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Father's Day - DH out for the day, unnanounced

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19Bears · 19/06/2022 17:38

Would you be annoyed if you got up this morning to a text from your DH saying he'd gone out for the day, and hadn't said a word about his plans, bearing in mind it's Father's Day? The kids had written his card and wrapped his presents, and he's gone off without saying a word. He has taken to this recently, going off to gigs etc and only letting me know once he's actually on the bus. Today's text takes the biscuit though as all it says is, "Leeds." Nothing else. I couldn't give a monkeys, and we have a much better time without him, but wouldn't you at least expect him to want to spend the day with his children? Also, my brother is in a care home after leaving hospital and I was hoping to go and see him tonight which I now won't do.....Or am I being oversensitive. If I'm not overreacting to this, I'm going to use this as the last straw and text back telling him this is where it ends. I will not live a half life, accomodating his trips away, so he can return home as if he's a teenager coming back to his mum without taking any responsibility as a parent himself. Not to mention all the other things that are wrong, which you'll know about if you've seen other threads of mine.

OP posts:
Ihatethenewlook · 24/06/2022 09:06

He clearly doesn’t even want to be with you op. What would happen if you upped and disappeared without telling him? Claw back some dignity and have his bags packed and outside for when he gets back. I literally don’t know of a single other person who behaves like this in a relationship. The lack of care and respect is staggering.

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 24/06/2022 09:22

I really hope you’ve filled and submitted the papers OP, he’s beyond taking the piss. You’re already divorced in practice, just not on paper.

Im curious though, what does he do when he goes away to all these different cities? Just books himself a hotel for couple of days? Doing what?

HazelBite · 24/06/2022 09:44

Op does he have his own transport?

19Bears · 24/06/2022 11:08

No @Lovemypeaceandquiet and @HazelBite he doesn't have his own car. He gets the coach to wherever on the morning of his trip, spends the day looking around record shops, goes to the gig, then I gather he sits in McDonalds until the overnight bus is due, sleeps on the bus, and then sleeps on the sofa when he gets home. He's 53 years old.

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BobLemon · 24/06/2022 11:53

Did you find it endearing or something when he was younger?

wellhelloitsme · 24/06/2022 11:55

Fear of confrontation is what stops me. Nothing else. It used to be fear of how the kids would react, but now I think they'd be relieved.

You said the above earlier OP.

You know breaking up is best for the kids and that they'd be relieved.

You know this is an incredibly unhealthy relationship and family dynamic for them to be living under the same roof as.

This might sound harsh so forgive me but it's time to put your love for your kids above your fear of confrontation, surely?

If you go to the solicitor appointment and don't come back with a clear plan of action you then set in motion, it's unfair on your kids who will have to continue witnessing his behaviour that is unhealthy, disrespectful and quite frankly fucking bizarre.

19Bears · 24/06/2022 12:04

Thank you @wellhelloitsme I think I fell into the trap a long time ago of becoming blind to the fact none of this is normal. To me, it feels entirely normal as it's gone on so long. Of course it isn't.

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wellhelloitsme · 24/06/2022 12:25

I completely understand how these things can be normalised over time and that must be a real headfuck.

From the outside though, having a dad who disappears randomly for 100 nights over a couple of years and then trundles back in to sleep on the sofa... is really fucking confusing and is showing them that it's a woman's job to 'run' a family and a man's right to have the freedom to be entirely selfish and dip in and out of family life as he chooses.

This is so very damaging to them. You've had the divorce papers ready for a couple of months. It really is time now.

The longer you stay, the more likely it is your children will replicate this relationship dynamic as adults.

Either taking on your role (being treated like shit) or, taking on his role - being selfish pricks who treat women appallingly and disrespectfully.

Both would break your heart, surely?

You need to stop worrying about his reaction and get the divorce signed.

He's not exactly got much get up and go has he? It doesn't sound like he's going to be threatening or dangerous when you file.

He'll pop on the dressing gown of doom, do sad eyes, at some point threaten to harm himself saying he's nothing to live for, try and guilt you saying he has nowhere to go, say you're cold and never cared about him, how could you do this etc. But he's a grown man.

And if he can afford all that travel and gig tickets, he'll just have to now use it for any costs associated with the break up like a big boy.

19Bears · 24/06/2022 12:42

Can you please come to my house @wellhelloitsme ??? 😩

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wellhelloitsme · 24/06/2022 12:52

19Bears · 24/06/2022 12:42

Can you please come to my house @wellhelloitsme ??? 😩

Ha I wish!!

