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Rethinking entire relationship - overreacting?

219 replies

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

I’ve been separated from my ex husband for several years and just before Christmas my divorce finally came through. I’ve been dating a man for nearly 2 years and am very much in love.

My completely potty but very lovely aunt very sadly has terminal cancer. She decided that rather than leave money to people in her will she was going to buy all her closest friends and family a gift that she thought they’d like. She bought my brother a new car, paid for an extension for my sister and has paid for an incredibly OTT holiday for myself and my boyfriend. We’re due to fly out over half term.

The holiday she booked is to a place that she knows I’d be interested in as I’m a keen birdwatcher. She’s also into birding and said this place was one of the most beautiful places she’d ever been to and you’re pretty much guaranteed to see some really interesting birds. It’s also a big tourist place in the Caribbean but loads of history, beautiful waterfalls and jungles too. She’s been getting so excited planning it all, it’s really taken her mind off the whole dying a slow painful death situation (her words, btw). She’s booked amazing excursions for pretty much everyday apart from the day we arrive and the day we leave.

One excursion she was considering booking is for a walk through the jungle and then tubing down the river back to where you start with a bit of birdwatching on the way. She asked me to ask my boyfriend if he wanted to go on that one as she knows he’s not interested in birdwatching and might just want a day by the beach/ pool. I asked boyfriend and said that it’s only looking at birds on the way. We won’t be dressed up as bushes and squatting be silently for hours waiting for a particular sight, it will just be a walk through the jungle with binoculars and a bird guide book and then tubing back. Boyfriend looked unimpressed and said that he didn’t really fancy it, that was fine, I was happy to do it by myself as there will be other people there so aunt just booked it for me.

He then called me back a couple of hours later asking if there were any other mad activities he should be aware of because he’s going on holiday to relax, not to go on some kind of Bataan Death March. I laughed and said that she’s only organised a few other things - an evening sunset sail with a beach picnic, a boat trip out to a shipwreck for snorkelling and a tour of a fort and a rum distillery. He loves sailing and history so it didn’t cross my mind that he wouldn’t want to do this. He said he really didn’t want to do any of it. He wanted to not have to worry about timings on holiday and had no intention of moving from the sun lounger other than for the occasional dip and trip to the bar. He said I should do those things on my own if I was determined to do them but he would be staying at the hotel. He said he’s not going through the hell of a 10 hour flight (first class! I haven’t told him that yet though, aunt wanted it to be a surprise) to then be dragged out of bed at first light for a coach trip to look at a series of small walls.

Fair enough, some people like to not do much on holiday. This will be my first child free holiday since my eldest was born in 2012. Boyfriend has his boys 50/50 but has had regular holidays on his own as he stays at his parents in Lanzarote a few times a year. When we are together we regularly go on long walks, he doesn’t mind sitting and having a cup of tea and reading the paper while I do a bit of birdwatching for a couple of hours. We visit NT places and he loves a good castle. Yet on holiday to a beautiful place all he wants to do is sit. The hotel is in a town with loads of restaurants and bars and he even said he didn’t really fancy leaving the hotel to explore that as we are staying all inclusive so what is the point.

I don’t want to do an evening sunset cruise and beach barbecue by myself. I’ll feel a right tit. It’s really made me see him in a whole new, boring light. Miserable did.

OP posts:
Norwolf · 04/02/2022 23:44

Bin him, he’s a proper dickhead.

First off, no respect for your relative that has to go through their last days and is trying to leave everyone with a good memory.

That alone is enough to know he is a shit excuse of a man. Absolutely totally he is excused to fuck off to non-existence.

Norwolf · 04/02/2022 23:52

Sorry was so rilled @PossiblyDreaming I never read everything. You sound like a super sweet person.

