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Rethinking entire relationship - overreacting?

219 replies

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 12:26

I’ve been separated from my ex husband for several years and just before Christmas my divorce finally came through. I’ve been dating a man for nearly 2 years and am very much in love.

My completely potty but very lovely aunt very sadly has terminal cancer. She decided that rather than leave money to people in her will she was going to buy all her closest friends and family a gift that she thought they’d like. She bought my brother a new car, paid for an extension for my sister and has paid for an incredibly OTT holiday for myself and my boyfriend. We’re due to fly out over half term.

The holiday she booked is to a place that she knows I’d be interested in as I’m a keen birdwatcher. She’s also into birding and said this place was one of the most beautiful places she’d ever been to and you’re pretty much guaranteed to see some really interesting birds. It’s also a big tourist place in the Caribbean but loads of history, beautiful waterfalls and jungles too. She’s been getting so excited planning it all, it’s really taken her mind off the whole dying a slow painful death situation (her words, btw). She’s booked amazing excursions for pretty much everyday apart from the day we arrive and the day we leave.

One excursion she was considering booking is for a walk through the jungle and then tubing down the river back to where you start with a bit of birdwatching on the way. She asked me to ask my boyfriend if he wanted to go on that one as she knows he’s not interested in birdwatching and might just want a day by the beach/ pool. I asked boyfriend and said that it’s only looking at birds on the way. We won’t be dressed up as bushes and squatting be silently for hours waiting for a particular sight, it will just be a walk through the jungle with binoculars and a bird guide book and then tubing back. Boyfriend looked unimpressed and said that he didn’t really fancy it, that was fine, I was happy to do it by myself as there will be other people there so aunt just booked it for me.

He then called me back a couple of hours later asking if there were any other mad activities he should be aware of because he’s going on holiday to relax, not to go on some kind of Bataan Death March. I laughed and said that she’s only organised a few other things - an evening sunset sail with a beach picnic, a boat trip out to a shipwreck for snorkelling and a tour of a fort and a rum distillery. He loves sailing and history so it didn’t cross my mind that he wouldn’t want to do this. He said he really didn’t want to do any of it. He wanted to not have to worry about timings on holiday and had no intention of moving from the sun lounger other than for the occasional dip and trip to the bar. He said I should do those things on my own if I was determined to do them but he would be staying at the hotel. He said he’s not going through the hell of a 10 hour flight (first class! I haven’t told him that yet though, aunt wanted it to be a surprise) to then be dragged out of bed at first light for a coach trip to look at a series of small walls.

Fair enough, some people like to not do much on holiday. This will be my first child free holiday since my eldest was born in 2012. Boyfriend has his boys 50/50 but has had regular holidays on his own as he stays at his parents in Lanzarote a few times a year. When we are together we regularly go on long walks, he doesn’t mind sitting and having a cup of tea and reading the paper while I do a bit of birdwatching for a couple of hours. We visit NT places and he loves a good castle. Yet on holiday to a beautiful place all he wants to do is sit. The hotel is in a town with loads of restaurants and bars and he even said he didn’t really fancy leaving the hotel to explore that as we are staying all inclusive so what is the point.

I don’t want to do an evening sunset cruise and beach barbecue by myself. I’ll feel a right tit. It’s really made me see him in a whole new, boring light. Miserable did.

OP posts:
THisbackwithavengeance · 03/02/2022 13:03

He's a miserable, selfish, ungrateful cunt.

Tell him to book a week in Benidorm instead if he just wants to piss it up by the pool and watch Sky Sports.

And take someone else who will appreciate it.

MMmomDD · 03/02/2022 13:03

How unwell is your aunt currently? Can she possibly go on this holiday with you instead of the ungrateful selfish guy you are dating?

HopefulProcrastinator · 03/02/2022 13:12

You don't know me at all but I can guarantee you'd have a better time on such an amazing holiday with a complete stranger like me than you would with this ungrateful pillock!

I really hope there's someone you can transfer the booking to who would love to explore with you and you could enjoy the time with...even if not romantically.

