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Rethinking entire relationship - overreacting?

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PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

I’ve been separated from my ex husband for several years and just before Christmas my divorce finally came through. I’ve been dating a man for nearly 2 years and am very much in love.

My completely potty but very lovely aunt very sadly has terminal cancer. She decided that rather than leave money to people in her will she was going to buy all her closest friends and family a gift that she thought they’d like. She bought my brother a new car, paid for an extension for my sister and has paid for an incredibly OTT holiday for myself and my boyfriend. We’re due to fly out over half term.

The holiday she booked is to a place that she knows I’d be interested in as I’m a keen birdwatcher. She’s also into birding and said this place was one of the most beautiful places she’d ever been to and you’re pretty much guaranteed to see some really interesting birds. It’s also a big tourist place in the Caribbean but loads of history, beautiful waterfalls and jungles too. She’s been getting so excited planning it all, it’s really taken her mind off the whole dying a slow painful death situation (her words, btw). She’s booked amazing excursions for pretty much everyday apart from the day we arrive and the day we leave.

One excursion she was considering booking is for a walk through the jungle and then tubing down the river back to where you start with a bit of birdwatching on the way. She asked me to ask my boyfriend if he wanted to go on that one as she knows he’s not interested in birdwatching and might just want a day by the beach/ pool. I asked boyfriend and said that it’s only looking at birds on the way. We won’t be dressed up as bushes and squatting be silently for hours waiting for a particular sight, it will just be a walk through the jungle with binoculars and a bird guide book and then tubing back. Boyfriend looked unimpressed and said that he didn’t really fancy it, that was fine, I was happy to do it by myself as there will be other people there so aunt just booked it for me.

He then called me back a couple of hours later asking if there were any other mad activities he should be aware of because he’s going on holiday to relax, not to go on some kind of Bataan Death March. I laughed and said that she’s only organised a few other things - an evening sunset sail with a beach picnic, a boat trip out to a shipwreck for snorkelling and a tour of a fort and a rum distillery. He loves sailing and history so it didn’t cross my mind that he wouldn’t want to do this. He said he really didn’t want to do any of it. He wanted to not have to worry about timings on holiday and had no intention of moving from the sun lounger other than for the occasional dip and trip to the bar. He said I should do those things on my own if I was determined to do them but he would be staying at the hotel. He said he’s not going through the hell of a 10 hour flight (first class! I haven’t told him that yet though, aunt wanted it to be a surprise) to then be dragged out of bed at first light for a coach trip to look at a series of small walls.

Fair enough, some people like to not do much on holiday. This will be my first child free holiday since my eldest was born in 2012. Boyfriend has his boys 50/50 but has had regular holidays on his own as he stays at his parents in Lanzarote a few times a year. When we are together we regularly go on long walks, he doesn’t mind sitting and having a cup of tea and reading the paper while I do a bit of birdwatching for a couple of hours. We visit NT places and he loves a good castle. Yet on holiday to a beautiful place all he wants to do is sit. The hotel is in a town with loads of restaurants and bars and he even said he didn’t really fancy leaving the hotel to explore that as we are staying all inclusive so what is the point.

I don’t want to do an evening sunset cruise and beach barbecue by myself. I’ll feel a right tit. It’s really made me see him in a whole new, boring light. Miserable did.

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thepeopleversuswork · 03/02/2022 15:02

I think that would be a dealbreaker tbh.

I can understand that that fairly regimented approach to a holiday wouldn't be for everyone but if I was being taken on a holiday anywhere I would accept it with good grace and button it.

I also can't think of anything worse than lying around for days on holiday, although I accept a lot of people would disagree on this.

He sounds spoiled, entitled and whingy.

passtheparsnips · 03/02/2022 15:04

take the free holiday part out of it - if you wanted to go on this particular holiday and do those activities and he didn't want to, would you go with him or go with a friend who did want to do it all?

