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I just don't understand why he's doing this

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TotallyUninspired · 06/04/2022 17:28

Just over three weeks ago after months of increasingly distant, cruel behaviour from him I asked my husband (of 14 years - 2 children) what was going on.
In January he had said that he felt unhappy and confused and 'loved me to bits but the spark had gone a bit'. I asked if there was someone else, he said no. I asked if he was still attracted to me, he said yes. I suggested marriage counselling, he said 'I don't know - I can't talk about this any more now'. I spent the next few weeks/months doing everything I could to spend more time together, talk more, sleep together more, go on dates, etc. I could still feel him pulling further and further away and making no effort at all (he was happy to sleep with me). He left rooms as I entered them, shrugged off my touch and it was like pulling teeth to get him to do anything with me.
This time, when I asked him he said that he 'loved me but was not in love with me', and this time, when I asked again, he told me that he was in love with someone else (also married). He then turned it round and blamed the whole thing on me, coming up with completely random instances from the past when I'd annoyed him by, for example, not telling him he was amazing in bed, not riding my bike enough, not wanting to go to a particular holiday destination one time. When I stood up for myself he got nastier and more personal - attacking my personality, telling me I was scared of life and he couldn't be with someone like that, and this new woman offers him things that I don't: 'happiness, joy'. He also told me it was 'none of my business' who it was.
I just don't recognise the version of our marriage he presented me with - to me we have been largely happy with good communication, were sleeping together, got on well, had the same values, had ups and downs of course, but no more than any other long relationship.
I don't recognise this cruel, selfish person as the man I married.
He is sorry for hurting me but doesn't regret it and would rather be single (if he doesn't end up with her) than be with me and our children, so really I have no choice in any of this. I certainly wasn't prepared to beg - it's gone too far - and I didn't.
It's been such a short time - he hasn't even properly moved out yet and I am brokenhearted and endlessly analysing how this happened and why he never talked to me about any of this at any point until it was too late in his eyes.
I'm scared for my future and for the childrens' future, barely functioning, but keeping it together as best I can for them and taking practical steps to sort it out.
What's really messing with my head now is that, while he's quite determined that this is the correct course of action, and even though he's broken all our hearts, he's phoning me up telling me he misses talking to me and spending time with me. I told him that he didn't get to betray me and then enjoy the benefits of my company. He was astonished and said I was throwing away the 18 years of our relationship. I told him that he had done that and I was only prepared to talk to him about practicalities/the children.
I honestly can't stand talking to him right now. Why doesn't he understand how much pain it causes me, and why does he think I would be in any way fine with being his friend 3 weeks after he's detonated our marriage?

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Yankydoodledandy · 19/04/2022 21:41

You ok OP @TotallyUninspired

Blue4YOU · 19/04/2022 23:17

I’m reading your thread for the first time OP
You are amazing.
A wonderful woman.
I wish I were you! (Obvs have a shit situation similar). You are doing so well.

ArabellaRockerfella · 19/04/2022 23:50

These narcissistic, selfish men have no regard for anyone's wellbeing but their own. Their idea of amicable settlement is for the woman to do exactly as he says and to agree to things straight away on their demand. But your DH hasn't bargained on your strength and tenacity! It will infuriate him (as it did mine!) You take your time to get advice and make the right decisions for yourself and your children. His tears and panic attacks are just a ploy to try and make you feel sorry for him and give in! You are doing great OP, be strong, we can support you. Stand up to him and I promise you will come out of this far happier and more secure than he will! Flowers

TotallyUninspired · 21/04/2022 21:25

I wish I was actually as strong as some of you think I am. Thank you, by the way!
Bit of a snotty, weepy day today but managed to do a good chunk of work between sobs. It's almost easier when husband is acting like a demented arsehole, bewildering as it is. Today he displayed a modicum of sensitivity and consideration (bowed out of an event so I could go) and the sadness descended. And then I listened to music we used to listen to together and wrecked myself further.
Another job opportunity has come up so am at present mainlining YouTube tutorials in the software I claimed I was great with...

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LouB76 · 21/04/2022 22:12

Oh god, he is such a cliche. I'm sorry OP.

Yankydoodledandy · 22/04/2022 07:44

OP you will go through a whole hodt of emotions.. you'll even want him back...then he'll do or say something and you'll then see him for what he really is. Totally normal to feel so sad and emotional.

Take each day and keep posting, we're hear ❤

fishingforflies · 22/04/2022 17:28

You're doing great op.
My advice (from someone who's experienced similar):
Get that divorce started asap
Leave a key in the door (I just changed the locks but I didn't have children with him) so he can't let himself in Willy nilly
Get childcare sorted asap too.

You'll need time and money to rebuild your life, believe me when I say in a couple of years he'll be a page in your history.
Don't allow him to use you as an emotional crutch while he waits to see if the OW leaves her marriage for him (I really doubt it, he doesn't sound a catch!)

