

I second either blocking his friends outright, or texting them first making it very clear that it was not my decision to end the relationship, it was HIS decision. And if he's in a bad place, it's nothing to do with you. The last thing you need is HIM texting to say how miserable he is and THEM texting you to say how miserable he is!

Did his friends acknowledge that it was him that ended is?

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 11:12

KosherDill · 24/06/2022 10:57

He sounds hard work and no great prize.

Tbh the amount of time you have spent on him and on ruminating over this brief relationship would be better spent focusing on your children's needs.

I don't disagree with you at all.

I know a year isn't long, but the heartbreak still feels very real to me right now.

I do and am focusing on my children needs, thats why I won't let him back again. Having children doesn't stop me from having needs of my own.

OP posts:
waveybaby · 24/06/2022 11:14

MolliciousIntent · 24/06/2022 11:05

Has he at any point taken any responsibility for his "MH issues" and got help, or does he just use them as an excuse to abuse people and doss about?

He's has been to the doctors, and is having therapy through work.

OP posts:
waveybaby · 24/06/2022 11:16

PunishmentRoundupWithJoon · 24/06/2022 11:10

Expect more of the "thinking of you" type texts. He's feeling massively sorry for himself and wants comfort from you, despite having messed you around and made you feel like shit. Seriously, there'll be LOADS of texts like that unless you block him. Such communications will hinder your healing and moving on. Leave him to his misery - he caused it.

I second either blocking his friends outright, or texting them first making it very clear that it was not my decision to end the relationship, it was HIS decision. And if he's in a bad place, it's nothing to do with you. The last thing you need is HIM texting to say how miserable he is and THEM texting you to say how miserable he is!

Did his friends acknowledge that it was him that ended is?

I haven't been responding to the texts, but I haven't blocked him yet.

I know deep down I need to, it's only been a few days and I just cannot bring myself to do it yet. I know how bad that is. I know what's good for me but I just can't do it.

OP posts:
mewkins · 24/06/2022 11:19

CallOnMe · 24/06/2022 09:02

This man isn’t normal - this isn’t going to happen with everyone you meet.

It sounds like he has some major issues going on and I don’t know if it’s to do with the children or not or if he’s just using that as an excuse.

Either way, he has done you a favour as if this relationship continued you and your children would be constantly walking on egg shells waiting for the next ‘breakdown’ and living your life around his mood swings.

My concern is he’ll contact you in a few days with some sob story about his MH and try and show you again how much he wants you and your DCs in his life and you’ll fall for it and you’ll keep going in this cycle.

This is what I think too. He seems to love creating drama and seems to thrive on the highs and lows. Leave him to it - he is too self absorbed to have time for you and your children.... it will always come back to him.

TheDuchessOfMN · 24/06/2022 11:19

OP, you don’t need to block him (unless he’s harassing you) but I think you should respond to him and ask him not to contact you again

GreenManalishi · 24/06/2022 11:39

I'm thinking you sound like you're doing amazingly at prioritising your kids and you took care not to involve them with him unnecesarily. Be proud of yourself, you met someone and you believed them, yes the going back for a second helping wasn't ideal but don't beat yourself up. It's what you do next that's important.

If it even is anything about the kids (which I doubt, he just sounds like a loose unit) three kids isn't too much for the right man, it was just too much for this one. He's not grown up enough for his own, never mind anyone elses. Pat yourself on the back as you've dodged a bullet having only invested a year instead of ten, and dragging your kids through the drama he would have created for all of you. You can guarantee it would be you and them he'd be exploding at in restaurants and storming off, before too long.

Heartbrake is an absolute swine, if you've been with the kids dad since you were quite young it'll be a while since you've felt it, it's real and bloody miserable and can make you do weird things if you're not careful. The tried and tested block, delete method will see you through, and that goes for any of his mates who try and express their sympathies/sitck their oar in. Block, delete, continue. Give yourself a bit of grace to get it out of your system, get out your diary and make sure that your 50% is busy with plans so you're not caught out sitting on the sofa staring at the wall wondering what it's all about. Engage a straight talking mate who you can call if you ever find yourself having forgiving or fond feelings about him who will give you a verbal slap round the face.

And move on and be happy, you never know what will drop into your lap, they're not all snakes, but they're out there.