Od130990 · 03/02/2022 15:07

Honestly Op I'd take someone else.
What a lovely thoughtful aunt you have, she sounds like an amazing brave woman.
Your boyfriend sounds like a selfish, entitled ungrateful brat 🤷🏻‍♀️

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 15:12

Sadly aunt is definitely too ill to come. I’m hoping my friend can come instead but it’s only a couple of weeks away now so it might be a bit difficult to rearrange. Dp was with me at Christmas when aunt was trying to find things to buy me. He was there when we were talking about all the places she said we should visit when we went so I don’t know why he seems surprised that we’re booked to go to them. I wouldn’t consider it a massively regimented holiday - we’re there for 6 days and doing 4 excursions, dp would be joining me on 3 excursions, they’re all doing activities that he normally does in his leisure time anyway and the longest one involves us being out of the hotel for 3 hours.

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Bookworm20 · 03/02/2022 15:25

That holiday sounds amazing! A beach picnic and sunset boat ride, snorkelling, what on earth is his problem?
Only reason I can think is because he feels he is being dictated to? And is the sort to take that the wrong way? Even so, its coming over as incredibly ungrateful.

I think I'd be telling him how you want him to come with you and experience all these amazing things together. If he wants to sit on a sun lounger by a pool your may as well just go to Spain. I'd certainly be telling him he needs to commit to the holiday (and those amazing excursions) or he doesn't come and you will go with someone who will enjoy all of that with you. The complete package that is being offered too you. For free no less! It will totally ruin the experience for you if hes sat on a sun lounger getting pissed all day. You'd actually be better off going on your own tbh if thats his only plan.

Songlyrics · 03/02/2022 15:29

I think it depends what he's like in other aspects of your life.

How is he about travel in general? Is he just not very adventurous? ( I'm not counting Lanzarote if he goes regularly to visit family). Does he find travel stressful or anxiety-inducing?

Is he considerate in other ways? Is he emotionally supportive of your aunt's illness?

Because your aunt is planning it and it's an emotional thing for both of you, he may feel he has no voice and that he hasn't been consulted. The fact that it's free doesn't mean he should automatically want to do it. The bit where he said he wasn't interested in the immediate bars and restaurants is a bit odd, but perhaps he's now in a bit of a sulk because he's been left out of the planning?

You haven't told him about the first class flights as you want it to be a surprise, but this isn't a holiday that's been booked for his benefit so why does it need to be a surprise? Playing devil's advocate, it does possibly sound as though you floated the idea of a vague, undefined Carribbean holiday, he readily agreed, and then without his input you and your aunt have planned it all out, whilst withholding at least one detail from him. That doesn't really seem like a good way to arrange a couple's holiday to me. It seems more like a bonding experience for you and your aunt, which would be completely reasonable, but probably not the best measure of your relationship with your DP.

Electriq · 03/02/2022 15:30

Id be telling him if he doesn't want to join the excursions with you then you will be asking a friend to go instead as this holiday means a lot to you.

Then he either bucks his idea's up or lets someone else go and enjoy it

TheGoldenWolfFleece · 03/02/2022 15:32

Id go with someone else. Even if he doesn't fancy them, he should go because this isn't just a holiday - this is for you to experience all the things your aunt wishes she could have experienced with you. If he doesn't want to be with you as you do it what's the point in him going?

Neveragain85 · 03/02/2022 15:33

If I was you I would also be rethinking the relationship

LoisWilkersonslastnerve · 03/02/2022 15:35

What an amazing woman your Aunt isFlowers Definitely take someone you'll have fun with op.

ambushedbywine · 03/02/2022 15:43

I think it’s probably a clash of expectations. I’d feel similarly to your bf about activities. But I think you’ve had one idea and he had another. Try to talk it through, I’m sure it’s salvagable.

Shoxfordian · 03/02/2022 15:52

He sounds very ungrateful really
Take someone else if you can

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 15:53

I’ve only been on holiday with him once before as we’ve only been together 2 years so it’s mostly been during Covid. I was planning to take my dc to Portugal and he said he wanted to come too. He paid for it but I booked everything and he showed little to no interest in where we were staying, just told me to book whatever I thought was best and hadn’t looked up the hotel or area or anything before we actually went. I don’t think he gets anxious travelling or anything like that. When we were in Portugal I don’t think he left the hotel once. I’d planned to do stuff with my dc’s most days as it was only a small hotel and most of the guests were adults so I didn’t want my dc dive bombing in the pool all day and pissing everyone off. I didn’t mind dp not coming with us as it was mostly little zoos, aquariums and a water park that we visited which I know isn’t his scene at all. I was a bit irritated that he point blank refused to come to the water park with us as it meant that ds1 couldn’t go on any of the faster slides as I couldn’t be in two places at once. But we had a good time anyway.

