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Dumped because I have children

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 08:14

First post... but I read on here all the time and you're all so lovely. Looking for support really.

I've been divorced three years and have three lovely children. I've been dating here and there since this time but I'd never really met anyone that made me feel like I'd want anything more with them.

Last year I met a lovely man who really blew my mind. We enjoyed spending time together so much, had lots of fun. He just felt like no one I had ever met before. He'd been single for 3 years, hadn't been dating and just seemed to really know what he wanted and had his shit together. Things progressed at a nice pace, we dated for around 6 weeks, then decided to make to exclusive (even though we weren't seeing other people anyway for the initial bit) and then a couple of months later decided to put the "title" on things. I didn't feel love-bombed at the time.... I'm so cautious and I think the fact that he'd been single and cautious himself for so long made me feel that he must really be genuine about me, as I was him. We were together a year in total.

He has always, always known that I have 3 children. We are both early 30s. He would like a child or 2 of his own one day, and when things started to get a bit more serious we had these discussions and I told him for the right person I would have more children. I know a year isn't a long time but due to both our ages and the fact he hasn't got any of his own it seemed reasonable to have the discussions so we didn't waste each other's time.

After making things "official" he was very excited for me to meet his family, friends, workmates... took me to events, his sisters wedding, anniversaries. Everything just seemed so great and I couldn't believe my luck tbh.

At around the 5 month point of the relationship, he had a massive wobble. This was after a family dinner where he had exploded at his mother and stormed off. I'd never seen him like this. When we got home, he told me that he was anxious, agitated and just not happy at the moment. He said he needed to concentrate on work, and himself. He also mentioned my children and not being sure about three children and potentially hurting all of us if things didn't work out (he hadn't met them at this point). I was in complete shock as I never saw any signs up until this night that he was unhappy, everything had seemed perfect. I was upset, but I accepted what he said gracefully, left, and went N/C. It blindsided me so I really felt it.

2 weeks later he got in contact and told me he was so sorry, that he was having issues with his M/H and had hurt the people he cares about most in the process, myself and his family. He asked to meet up and discuss things. I cared about him so much, so I did. He discussed his feelings for me, how much he loved me and how strongly he felt for me, that he'd never met anyone like me. He seemed genuinely sorry, said he was overwhelmed with feelings for me and when he's in a bad place he pushes people away. I do accept he was in a bad place, he has a job in the public eye and has a lot of professional pressure. He said he'd thought about the children and that it was just something said when he was trying to push me away.

Since this time things seemed to go from strength to strength, we were closer than ever. I told him I was happy to take it slow with the children, however a month later he pushed to meet them. Everything went well, however have still be taking it slow. I have 50:50 so plenty of time together on our own. We ended up staying together 2 weeks of the month and beginning to live a lovely little normal life together. He invited the children and I to events and things in his life. A couple of months ago he asked for his parents to meet the children. I let him know I was wary of this, however he reassured me and said it meant a lot to him, so I went a long with it. Through all his words and actions I really, truly thought he was genuine. He told me he was "all in", and how happy he was. He only a few weeks ago told me he wanted my children to know he "wasn't just a friend".

A 2 weeks ago, he began to go into a bad place mentally again. He decided to take a break from work for mental health, it looks like his career may be at an end and it's hitting him hard. I was so worried about him, and I've tried to support him however I can. I had a bit of anxiety surround the last time he struggled with his mental health, how I was essentially "cut off". I communicated this to him and he told me it was absolutely nothing to do with us, that he is so happy personally and that it is just work. He told me he never wanted to be apart from me ever, and that he needed to get himself better.

However- here we are. He ended things, again. I went to see him at the start of the week. He told me how much he loves me, how he knows he will never meet anyone like me, how great our relationship is. His reason for ending it was because of the children, that he just "can't get his head to accept it", and worries about the future and having potentially 4 or 5 little ones to take care of. He cried and cried and cried when he told me this. He said he will love me for a "long long time" and knew that breaking up with me would push him into an even darker place, however ultimately he didn't think it was fair on me to continue when this is in the back of his mind.

I accepted this, however I did ask him why he has chosen to continue the relationship, allow things to get more serious (in fact push for things to be more serious himself), if he wasn't quite sure. Again, he has always known I've got children and has had a few opportunities to opt out now, including at 5 months in. He didn't need to come back and could have left things and let me move on. He told me that he felt so strongly and deeply about me that he felt he needed to give it a fair chance. I asked if he'd had these feelings for long (as again, I had no indication) and he admitted that it had only been since he mental health went down hill a couple of weeks ago.