Yankydoodledandy · 24/04/2022 08:15

How are you @TotallyUninspired

Fraaahnces · 24/04/2022 08:26

Just be prepared for his mental health to rapidly decline once the legal wrangling begins. Read the Chumplady site and get a jump on his behaviour because he has been following “THE SCRIPT” to a T. You may very well end up having to call the police to do a welfare check or two to nip “suicide threats” in the bud when he doesn’t get his way. I have a feeling you have one entitled, instant gratification-seeking manchild on your hands. (Or soon to be off them.)

Good luck with the new job!!!

TotallyUninspired · 24/04/2022 11:32

@Yankydoodledandy You're very kind to keep checking in. On my own this weekend but have seen friends, had a job interview, done yoga, ranted, cried etc.
@Fraaahnces I think you're right. I'm dreading the legal wrangling. I can't see any way, based on the comments he's made so far, that it's not going to turn nasty.

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Yankydoodledandy · 24/04/2022 22:49

Oh bless you. Hope you have a better week ❤️

Fraaahnces · 25/04/2022 00:59

I’m sorry you’re going through this. My other advice would be to remind yourself that you haven’t done anything to deserve this and to rally your troops. Let ALL your friends know what he’s up to and don’t do a damn thing to protect his social reputation. He will be crying victim.

Fraaahnces · 25/04/2022 01:00

Sorry, posted too soon… and attemtping to divide and conquer.

TotallyUninspired · 27/04/2022 11:25

Potential good news: I've been offered the second job I went for, subject to contract and salary negotiations. Can't take it for granted until I've seen something in writing. Does anyone have any tips on negotiating salary? I am absolutely shit at that kind of thing and this is so important right now. Every penny makes a difference.
The news is obvious spreading round the playground mums now, which is humiliating but inevitable. All I care about really is that my kids don't hear anything untoward about their dad.
Getting through, day by day.

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Mix56 · 27/04/2022 14:09

Re the playground Mums, keep your head up high, they all know they could be next,
Sorry not much help re salary negs.

sillysmiles · 27/04/2022 17:57

Does anyone have any tips on negotiating salary?

Not really, but if possible try to find out the range for that kind of role online and if what they offer comes in lower go back with a "based on my experience and industry comparability I was expecting x" Easier to do by email that phone I find.

Blendiful · 27/04/2022 18:13

For what it's worth, you sound like you are doing brilliantly even though you don't want to be in this situation. You are standing up for yourself for what is right and what should be. And not everyone can do that.

So you have totally got this and will be ok. It will take time and it doesn't make it any less rubbish at the time, but he shouldn't get off lightly with throwing it all away and getting to say what he has and have you not tell him blunt truths about himself.

Sending hugs

TotallyUninspired · 28/04/2022 09:55

@Blendiful it feels like I'm the only person who is prepared to tell him blunt truths about himself. His parents certainly haven't - his mum is wholeheartedly supporting him and neither of them (they are divorced) has contacted me at all since this has happened. I was warned to expect this by a friend who's been through similar, but it's still hurtful.

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CheekyHobson · 28/04/2022 11:06

neither of them (they are divorced) has contacted me at all since this has happened. I was warned to expect this by a friend who's been through similar, but it's still hurtful.

Ow, yes, it stings. More than a decade with my ex and when we separated due to his abusive actions, I immediately ceased to exist for his whole family.

Fraaahnces · 30/04/2022 10:10

@TotallyUninspired - just think how much time you’ve cleared from your future calendar now it won’t automatically fall to you to look after them in their dotage, then… (swings and roundabouts, darling!)

TotallyUninspired · 30/04/2022 10:33

@Fraaahnces Good point! The thought of living with his mum... brrrrrr.

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TotallyUninspired · 02/05/2022 15:35

Absolute gut punch today. I took the children for a long walk and my eldest innocently mentioned that the brownies I had made were nicer than the ones daddy's friend (OW) had made for him last week. I don't think she was there when they visited but she's obviously given up on her marriage now. I feel absolutely sick at the thought of him introducing them to her. I texted him asking him not to introduce her, even at a friend, at this stage, and he agreed to that at least. I'm trying to look on the bright side that at least if he's all happy and loved up he'll stop screaming psychotically at me every time he doesn't get his own way.

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Mix56 · 02/05/2022 17:10

Bastard

Fraaahnces · 02/05/2022 17:34

Fuuuuck! Honestly wouldn’t trust that he’ll stick to that promise, @TotallyUninspired. What a shit human he is. I’m so sorry.

cleanbreak2022 · 03/05/2022 11:15

I'm going through the exact same thing. I don't trust my ex to not introduce OW. It's far too soon for my kids to meet her.

Just wanted to offer a hand hold and strength in solidarity.

You can do this!

I'm coming up to 5 months in and still devastated but getting there slowly