I would love to sit down with this man, who in my head I imagine goes to gigs looking like something out of Kevin and Perry, and explain to him that because he has repeatedly, for years, shown that he is unwilling to participate in family life and put anyone else first then he can absolutely get to fuck, the nobber.

But if I was being sensible... something like the following could be good. But you need to see it through. You must. It's so unfair on the kids to keep showing them this bizarre dynamic OP.

"This relationship isn't working. I've thought long and hard and it's over, I'm going to file for divorce. I am not happy, you are not a stable participant in family life and this isn't a healthy dynamic for the children to live with. I don't want them to think this is normal for one minute longer, because it isn't. They are my priority and that's why my mind is made up re filing for divorce."

Lovemypeaceandquiet · 24/06/2022 13:42

19Bears · 24/06/2022 11:08

No @Lovemypeaceandquiet and @HazelBite he doesn't have his own car. He gets the coach to wherever on the morning of his trip, spends the day looking around record shops, goes to the gig, then I gather he sits in McDonalds until the overnight bus is due, sleeps on the bus, and then sleeps on the sofa when he gets home. He's 53 years old.

What a wasteman!

Please please please OP serve him the papers already !

Beefcurtains79 · 24/06/2022 14:34

Have you signed the papers yet OP? Please do it for your children if not yourself.

noirchatsdeux · 24/06/2022 14:53

The first post by @wellhelloitsme is the wisest - and most accurate - one I've ever read on here.

My father was like your husband...after I turned 9 he checked out of family life, worked abroad, came home very rarely and even when he did acted like he was a single man.

My stay at home by choice mother put up with because she valued her marriage above her 3 children. Bit her on the bum when I was 21 - he left her for another woman. Family home was sold, there was barely any equity. My mother is now on benefits, living in a tiny HA flat.

I'm the same age as your husband, 53. I've been married twice, both times for the wrong reasons and I have been a complete doormat in all my relationships, let myself be treated like and put up with shit that most women would run a mile from....just like my mother. Children learn from what they see, the family dynamic they are exposed to.

Don't try and pretend your children are different, they don't see or hear or know what is going on...they do.

RandomMess · 24/06/2022 20:30

Just think how much happier you will be without him cluttering your sofa and lounge.

He's a parasite and you are both teaching your DC that is what to expect from marriage and family life.

Bobinov · 30/06/2022 12:39

THIS MAN IS 100% NOT SITTING IN A MACDONALDS UNTIL THE 1ST BUS. Even reading these lies is exhausting.

TheOriginalClownfish · 30/06/2022 12:44

"Manchester. Back tomorrow."
"Any chance I can have the full address? Just so I know where to send the paperwork and the rest of your things"

19Bears · 30/06/2022 13:06

@Bobinov I know what you're saying, and I would think the same about any other normal man, but if you knew him you'd say yep, McDonald's.

@TheOriginalClownfish I got a "Brighton. Back Wednesday." text on Monday. His sister lives there, fair enough he's gone to see her. But this morning I had a look at his phone (I know, I know) and read their text exchange which ended up with him changing his plans and not going to Brighton at all as she was going to be at work most of the time, and he just stayed in Edinburgh (which he hadn't mentioned.) Anyway, solicitors appointment on Tuesday morning.

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Weenurse · 30/06/2022 14:16

Be very factual and concise with lawyer.
No one cares about blame.
Take information on assets and debts, pensions etc.
good luck

BobLemon · 30/06/2022 14:41

Speaking of assets and debt, how does he afford all of this travelling???

Alcemeg · 30/06/2022 19:22

I would think the same about any other normal man, but if you knew him you'd say yep, McDonald's.
This made me laugh, because yes, that's definitely the impression I get from his half-arsed text.

@19Bears it's you!!! the penny dropped it's YOU!!! from the HelplessHopeless thread. Oh, my. Your turn to escape someone who really doesn't deserve a fraction of you. Congratulations on the steps you've already taken towards sanity and autonomy. And good luck!!!!!!!!!! Flowers

Beefcurtains79 · 01/07/2022 06:27

Please follow through with this, this situation is ridiculous and your poor kids need it sorting.

mummabubs · 01/07/2022 17:54

Well done for making moves to leave OP. His behaviour demonstrates zilcho respect for you or care for his kids. Hope the solicitor is helpful x

comfortablyfrumpy · 01/07/2022 20:34

Good luck with the Solicitor on Tuesday. You and your kids deserve better, he really is a tosser.

bare · 02/07/2022 07:45

So which gig is he at this weekend?

trackerc · 05/07/2022 23:02

Hey OP How did the solicitor appt go?
Could they believe his parenting contribution & escapology?
Hope you got good advice

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