Obviously I'm blindsided and devastated again, I love and care for this man so so much. But of course I know if I am to meet someone it needs to be someone who can accept that part of my life. He's continued to text me since, telling me how much he loves me. I don't want to hold out hope of patching things up again, as I know if we did I couldn't keep going through this potentially every so many months.

How do I begin to feel better? I'm struggling with the thought of trusting anyone or ever letting another person in again. I also miss him so much already. I am properly heartbroken. Part of me feels the children is an easy reason to end things, as it's not something I can change, part of me feels like he is using it as a reason to push me away again, however I need to accept it.

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SpaceshiptoMars · 24/06/2022 12:15

It takes a massive amount of maturity to be a successful step-parent. Far more than to be a nuclear parent. It requires top notch consideration both for yourself and all others in the equation, and almost superhuman communication skills!

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 12:20

Zilla1 · 24/06/2022 11:46

BTW, your thread title is wrong, it might be better to say 'dumped because an immature man can't manage his feelings...'

This made me laugh 👏

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 12:25

woodencoffetable · 24/06/2022 12:09

So you want to put up with these wobbles every few months forever including from the father of your children?

Oh, you don't? Then you know what to do. Otherwise have fun with that.

I don't and I told him that. I am done, just hurting and needed to vent.

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 12:26

MzHz · 24/06/2022 11:55

Never give up. Never lose faith in yourself

you are lovable and there is someone out there waiting to adore you.

I’ve been where you were, I’m a few years older than you and I VERY nearly gave up.

I decided on one more roll of the dice. The most wonderful man on earth is lying on the sofa next to me, we’ve been together almost 6 years and he’s utterly transformed my life and in a lot of ways I’ve transformed his.

Thank you ❤️

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 12:27

Maurepas · 24/06/2022 11:48

He knew you had 3 DC from the start - so he was wasting your time; did not know his own mind and may just be immature. He should have known long ago he did not want a package with 3 DC. As a single mother of 3 DC - you do not want another one in the form of a grown man. (I had thought he was affected by his work insecurity but you explained above this is not the case).

He has wasted my time. When I brought this up with him, why he didn't opt out and why he continued things after apparently considering it deeply- he said he owed it more of a chance because of how strong he felt. And that he does love me. He cried and cried and cried and said that he has nothing.

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Iwonder08 · 24/06/2022 12:28

I wouldn't proceed with this relationship. It is a huge commitment to form relationship with a woman and 3 children and not everyone would be able to handle it. If the guy is unsure I wouldn't risk it. I am sure there are some rare individuals capable of it, but I don't think a childless man who has MH issues and anxieties and not 100% sure is the right choice for you

Brightstar29 · 24/06/2022 12:31

It’s tempting to be the “rescuer” in this situation but I’ve learnt the hard way with this. They may be struggling but you need to think about the impact that level of inconsistency would have on you and your kids. Consistency is key to a happy relationship x

Yorkshireteabags · 24/06/2022 12:55

Omg he sounds exactly like someone I dated. Hes not the one, this cycle will go on forever. I was heartbroken when it ended did some counselling and actually although I will always love him we (me and my kids) deserve more, we deserve consistency and someone who is 💯 with us. Doesn't sound like he is move on or you will be riddled with anxiety and too much energy will be spent on him rather than the kids.

slowcookerforone · 24/06/2022 12:59

MrJollyLivesNextDoor · 24/06/2022 10:41

I'd shut his friends down straight away - either block them or tell them HE has put himself in this bad place, it's HIS doing and frankly HIS loss because you are done. Let the flying monkeys report back with them apples.

This immature clown has done you a favour by showing you (again) who he really is. Flaky twat.
You don't need his drama in your life.

Block him - you can do better than this.

I really agree with this.

He's a future faking flake.

You sound like you are in a great place with your life, lots to offer a decent guy.

He sounds an immature disaster - not capable of relationships.

billy1966 · 24/06/2022 13:19

OP,

At 5 months you should have walked away.

I mean this kindly but you have shown very poor judgement with this man.

Why would you entertain bringing a man with clear mental health issues near your children?

Long term this would be very wrong to have them near him.

He has huge issues which clearly cause him to be extremely self absorbed.

Why would you want your children near that.

Block him on everything and take time to reflect on your choices.

A man like this could have had a huge negative impact on your childrens childhood.

Be glad he has gone.
Your children have narrowly dodged a huge bullet.

Mally100 · 24/06/2022 13:19

I think you need to put your kids first which you are not doing. You are placing your feelings before them. Are you seriously thinking someone as unstable, unreliable and mentally ill is someone good to bring into their lives? This should be a clear cut situation. Why on earth do you think this is what your kids should he exposed to.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 13:28

billy1966 · 24/06/2022 13:19

OP,

At 5 months you should have walked away.

