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Partner lying about owning a house..

210 replies

Smileandbe · 07/06/2022 14:35

Hi all,

I have been with my partner for a couple of years now, he owns his own place (or so I thought) and I own mine. He has basically moved in with me (it's easier for us both this way due to being closer to work) and we've lived together just over a year.

We try to go to his place once a week. Recently I have suggested I would like to move forward maybe get a place together or rent one of our places out so we are better off financially. He reacted badly to this and says he doesn't want to sell his place or rent it out. I am happy to sell or rent mine if it means we move forward together. I presumed he was struggling with commitment and maybe it was too soon for him to move forward, despite the fact we live together already.

I have since discovered (from some papers he threw out and asked me to shred) that he doesn't actually own his property but rather rents it from his ex in laws. I've done a check online and confirmed this is the case. He doesn't know that I know yet.

My first reaction was shock. He's told me since we met that he has worked so hard to get a mortgage and pay it as a single person (as I have too). He's told me he has 5 years left on his mortgage, that he's locked in for 5 years so he'd get a good rate and not be affected by the cost of living crisis in that respect etc etc. He planned to sell his flat when he retired and get a mobile home so he could travel abroad more. He's not simply lied about owning a property, he's fabricated a lifestyle.

I couldn't care less if he had absolutely nothing when we first met. I've never asked or wanted anything physically from him and I do not consider myself to be a materialistic person. I would have loved him the same whatever but the fact that he has been lying to me all this time is so confusing. I don't understand why he feels he needs to do it and when he plans on telling me the truth. I am still struggling to process it.

I really do not know the best way to approach this with him. If anyone has any input I'd be so grateful 🙏 thank you

OP posts:
AnneLovesGilbert · 07/06/2022 14:44

Ooh no. That’s premeditated and massively elaborate and convincing enough you’ve never had a reason to doubt him. If he’s lied about all of that what the fuck else is he lying about?!

That would be a deal breaker for me and it would be over. I wouldn’t be able to look at him again. Part of me would want to know what he was thinking but you know how untrustworthy is and I don’t like being lied to so I’m not sure I’d give him an opportunity to do it again. It’s actually quite scary. Is he lying about his age? His job? His childhood? Nope. Gives me the creeps and I’ve never even met him.

Given how much he’s put into the fantasy I imagine he’ll get angry if you show him it’s over. Be careful.

Lizzieismagic · 07/06/2022 14:46

The lies rolled off his tongue op.. Can you ever really trust his word moving forward?

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 07/06/2022 14:46

I once went out with someone who lied about the same thing, it wasn't the only thing he lied about. I wish is left him after finding out the first lie

Lsquiggles · 07/06/2022 14:47

He's been lying to you for years, I'd be worried what else he's been lying about

Clymene · 07/06/2022 14:47

Oh god how awful. That's not just a small lie, that's Walter Mitty fantasy level. What else has he lied about? How can you trust him about anything?

iCorvidae · 07/06/2022 14:47

He's shown you who he is, it's up to you to pay attention

toogoodforthisworld · 07/06/2022 14:48

Oh my goodness. I can't offer any advice - but in my eyes that is a million times worse than cheating...

Will you try and catch him out? Eg ask can your name be put on his mortgage and offer vice versa?
I think I would have to end the relationship tbh - how do you get him to confess? And can he explain his way out of it?
Jeeez good luck and be careful xxx

jubileetrain · 07/06/2022 14:48

I really do not know the best way to approach this with him.

'Fuck off you lying bastard'?

cdba88 · 07/06/2022 14:50

What a huge lie. And for what?

I couldn't continue, I'd simply never trust anything he said again.

RedWingBoots · 07/06/2022 14:53

jubileetrain · 07/06/2022 14:48

I really do not know the best way to approach this with him.

'Fuck off you lying bastard'?

This.

Throw him back in the sea.

Justmuddlingalong · 07/06/2022 14:54

Tell him you know the truth. Tell him to clear out and don't waste any more time on this habitual liar. 💐

Snowflakes1122 · 07/06/2022 14:54

What a strange arrangement - he rents his house from his ex in-laws?

He has found lying to you on this quite easy, as others have said - what else is he hiding?

takeaflight · 07/06/2022 14:55

I don’t want to worry you, but I would be extremely careful, I am not a solicitor but you may need to seek advice. If he’s been living with you and contributing. He may have a claim, might be worth checking. As a male we all tell white lies on occasions usually to protect the partners feelings, however this case this is no white lie, it’s a confidence trick.

Cottagepieandpeas · 07/06/2022 14:57

Oh no, this is just like my ex, I was standing next to him in the pub once when he claimed to a friend that he owned the flat we lived in. He was a compulsive liar and lied about ridiculous, trivial things as well as big things.

It's a horrible way to live, it really wore me down. I think you have to speak to him about it, but be prepared for more lies and denials.

BitOutOfPractice · 07/06/2022 14:58

I'll bet he's still married and they are not ex ILs at all

HollowTalk · 07/06/2022 14:58

So he is actually renting that place but living at yours? Does he pay anything towards bills at your place?

It's just so bizarre. Why pay rent when he's living with you? That makes me think he doesn't want his ex in laws to know he's with you now - is there any possibility he's still seeing his ex?

When you go there each week is there any sign that he's been there in the meantime?

Cottagepieandpeas · 07/06/2022 14:59

Snowflakes1122 · 07/06/2022 14:54

What a strange arrangement - he rents his house from his ex in-laws?

He has found lying to you on this quite easy, as others have said - what else is he hiding?

I'm not sure it's that strange. Maybe he rented it with his ex and she left?

HollowTalk · 07/06/2022 14:59

BitOutOfPractice · 07/06/2022 14:58

I'll bet he's still married and they are not ex ILs at all

That's just what I was thinking.

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/06/2022 15:00

He didn't just lie. He repeatedly and convincingly lied for a long time.

Nope nopey nope. He's a bad choice and you need to throw him back.

Glitterspy · 07/06/2022 15:04

Why the hell did he give you papers that revealed his lie?? Surely he would have known on some level that this would find him out.

You can be the honest one - tell the truth and take the high ground. “DP I was shredding these papers the other night and something just caught my eye and now I can’t un-see it. I thought you said you owned your house, these papers show it’s rented off your ex in-laws?”

Sit back and wait for him to explain (satisfy your curiosity)

And then a good old mumsnetty LTB

BornIn78 · 07/06/2022 15:05

I’m interested to know, as he has “basically moved in with me because it’s easier for work”, etc, (yes, easier for him I’m sure), does he pay his way?

Does he definitely work? Doing what he says he does? Are you really sure about that now? What else might he have been lying about? Have you met his family? Friends?

Personally I’d be throwing this one back in the sea. Such elaborate lies. He’s a fabricated persona.

FairFuming · 07/06/2022 15:09

I agree. It's nit a small lie either. What's he planning to do in 5 years when it's meant to be paid off but he's still paying rent.
At least you know he won't be homeless if you kick him out

ChimpMcGarvey · 07/06/2022 15:10

Having read about his reaction on your other thread when you confronted him about his messaging other women, I think you should be a bit careful if you decide to confront him about this.

PetersRabbitt · 07/06/2022 15:10

Cock lodger…..just one whose a bit more clever about it.

hattie43 · 07/06/2022 15:11

That's quite a deception

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