Go and have an amazing time, meet new people and enjoy yourself. He is a twat who never deserved you in the first place. 🥂🥂

Kuachui · 05/02/2022 00:24

i dont like birds.. but that sounds like so much fun!!!! who the fuck wants to go on holiday to just lounge about sleeping? can do that at home/ in the summer 😴 what a bore

ScrollingLeaves · 05/02/2022 00:36

“Eleganz
I think that he needs to stop being an arse but I think you and aunty need to stop letting excitement get you too carried away and look at planning the holiday for the people actually going on it if that is to be you and your boyfriend.“

I think the OP’s dying aunt is mentally going on this last trip with her, so that is the whole point.

The boyfriend needs to be altruistic enough to go in this spirit, with OP and her aunt so to speak, this one time.

It doesn’t seem as though that’s his style though.

timeisnotaline · 05/02/2022 00:36

Well that’s that. He sounds self centred and very boring. I hope you can find someone to enjoy your amazing holiday! It’s pretty lucky he’s not going, to spoil your memories of it.

TalkingFeminism · 05/02/2022 00:40

I'm sorry this has happened now Flowers, but on the positive side, it sounds like it prompted the Conversation You Had to Have.

I don't know whether he's a jerk. He wouldn't be the first person to have a relationship with someone hoping they'll change their mind on a fundamental matter (having kids, getting married, living together etc). It's a very human response - you like someone a lot, and you hope you can make it work. If the two of you have different views on the sort of relationship you would like, and neither of you want to or are able to compromise, then it's best you part ways now, as you're simply incompatible. I hope you can still enjoy your trip, and find someone to go in his place.

ZenNudist · 05/02/2022 00:50

Ah so he'd built up resentment to you and wZ punishing you by refusing to come along.

Sorry this has happened but he doesn't sound very nice. Sounds like he was engineering a break up. Best off without.

Lalliella · 05/02/2022 01:00

He can sit around relaxing at home. What a waste of a wonderful trip. Fuck him. Take someone who’d appreciate it instead OP. You and your aunt both sound lovely, what a shame she can’t go with you.

I would definitely be rethinking the relationship. He’s selfish and entitled, plus being compatible about how you spend precious holiday time is really important to me in a relationship. I like to make the most of everywhere I go and see everything, and thankfully so does DH. And the DCs just get dragged around!

Lalliella · 05/02/2022 01:08

So sorry I only just read your update. He is childish and pathetic and his argument about compromising comfort holds no water, you can’t compare the two things at all. Hope you find someone else to go with you OP. It sounds amazing. Flowers to you and your dear aunt.

Babysharkdoodoodood · 05/02/2022 01:17

@Kuachui

i dont like birds.. but that sounds like so much fun!!!! who the fuck wants to go on holiday to just lounge about sleeping? can do that at home/ in the summer 😴 what a bore

I'm taking myself off to Rhodes, all on my own, to do exactly that! Away from work, DH, ds2 (he's 21 now). Just to sit by the pool and chill.

Different strokes etc.

Daenerys77 · 05/02/2022 02:16

Unwritten law of any workplace: you can survive falling out with your colleagues or your boss, but don't piss off the person who deals with payroll/annual leave/rota/parking/access.

Isthisit22 · 05/02/2022 08:04

Good when the trash takes itself out.

This is not about the holiday. This is him asserting control- seeing how far he can push your boundaries and get what he wants. Good for you that you have seen right through him and know what your hard lines are.

billy1966 · 05/02/2022 08:16

Wow OP, your aunt has done you such a favour.

Exposing what a deeply unpleasant person he was.

Not just rude, but deliberately so.

Even worse.

And he was deliberately unkind in Portugal too.

Not someone you want around your children.

sassbott · 05/02/2022 08:35

@PossiblyDreaming I think what has happened here is that you have set your boundaries (separate homes etc). He has (on the surface) said ‘yeah,ok’, but in reality wanted more and hasn’t been honest about it. That’s on him to be clear.

This also seems to smack of control/ a degree of narcissism. Whereby he has viewed your boundaries as controlling him and he then tries to exert some degree of control back by acting this way. Vs simply respecting that your needs are xyz (perfectly clear etc) and that if they don’t work for him then the relationship is a non starter and he needs to walk away (a healthy reaction to boundaries).