I mean this kindly but you have shown very poor judgement with this man.

Why would you entertain bringing a man with clear mental health issues near your children?

Long term this would be very wrong to have them near him.

He has huge issues which clearly cause him to be extremely self absorbed.

Why would you want your children near that.

Block him on everything and take time to reflect on your choices.

A man like this could have had a huge negative impact on your childrens childhood.

Be glad he has gone.
Your children have narrowly dodged a huge bullet.

I agree. When I met him these issues weren't clear at all, he seemed so normal and had his shit together. Seemed to know what he wanted. When it became clear at 5 months, I should have walked. That has been my mistake. But I felt deeply for him and believed him.

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OneFootintheRave · 24/06/2022 13:30

"He cried and cried and cried and said that he has nothing"

OK. That would be it now for me. Immature and self centred.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 13:31

Mally100 · 24/06/2022 13:19

I think you need to put your kids first which you are not doing. You are placing your feelings before them. Are you seriously thinking someone as unstable, unreliable and mentally ill is someone good to bring into their lives? This should be a clear cut situation. Why on earth do you think this is what your kids should he exposed to.

I'm sorry but I am putting my kids first- I'm not taking him back.
I made this thread to vent and for support.

He seemed completely normal when I met him. I made a mistake taking him back at 5 months and believing him.

Apart from these 2 "wobbles" everything has been lovely, which is why this second wobble has taken me by surprised as I didn't see it.

I see now that I shouldn't have taken him back at 5 months, and had the mindset of "he could do this again". For whatever reason I didn't.

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CharlotteRose90 · 24/06/2022 13:47

He loves you but he’s t doesn’t sound as if he loves the you with kids. I personally wouldn’t take on someone with kids however I wouldn’t waste their time either. He needs to sort his mental health out first and find someone with no kids .

im sorry he’s hurt you but in time you’ll move on.

NiqueNique · 24/06/2022 13:51

I sympathise with how you’re feeling, really I do - heartbreak isn’t nice. You’ll be able to let it go at some point though. You had a lucky escape tbh and you should be grateful for that even if it takes a while to actually feel it. 💐

But the harsh truth here is that you didn’t prioritise your children and their well-being at all, and you need to own that otherwise you’re likely to make similar mistakes again. You had misgivings, you knew deep down it was way too early to introduce him to them, and yet you let him dictate what happened because he wanted it so badly and it ‘meant so much to him’. That wasn’t wise, and it indicates that you’re probably not quite ready to be in a relationship yet. You should fiercely guard your boundaries when it comes to your home life/your children’s best interests, and what the man wants should not come into it at all. If he can’t accept that, he’s not right. No matter what his supposed motivation is, if he doesn’t respect that you know best about your children, he’s not going to be good for them nor for you.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 14:10

NiqueNique · 24/06/2022 13:51

I sympathise with how you’re feeling, really I do - heartbreak isn’t nice. You’ll be able to let it go at some point though. You had a lucky escape tbh and you should be grateful for that even if it takes a while to actually feel it. 💐

But the harsh truth here is that you didn’t prioritise your children and their well-being at all, and you need to own that otherwise you’re likely to make similar mistakes again. You had misgivings, you knew deep down it was way too early to introduce him to them, and yet you let him dictate what happened because he wanted it so badly and it ‘meant so much to him’. That wasn’t wise, and it indicates that you’re probably not quite ready to be in a relationship yet. You should fiercely guard your boundaries when it comes to your home life/your children’s best interests, and what the man wants should not come into it at all. If he can’t accept that, he’s not right. No matter what his supposed motivation is, if he doesn’t respect that you know best about your children, he’s not going to be good for them nor for you.

I understand what you are saying. I was very protective in the beginning, even to the point of delaying having him to my home when the children weren't there. I explained to him that it was mine and my children's safe space, their home too and I was protective of it. He was understand.

I agree that I've let him take the lead. I didn't really have misgivings tbh, after the 5 months. When we talked it all out he just seemed so genuine. I thought why would he come back at all, if he wasn't? He doesn't need me. Everything he said was so considered.

I let him take the lead from there as to when he was ready to meet the children. I can see now that it wasn't the right thing to do. But I wouldn't go so far to say that I'm a terrible parent for that.

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NiqueNique · 24/06/2022 14:14

I certainly haven’t said you’re a terrible parent. You’re clearly not!

But you’re sugar coating it to yourself, and that means you likely won’t be determined next time.

