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PIL turning up uninvited

138 replies

Hidingin · 21/02/2022 15:51

I have a terrible relationship with PIL. They are rude and cruel to me, make fun of me, judge me, openly criticise me. They comment on our house, relationship, careers, our parenting, anything really and it’s never ever a positive comment. I normally shut this down with a ‘thanks but we’re happy with what we’re doing’ type comment but it’s relentless. Whilst they aren’t often horrible to DC they aren’t always the nicest either.
I ask them not to be rude, I have protected dc and DH defends us all too. but a lot happens subtly, and it becomes a waste of time as they deny everything or say we are just being sensitive if we raise any issues. Or occasionally they get incredibly mad, and will scream and swear at myself and DH even in front of DC. so when they’re in our house really I’m just trying to not let things blow up. There’s a lot more examples but we are now LC, with periods of NC after any particularly bad behaviour. Though they do pretend like nothing happened the next day, and then the rest of the family will comment on how cruel we are being in not having them over to our house enough.

My main issue is that sometimes even though we are LC, they just show up at our house uninvited. When they show up they will look in the windows and they won’t leave if they think we are in, so just ignoring them isn’t an option. They once stayed for 15 minutes whilst I was bathing dc and couldn’t get to the door. The entire time they were banging on the door, looking through the windows, and even shouting my name. DH was at work, and saw them on our security cameras. So he called them and asked them to come back later when he was home instead as I was obviously either out or couldn’t get to the door. But they said no, then they carried on knocking on the door and windows at the front of the house and then walked around the sides and back of the house, knocking on all of the windows and still shouting, letting themselves into our back garden and trying to open the side and back doors to let themselves in, getting more and more angry as time went on. I couldn’t hide upstairs with DC indefinitely so had to let them in, they were angry and started talking to DC about how silly mummy was, and can’t she hear anything? Why did she spend all that money on security cameras if she’s not going to look at them when people come to the house? Why won’t she let PIL see DC, aren’t DC much happier with PIL rather than just mummy, don’t DC love love PIL more than mummy and daddy…and so on…

Ive obviously asked politely and then more firmly told them not to come round uninvited. DH has also told them. But still they just turn up.
Sometimes I feel like I can’t relax in my own home because I know they could turn up any minute and we have to let them in and have them be rude to us in the house, or have a confrontation at the door where we tell them they can’t come in. I can also feel my anxiety building at any occasion that’s supposed to be nice like birthdays or even when dc2 was born because I know there’s even more chance of them turning up than normal.

I just don’t know how to stop getting so anxious about this. I don’t think it’s my decision to go no contact as they’re not my parents. I have attempted NC myself and DH can go visit at their house whenever he wants. But still they turn up at our house.

OP posts:
AfterSchoolWorry · 21/02/2022 15:55

I'd throw a bucket of water over them.

I'm not even joking.

You're much too polite.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 21/02/2022 15:55

I would have rang the police. They sounds bonkers... Never letting them in is the way forward... Let them look stupid banging on the door.

7yo7yo · 21/02/2022 15:56

Call the police and follow through.
And fuck what anyone thinks including your partner.
This is affecting your life and mental health.
There is no benefit to a relationship with people like this for anyone (in my opinion).

Alcemeg · 21/02/2022 15:56

Christ Almighty, OP!!! Flowers

I'd move house and let DH maintain contact...

Good luck, what a bloody nightmare!

girlmom21 · 21/02/2022 16:05

@Easterbunnyiswindowshopping

I would have rang the police. They sounds bonkers... Never letting them in is the way forward... Let them look stupid banging on the door.
Me too. This is harassment.
Aquamarine1029 · 21/02/2022 16:08

FFS, you absolutely should have called the police, and your husband needs to deal with these idiots. I would be telling him that they are never to darken my door ever again. They are not welcome, and if they ever pull that knocking shit again, you will be calling the police.

negomi90 · 21/02/2022 16:10

Police

Duracellbunnywannabe · 21/02/2022 16:11

Yy to going NC with people who shout and swear at you. If they turn up just ignore them and close the blinds/curtains.

Hidingin · 21/02/2022 16:11

@Easterbunnyiswindowshopping

I would have rang the police. They sounds bonkers... Never letting them in is the way forward... Let them look stupid banging on the door.
Just leaving them to knock is a bit confusing and unsettling for DC and the dog also starts going a bit crazy. So I don’t think this is good for us. But me arguing at the door with their GP isn’t ideal either.

The rest of the family say I’m being unreasonable by asking them to call ahead, PIL just want to see their GC so why aren’t I letting them in. If I let them in they wouldn’t have to keep banging on the door

I’ve tried to explain why this is stupid but no one seems to be listening to me.

OP posts:
Pixiedust1234 · 21/02/2022 16:14

Don't let them in. Say you are going out in a few minutes and it was a pity they hadn't called to check it was convenient. If they continue banging on the door etc then contact the police and say you are frightened as they won't go away. I have a feeling that they won't stop until the police are involved so time to take a deep breath and call. If that scares you too much then have a word with police via 111)? (Not sure if that's police or NHS so do check before calling) now so you know what to do next time it happens.

Easterbunnyiswindowshopping · 21/02/2022 16:15

Shut you all in an upstairs room.
Play some music.
The police will tell the straight to leave.
Bet they only need this doing once.