Sidge · 24/06/2022 11:43

I think it’s a very good thing you hadn’t got pregnant yet or you’d be single parenting a 4th kid with this yo-yo dad.

It hurts, I know. It will hurt for a while. But every time you read his texts and leave the door open you’re allowing him to hurt you a little bit more for a little bit longer. Every time you go back and read his messages (as we all do, it’s natural) you’re pouring a little more salt into that open wound.

Just send one last message. You don’t need to be cruel but you need to be clear. Then block him on all platforms. You have to do this, and do it soon. Cut his yo-yo string. Take time to be sad and then you can move on.

Zilla1 · 24/06/2022 11:44

I suspect he's not the person you think he is and even if you didn't have children, there would be other reasons for him to justify a 'wobble' that leads to repeated relationship crises. Over time, you'll see this emotional pain as dodging a bullet.

Zilla1 · 24/06/2022 11:46

BTW, your thread title is wrong, it might be better to say 'dumped because an immature man can't manage his feelings...'

Fruitandnuts · 24/06/2022 11:47

He's trying to make himself feel better my continuing to text and probably not 100% sure he's made the right decision so if you reply and be nice he'll know that he can come back when he feels like it. Those texts are for himself not you. Inconsistent. He is massively playing a victim and you can bet he's asking his friends have you replied to them. Its all very woe is me, he's an adult and if he has mental health issues its only himself who can fix them.

As others have mentioned he knew you had kids from day one, he was in and then he's cooled off. Inconsistent, once reality hit he was walking backwards.

I know its hard but block him. Your mental energy over this is best stopped asap. I'd say in a few weeks your perspective will change on this and you will be glad not to know him. Right now you can't even begin that as he's still manipulating you from afar.

Inform the friends he ended it and you wish him well but see no value in texting back and forth with them.

Bottom line is its over, he wanted it to be over so he should have the decency of just leaving it. No post mortem, autopsy, or analysing needed.

Maurepas · 24/06/2022 11:48

He knew you had 3 DC from the start - so he was wasting your time; did not know his own mind and may just be immature. He should have known long ago he did not want a package with 3 DC. As a single mother of 3 DC - you do not want another one in the form of a grown man. (I had thought he was affected by his work insecurity but you explained above this is not the case).

MzHz · 24/06/2022 11:51

The heartbreak is not heartbreak, it’s disappointment about the dream you’d been allowed to dream.

but it was never real.

I knew someone who got involved with a woman like this. He moved in, gave up his old space and 2 weeks later she changed her mind and dumped him. He lost everything.

he said that she’s told him she had no polar disorder

I met a guy like this a way back and it was amazing, short lived but he too did this hot and cold thing. I got dumped 3 times (the shame)

ALL my friends in different countries and different languages said it sounded like bipolar to them and that if he’s not able to control it, to run a mile.

I see a lot of similarities with your bloke. I think you’ve dodged a bullet. You HAVE to block him, and his friends. You have to turn the page, in fact close the book and donate it to charity. You must keep him out of your life.

this isn’t your fault, and it’s not your kids fault either, it would be something else if you didn’t have kids- just like it was In his previous relationships..

you will learn from this. You will grow.

everyone you meet teaches you something, you learned not to ignore the signs

next relationship - and you do need to venture forth again - you’ll learn more. It might be The One, but if not, move on, learn what your lesson is and move on to the next lesson. There is very little that needs tweaking in your psyche, so I think it won’t take too long to find someone who is right for you.

OneFootintheRave · 24/06/2022 11:54

Don't beat yourself up at not seeing the first "red flag" - unless he was totally out of order/abusive to his Mum. It's fine to give someone a second chance. Bottom line though, if someone finishes with you TWICE - I couldn't go back.

Good luck, you sound lovely and he does sound like a bit of a primadonna.

MzHz · 24/06/2022 11:55

Never give up. Never lose faith in yourself

you are lovable and there is someone out there waiting to adore you.

I’ve been where you were, I’m a few years older than you and I VERY nearly gave up.

I decided on one more roll of the dice. The most wonderful man on earth is lying on the sofa next to me, we’ve been together almost 6 years and he’s utterly transformed my life and in a lot of ways I’ve transformed his.

woodencoffetable · 24/06/2022 12:09

So you want to put up with these wobbles every few months forever including from the father of your children?

Oh, you don't? Then you know what to do. Otherwise have fun with that.