Since this time things seemed to go from strength to strength, we were closer than ever. I told him I was happy to take it slow with the children, however a month later he pushed to meet them. Everything went well, however have still be taking it slow. I have 50:50 so plenty of time together on our own. We ended up staying together 2 weeks of the month and beginning to live a lovely little normal life together. He invited the children and I to events and things in his life. A couple of months ago he asked for his parents to meet the children. I let him know I was wary of this, however he reassured me and said it meant a lot to him, so I went a long with it. Through all his words and actions I really, truly thought he was genuine. He told me he was "all in", and how happy he was. He only a few weeks ago told me he wanted my children to know he "wasn't just a friend".

Read this back and think about what the underlying problem is there.

JulieBeds · 24/06/2022 14:29

So you lived by yourselves two weeks of the month and then back to looking after your kids again? Two weeks on, two weeks off?

Thats a bit odd as it wouldn’t give him real insight into your real life AS A MOTHER.

pethaps I’m misunderstanding things but I’d say you tried to pretend you didn’t have kids so the relationship could accelerate.

I can understand his misgivings. Sorry but to take on three other human beings. It’s a lot. Even with shared care. He’d have to share you, forever.

Some people are too selfish and don’t want the baggage.

If he’s in public life, perhaps he’s an MP or TV host or something. They are used to power and being feted, having what they want etc.

but you could only give him what he wanted 50% of the time. Not long enough for one of life’s takers.

That sort of personality would need 100%.

Its definitely him, not you.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 14:36

JulieBeds · 24/06/2022 14:29

So you lived by yourselves two weeks of the month and then back to looking after your kids again? Two weeks on, two weeks off?

Thats a bit odd as it wouldn’t give him real insight into your real life AS A MOTHER.

pethaps I’m misunderstanding things but I’d say you tried to pretend you didn’t have kids so the relationship could accelerate.

I can understand his misgivings. Sorry but to take on three other human beings. It’s a lot. Even with shared care. He’d have to share you, forever.

Some people are too selfish and don’t want the baggage.

If he’s in public life, perhaps he’s an MP or TV host or something. They are used to power and being feted, having what they want etc.

but you could only give him what he wanted 50% of the time. Not long enough for one of life’s takers.

That sort of personality would need 100%.

Its definitely him, not you.

Every other week we were on our own.

As stated above, he always knew I had three children, I didn't trick him into a relationship or try and accelerate it at any point by pretending not to have kids. I said in my first post that I "met" him

And yes, I think potentially he liked the part of my life that was on my own, although he always said what a great mother I was, hardworking and how much it melted his heart. He said things in reference to how "selfless" I am and never having met anyone like that. Anyone who knows me knows I put my kids first.

I've just made a real error of judgement here by giving this man a second chance when really, he showed me who he is 5 months in. I own up to that.

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JulieBeds · 24/06/2022 14:38

Also it’s odd that he exploded at his mother. Did she say something to him?

like “what are you doing with a woman with three children?”

I can see her point but still, she shouldn’t be involved. As the mother of a son, I’d be worried with him setting up a life with a woman with three kids. I’m sure I would accept it quickly if I saw it made him happy.

but as a parent you hope for an uncomplicated set up for your children’s lives.

waveybaby · 24/06/2022 14:38

Sorry typo on the last post.

I said in my first post that I "met" him last year. I suppose by that I mean dating. We actually first crossed paths over 2 years ago, he knew then I had kids.

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waveybaby · 24/06/2022 14:41

JulieBeds · 24/06/2022 14:38

Also it’s odd that he exploded at his mother. Did she say something to him?

like “what are you doing with a woman with three children?”

I can see her point but still, she shouldn’t be involved. As the mother of a son, I’d be worried with him setting up a life with a woman with three kids. I’m sure I would accept it quickly if I saw it made him happy.

but as a parent you hope for an uncomplicated set up for your children’s lives.

Not at all, I honestly get on with his family really well, especially his Dad. They've always been lovely towards me and very very welcoming. I suppose most parents may not particularly want their child with someone with three kids, but they never voiced that.

His Dad has text me and said he's very sorry to hear about us also. I spent a lot of time with his Dad for various reasons.

The explosion at dinner was in relation to a comment that his mum made about something to do with his house, it was a little picky, but nothing to act like that over.

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JulieBeds · 24/06/2022 14:50

I see. It does sound like you’ve been well and truly strung along then. I’m so sorry. Perhaps he knew, perhaps he didn’t, it makes no difference now. He really should stop texting you though.

again he’s thinking of himself and his own selfish needs, not of you.

I’d be tempted to ghost him at that stage. He’s not stable enough to trust and he’s broken that twice now. He has no rights to your time and attention while you heal.

when you’re feeling brave enough which I hope is soon, I think you have to, in the nicest possible way, tell him to fuck off.

RudsyFarmer · 24/06/2022 14:50

He is a head fuck. They don’t change they just change the excuse. Fo not have a child with him unless you want to be a single parent to it.