I’m curious. Are you financially stable in comparison to him?

sassbott · 05/02/2022 08:36

Oh and to be clear, if someone had offered this once in a lifetime trip, completely free. I would innately understand that the quit pro quo is that I take part in these activities as my part to play.
He’s a dick and it’s control/ envy attack.

PossiblyDreaming · 05/02/2022 08:51

@sassbott he’s perfectly comfortable financially, he owns his own home with not too much of a mortgage and has a decent job. I do have a lot more money than him though.

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Journeynotdestination · 05/02/2022 09:06

How petty of him. So you’ve been honest from the outset about what you want from the relationship and he’s persecuting you forever more? What a knob.
Kind people don’t behave like this. Him not wanting to go to the water park with you to make a nice holiday memory for your kids is rank, how pathetic of him. You’ve seen his true colours now, he’s not a decent person and I bet worse would come. I’m glad for you that it’s over.

sassbott · 05/02/2022 09:09

@PossiblyDreaming I apologise in advance as this could be pure projection on my part.
My exp ‘tolerated’ my boundaries - very similar to yours actually. I would also describe him and me similar to you and your exp financially.

The mask (for want of a better word) slipped around two key areas

  1. when my money was ‘visible’ (there was a very memorable moment when he found out I was flying first class to a holiday)
  2. when he realised that my funds were rigorously ringfenced from him in terms of providing for him in retirement etc. i made it very clear that my finances were mine etc.

Not too dissimilar behaviours then happened. He’ll be back by the way. I predict he won’t let you go quite so easily. Be really careful.

SpunCypher3 · 05/02/2022 09:49

You are better off without him !

It is a lovely gesture by your Aunt

Enjoy the holiday & take lots of photos to share with your Aunt

NoSquirrels · 05/02/2022 09:55

Well. Shock

As a PP said, see this as part of your aunt’s gift.

If he wanted to eventually change your mind on living together he’s not the most emotionally intelligent tool in the box, is he?

Go, enjoy. I’d love to come to Grenada and go birdwatching and sunset picnicking and I’ve got no designs on living with you at any point. Most people would feel this way!

felulageller · 05/02/2022 10:18

You arent compatible.

Covid restrictions have probably stopped you from seeing this fir so long

He's a miserable git and you deserve better.

When you aunt sadly passes you do t want your memory of her/ this holiday tainted by him.

billy1966 · 05/02/2022 10:23

@sassbott, good advice.

OP, I too wouldn't be surprised if he's back too, with some bullshit line to you.

I would be very wary of him.

He's not who you think he is.

Crikeyalmighty · 05/02/2022 10:27

I think you have to rethink the relationship OP because it’s clear this is what holidays in future would look like- so unless you are ok with that it’s going to be an ongoing situation. My H likes being out and about all the time too— not really a lounger , but as it’s his income that enables them I just feel greatful we’ve been to some great places and go along with it.

PossiblyDreaming · 05/02/2022 21:27

I’ve decided to take my eldest with me instead. It will change the dynamic of the trip but I think it will actually be a really lovely bonding experience. I can’t imagine he’d sit still long enough to do any bird watching but it’s a private excursions we’ll just have a walk and a play in the waterfalls instead. My 5yo has been promised a trip to Legoland in a couple of months which he thinks is a good trade off. It also means he’ll get a week with my mum and sister to himself so he’ll be the centre of attention for once which he will love.

I haven’t told dc1 that we’re flying in the posh seats yet. He’s asked about them before and I’ve always told him that you need to be super rich to sit in that big and that it’s only for people like the Queen so I can’t wait to see his face when I tell him where his seat is Grin. I’m feeling so much more excited about the whole thing already.

OP posts:
AnneKipankitoo · 05/02/2022 21:53

That’s super @PossiblyDreaming