Eightiesfan · 21/02/2022 16:15

How awful for you. I’d be tempted to move and not give them a forwarding address.

Hidingin · 21/02/2022 16:16

I forgot to say, the few times they’ve been particularly rude I’ve said they can’t come back and DH has agreed
But then they’ve (conveniently?) gotten sick or needed him a few days later and DH says he can’t have his elderly parents sick with no help, in case something happens he couldn’t forgive himself.
they make a miraculous recovery every time, with no medical intervention, they are on best behaviour for a little while and then it all starts again.

Now I’m writing it all down I’m realising just how ill this is all making me!!

OP posts:
ravenmum · 21/02/2022 16:17

Say you are going out in a few minutes and it was a pity they hadn't called to check it was convenient.
Combined with the old trick of answering the door with your coat and shoes on ...

Pixiedust1234 · 21/02/2022 16:17

Just seen your updated post. Contact the police and ask for their advice so you know what to do next time. Dont put up with this. You have every right to refuse access to your house, or your children. Flowers

StrongTea · 21/02/2022 16:17

Can you get lock for back gate? Film stuff for windows so they can’t see in. They sound unhinged.

LookItsMeAgain · 21/02/2022 16:17

You DO NOT have to let them in to the house no matter how much banging on the door they do.

If you and your DH are both on the same page (and it sounds like you are as you go LC or NC), then my recommendation is to contact them one more time, together, and say to them due to their completely bizarre behaviour towards you, that they have used up all of their chances with you all and you're cutting contact. For good.

Then if they show up, report them to the police for harassment.

If you can, I'd go so far as to install some form of restriction to accessing your house, be that electric gates that they have to be buzzed in for example. Also, how were they able to walk around your house? If it's a detached house, I'd be installing gates there too (for general security purposes too, don't want any opportunistic burglar to be able to access your home).

Best of luck in dealing with them.

WindsweptPidgeon · 21/02/2022 16:18

This is appalling. Your husband needs to deal with this very firmly. He needs to tell them not to turn up uninvited ever, and if they do you will cut all contact. Just who the hell do they think they are?

ChargingBuck · 21/02/2022 16:18

I couldn’t hide upstairs with DC indefinitely so had to let them in, they were angry and started talking to DC about how silly mummy was, and can’t she hear anything? Why did she spend all that money on security cameras if she’s not going to look at them when people come to the house? Why won’t she let PIL see DC, aren’t DC much happier with PIL rather than just mummy, don’t DC love love PIL more than mummy and daddy…and so on…

Jeeze.
This isn't a difference of opinions or lifestyles - it is out & out parental alienation, & you do not need to tolerate it any longer.

There is only one solution OP. You need to stop wavering between NC & LC, & cut these batshit arseholes out of your & DC's lives.
Next time they try this stunt, get mad: "fuck off now, before I call the police" - AND MEAN IT.

As to the other family members calling you mean - fuck 'em. You don't need flying monkeys in your life either.

Really18 · 21/02/2022 16:19

If they turn up uninvited you shouldn't let them in. You are rewarding their behaviour by giving the what they want. I would tell them not to come over unless they are invited. Then if they turn up I would say I have plans and its not convenient. Then tell them when it will be convenient or to call and arrange a convenient time. It will take a few weeks buy if your consistent they will stop or do something that means no contact moving forward

PhoboPhobia · 21/02/2022 16:21

You and Your DH need a planned and united approach. Not just to them turning up but to the way they treat you generally.

How often is this happening. Is your DH willing to go even more LC than you are already? How close to you are the rest of the family?

ChargingBuck · 21/02/2022 16:22

I just don’t know how to stop getting so anxious about this.
By taking control, cutting them out, & asking the police to remove them if they continue to harass you at your home.

I don’t think it’s my decision to go no contact as they’re not my parents.
They don't have to be your parents for it to be your decision. Your DH can make his own decision (sounds like he's pretty much on board anyway). You are your own person, & you can choose to disengage from anyone you like, at any time. You do not need permission.

I have attempted NC myself and DH can go visit at their house whenever he wants. But still they turn up at our house.
Police.
Seriously. You need to demonstrate to them that they cannot ride rough shod over your decision not to see them.
Although I like the bucket of water idea PP suggested :)

LookItsMeAgain · 21/02/2022 16:23

Just another suggestion - why not try their own tactics on them?

Show up at their doorstep when (and this would be important) you would be aware that it's not the most convenient time for them and bang on their door and walk around their home and treat them with the same level of distain they are showing both you and your DH.

Bet they won't like that!

Aquamarine1029 · 21/02/2022 16:24

@LookItsMeAgain

Just another suggestion - why not try their own tactics on them?

Show up at their doorstep when (and this would be important) you would be aware that it's not the most convenient time for them and bang on their door and walk around their home and treat them with the same level of distain they are showing both you and your DH.

Bet they won't like that!

FFS. Please don't do this. Lowering yourself like this is totally undignified and it won't help anything.
ChargingBuck · 21/02/2022 16:24

The rest of the family say I’m being unreasonable by asking them to call ahead, PIL just want to see their GC so why aren’t I letting them in. If I let them in they wouldn’t have to keep banging on the door

"because they are a pair of lunatics who are trying to alienate me from my children, who are upsetting me, & who I never want to see again.
Also, I'm not interested in your opinion - you can see as much of them as you wish to, it's none of your business that I don't want to, & won't."

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