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Rethinking entire relationship - overreacting?

219 replies

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

I’ve been separated from my ex husband for several years and just before Christmas my divorce finally came through. I’ve been dating a man for nearly 2 years and am very much in love.

My completely potty but very lovely aunt very sadly has terminal cancer. She decided that rather than leave money to people in her will she was going to buy all her closest friends and family a gift that she thought they’d like. She bought my brother a new car, paid for an extension for my sister and has paid for an incredibly OTT holiday for myself and my boyfriend. We’re due to fly out over half term.

The holiday she booked is to a place that she knows I’d be interested in as I’m a keen birdwatcher. She’s also into birding and said this place was one of the most beautiful places she’d ever been to and you’re pretty much guaranteed to see some really interesting birds. It’s also a big tourist place in the Caribbean but loads of history, beautiful waterfalls and jungles too. She’s been getting so excited planning it all, it’s really taken her mind off the whole dying a slow painful death situation (her words, btw). She’s booked amazing excursions for pretty much everyday apart from the day we arrive and the day we leave.

One excursion she was considering booking is for a walk through the jungle and then tubing down the river back to where you start with a bit of birdwatching on the way. She asked me to ask my boyfriend if he wanted to go on that one as she knows he’s not interested in birdwatching and might just want a day by the beach/ pool. I asked boyfriend and said that it’s only looking at birds on the way. We won’t be dressed up as bushes and squatting be silently for hours waiting for a particular sight, it will just be a walk through the jungle with binoculars and a bird guide book and then tubing back. Boyfriend looked unimpressed and said that he didn’t really fancy it, that was fine, I was happy to do it by myself as there will be other people there so aunt just booked it for me.

He then called me back a couple of hours later asking if there were any other mad activities he should be aware of because he’s going on holiday to relax, not to go on some kind of Bataan Death March. I laughed and said that she’s only organised a few other things - an evening sunset sail with a beach picnic, a boat trip out to a shipwreck for snorkelling and a tour of a fort and a rum distillery. He loves sailing and history so it didn’t cross my mind that he wouldn’t want to do this. He said he really didn’t want to do any of it. He wanted to not have to worry about timings on holiday and had no intention of moving from the sun lounger other than for the occasional dip and trip to the bar. He said I should do those things on my own if I was determined to do them but he would be staying at the hotel. He said he’s not going through the hell of a 10 hour flight (first class! I haven’t told him that yet though, aunt wanted it to be a surprise) to then be dragged out of bed at first light for a coach trip to look at a series of small walls.

Fair enough, some people like to not do much on holiday. This will be my first child free holiday since my eldest was born in 2012. Boyfriend has his boys 50/50 but has had regular holidays on his own as he stays at his parents in Lanzarote a few times a year. When we are together we regularly go on long walks, he doesn’t mind sitting and having a cup of tea and reading the paper while I do a bit of birdwatching for a couple of hours. We visit NT places and he loves a good castle. Yet on holiday to a beautiful place all he wants to do is sit. The hotel is in a town with loads of restaurants and bars and he even said he didn’t really fancy leaving the hotel to explore that as we are staying all inclusive so what is the point.

I don’t want to do an evening sunset cruise and beach barbecue by myself. I’ll feel a right tit. It’s really made me see him in a whole new, boring light. Miserable did.

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PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

miserable sod, even

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PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

Gosh, sorry that was far longer than I intended.

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FFSFFSFFS · 03/02/2022 12:29

Honestly I think that’s awful of him - not only is it a free holiday it’s a special and emotional holiday.

Can you take a friend or a sibling instead??

thistimelastweek · 03/02/2022 12:30

Can you take a friend or relative instead of him?
(And have a good think about the relationship meanwhile. )

CoddledAsAMommet · 03/02/2022 12:32

More than anything I'd be upset at the lack of gratitude. I don't like that in a person, it sounds as though hw somehow feels ENTITLED to a free, once in a lifetime hiday to the Caribbean.

MangoBiscuit · 03/02/2022 12:35

Take me!! I'd bloody love all of that.

Does your boyfriend know that this trip is massively sentimental and important to you, and was never supposed to be a lie-by-the-pool type thing?

AtrociousCircumstance · 03/02/2022 12:40

I think he’s being very ungrateful and churlish and entitled.

However I would hate to be obligated to go on a specific holiday at a specific time and have every single day filled up with activities I didn’t choose and wouldn’t want to do.

Of course under the circumstances I would go along to support my partner and be grateful for the experience, but I might request a couple of rest days enjoying the pool and just reading and relaxing.

So I don’t think he’s unreasonable to have his heart fall at all this activity expectation, but I do think he should be: mindful of the situation (your poor aunt); grateful for the gift; and sensitive when requesting some rest days.