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Lorw · 03/02/2022 15:55

Take someone else OP. I think for such a special holiday a best friend or sibling would be better, if you two broke up it would put a bit of a dampener on the memories of the holiday, even more so if he ruins the holiday with his grumpiness.

AlternativePerspective · 03/02/2022 15:59

Quite aside from the fact he’s being a bit of a twat, who the hell goes on a holiday to an exotic country and doesn’t even leave the hotel? He might as well go to the costa del sole.

Even if he wasn’t being such a twat about this holiday, the fact he has so little interest in the world around him would put me right off.

Shoxfordian · 03/02/2022 15:59

He’s already shown you what he’s like on holidays then; why expect anything different?

mrsrat · 03/02/2022 16:01

Well I'm going to go against the majority. This would drive me insane. I get the sentiment but your aunt is YOUR AUNT not his

Interrobanger · 03/02/2022 16:01

You went to Portugal and he didn’t leave the hotel? What a boring bastard. What on earth did your kids make of it? Some sulky man festering in his room while you guys were out having fun. Sounds like a strange dynamic.

Does he have any good qualities? Is he really good in bed or something? What do you have in common?

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 16:01

@lorw I think you’re right. I think telling him I don’t want him to come on the holiday any longer will mean we probably split up but I’m so looking forward to this holiday and want to spend it enjoying the things my aunt and I loved doing together. If I’m compromising to make him feel better or getting irritated with him for not wanting to do anything it will really spoil it. Hopefully my friend will be able to come but if not I’ll be perfectly happy going on my own. I might skip the sunset sail with a picnic on a beach on my own though, that seems a bit too tragic.

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RubyKitty · 03/02/2022 16:02

Tell him he either gets on board or he doesn’t go and you can take a friend who won’t ruin your trip

Opus17 · 03/02/2022 16:02

He's being an ungrateful and insensitive arse and it sounds a bit like you're incompatible in this area (holidays).
I'd take someone else, op. Someone who will enjoy the activities and appreciate what this holiday actually means

getsomehelp · 03/02/2022 16:04

I went to Australia, as a special holiday to celebrate the memory of my deceased Dad. I took H, & 2 kids.... He was a miserable arsehole throughout. In reality, he is just not interested in travelling, feels uncomfortable, is completely unnerved by not speaking the language & a total liability. I even wrote our apartment address on a piece paper & told him to give it to the cab driver if he got lost, an 8 year old would have been less of a dead weight

Tell him to stay behind

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 16:07

@Interrobanger he is a nice guy, a really good laugh and we had loads of similar interests. I’m fresh out of a long marriage though and have made it clear from the beginning that I never want to live with anyone else, get married, do blended families or anything like that. We spend EOW together and normally one evening a week too and that’s all I want. That’s why I wasn’t too fussed about him not joking dc and I on activities on holiday. I don’t want a family set up like that, he’s very much my boyfriend rather than their stepfather or anything like that.

The daft thing is that he’s normally really outgoing. He goes sailing most weekends, we are (slowly) walking the SW coast path together, we swim in the sea together all year round. Which is why it’s so weird that he won’t consider doing even vaguely similar things on holiday. He didn’t seem interested in the details of the holiday so my aunt and I booked things that we know he likes. But he can’t be arsed to move from a sunbed to sit on a yacht for a couple of hours because to him that’s a holiday that’s organised within an inch of its life and he couldn’t possibly relax Confused

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billy1966 · 03/02/2022 16:08

What a wonderful trip.

He has shown form so I think after portugal you shouldn't be surprised.

He sounds very ungracious though and certainly isn't going to put himself out for you on holiday.

He certainly sounds quite self absorbed so if you can bring a friend I definitely would.

Sounds like your aunt has done you a bigger favour than the holiday.

Flowers
1forAll74 · 03/02/2022 16:16

It would be better for him,to not be included in this great holiday,if there are so many things that he turns his nose up at. And just goes along with you having this experience,, maybe with another person for your company,,. He has no connection with your Aunt., so should not have any issues, if he has to stay out of this situation, which is a personal thing for you.

Not sure if you have to rethink things about your relationship because of this, unless he is apt to be iffy about lots of other things.