AtrociousCircumstance · 03/02/2022 12:42

Ps I would see him in a completely different light too. He’s handling this appallingly.

Ourlady · 03/02/2022 12:42

I wouldn’t take him. Miserable ungrateful sod what he is.

Interrobanger · 03/02/2022 12:43

What a spoilt entitled cunt. It’s not even his aunt. He’s just had a free, once in a lifetime holiday to the Caribbean dropped into his lap! But rather than be grateful and happy and sensitive to the meaning of the trip, he just moans about how he has to get off his arse and go and look at some gorgeous scenery instead of doing fuck all except drinking all day.

Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve such generosity. I’d be so turned off I’d have to dump him.

Take your best friend instead.

2catsandhappy · 03/02/2022 12:47

Tell him youre sad he is not excited and you hope he doesn't get bored at home on his own.
Take someone else.

Guiltypleasures001 · 03/02/2022 12:47

Ditto what banger said with a capital C on Cunt

Dontbeme · 03/02/2022 12:48

Take someone who will really enjoy it, take loads of photos to show your lovely, kind and thoughtful aunt. Have experiences and fun stories to tell her when you get back, live this holiday to it's fullest for her. I'm so sorry your family are losing such a fantastic person. She sounds very special. As for the bf, have your break away and then think about that when you get back.

2DogsOnMySofa · 03/02/2022 12:48

He sounds an ungrateful, selfish sod AND this isn't about him! It's about
Your aunt doing something for YOU. He should be supporting you.. not acting like a spoilt brat.

Do you have any friends who would enjoy it? I'd leave the miserable toad at home

oatmilk4breakfast · 03/02/2022 12:49

Yes yes take me instead! I would LOVE all of that! I agree with suggestion of explaining to him that this is a special free holiday that is in memory and in honour of (kind of) your aunt and that as he really will not enjoy it, you (and she if you want) think it’s best to take a friend or sibling or whatever. No way no way no way should you take him and let him ruin this experience with his entitlement.

AnneLovesGilbert · 03/02/2022 12:49

Also suggesting you take someone else.

Lifeslooser · 03/02/2022 12:51

How UNGRATEFUL!!! What an absolute arsehole!

His going to make this trip rubbish for you with constant moaning and acting like a 107 year old man.

Take me instead!! We’ll have an adventure!!

Hb12 · 03/02/2022 12:51

I agree with you. What an insensitive, ungrateful sod.

Huntswomanonthemove · 03/02/2022 12:55

Yes take a friend with you and ditch your boyfriend.

Inthesameboatatmo · 03/02/2022 12:56

Take someone else and rethink raise whole relationship. He's an utter wanker and an ungrateful prick.

Inthesameboatatmo · 03/02/2022 12:57

Rethink the whole *

dgirluk · 03/02/2022 12:58

He's being awful! Maybe he wants to vegetate on holiday (which would trouble me anyway if it's not compatible with what you like to do, thinking of future holidays), but someone else is paying, and it will make her happy for him to do these things. At least do them, and do them with good grace !

Kbyodjs · 03/02/2022 13:00

What an ungrateful sod; it sounds amazing (I wouldn’t want to do the bird watching but he’s not being forced to)

Eleganz · 03/02/2022 13:01

Okay bear with me here on this one. Okay let's accept your boyfriend's utter lack of tact and seeming devoidness of gratitude. Let me ask you a couple of questions:

Did your aunt:

  1. Specify the make and model of the car your brother bought
  2. inputted into the design of your sister's extension?

My guessing is not or at least not the same extent as choosing the location, timing and activities on your holiday. You boyfriend is being an arse, but to be far he has little to no agency about this holiday at all, it may be free but it is still using his annual leave.

I'm all for chiding him for his lack of gratitude, but perhaps try involving him in making some of the decisions about some of the activities a bit more. I know you are mentioning these things to him but it sounds like that is only happening after a good discussion between you and your aunt focussing on either what you both like or what you both 'think' he would want to do.

I think that he needs to stop being an arse but I think you and aunty need to stop letting excitement get you too carried away and look at planning the holiday for the people actually going on it if that is to be you and your boyfriend.

Eleganz · 03/02/2022 13:02

@dgirluk

He's being awful! Maybe he wants to vegetate on holiday (which would trouble me anyway if it's not compatible with what you like to do, thinking of future holidays), but someone else is paying, and it will make her happy for him to do these things. At least do them, and do them with good grace !
I'm not sure that I would be happy having my holiday time activities entirely dictated to by someone even if they are paying!

In that case I'd rather have a new car or an extension.

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