Sorry to hear about your aunty, she sounds like a wonderful woman Flowers

formalineadeline · 03/02/2022 13:14

Take someone else. It is not just him opting out of the activities but his nasty attitude to something with such huge emotional significance for you.

You'll always remember this holiday and connect it with your aunt - the last thing you need is for those memories to be dominated by how he hurt you during that time with his selfish and callous behaviour.

user94747295 · 03/02/2022 13:15

Your auntie sounds like a lovely woman. And so do you! You deserve better than this piece of shit man who is entitled and insensitive.

Please consider taking someone else.

I hope you have a great time and sorry about the circumstances of the holiday

Ohpulltheotherone · 03/02/2022 13:16

I think it’s fair to not want to do activities you don’t want to do day in day out -

But when you’re in a relationship you compromise, which sometimes means you go along to a trip or an event which isn’t your vibe but you do it bc partner loves it and you love them. So he may not pick a moonlight cruise himself but assuming he’s not terrified of the sea, there’s no real reason not to go with you because you will enjoy it.

The next day, you do something together that he enjoys and so forth.
That’s how relationships work - it’s not a dictatorship.

It sounds like across the whole holiday there are 3 or 4 organised events and one of those you’ve already agreed that he’ll skip - so it sounds perfectly balanced to me.

I personally wouldn’t have an issue with him diplomatically saying let’s compromise and both get to do things we enjoy but his attitude and the way he’s gone about it sound so so disrespectful and ungrateful.

I am not surprised it’s turned you off, he’s shown zero emotional maturity or tact. He sounds ungrateful and dismissive - that’s what I’d struggle with most. He’s dismissing all the work your aunt has put in and he’s dismissing all the things you want to experience.

Donkeyinamanger · 03/02/2022 13:18

I don't think you are overreacting. It sounds like he is willing to ruin this holiday for you, and that you are just not compatible on how you want to spend your downtime. The holiday, and your aunt sound bloody amazing though.

Tamworth123 · 03/02/2022 13:22

@Interrobanger

What a spoilt entitled cunt. It’s not even his aunt. He’s just had a free, once in a lifetime holiday to the Caribbean dropped into his lap! But rather than be grateful and happy and sensitive to the meaning of the trip, he just moans about how he has to get off his arse and go and look at some gorgeous scenery instead of doing fuck all except drinking all day.

Fuck him. He doesn’t deserve such generosity. I’d be so turned off I’d have to dump him.

Take your best friend instead.

This.
Owlink · 03/02/2022 13:23

Horrible attitude. Please take someone else; he'll just ruin it and your final memories of your wonderful aunt will be tarnished.

dgirluk · 03/02/2022 13:26

@Eleganz (I can't quote for some reason) - I think if someone was dying, and had conjured up this idea, and I wasn't otherwise getting a holiday, I'd be incredibly grateful. Perhaps I'd want some alone time to chill and get some sun (God I've missed that over the last couple of years), but I wouldn't be taking the attitude that he seems to be. If I desperately wanted that sunbed time, perhaps it would be appropriate to do some of the activities, and not others.

But actually to say - I'm going to lay on a subbed, no matter what you want to do, and no matter what the person giving the gift has put time and energy into arranging - seems very selfish.

And personally I'm not sure I'd ever feel comfortable saying.. well thanks, but I don't want it, buy me something else instead. That just seems selfish and money grabbing.

But for me it's 2 issues; firstly that he doesn't seem willing to compromise with the person he's going on holiday with (not by doing everything she wants, but by basically doing nothing), or willing to compromise for the sake of a dying and generous relative (even if by relationship rather than blood).

Daenerys77 · 03/02/2022 13:43

Sounds rather churlish of him. I appreciate that he didn't choose the holiday, but you know, gift horses. And isn't being mildly bored in pleasant surroundings now and then part of the deal when you go on holiday with a companion?

WonderfulYou · 03/02/2022 13:47

Your excursions sound like my dream and I can think nothing worse than spending the whole time lazing but a pool and not seeing the sights.

However I know everyone is different and if you were doing something like skydiving I wouldn’t be happy either.
I don’t think it’s something you should end your relationship over even though he comes across as very spoilt in your OP.

I agree with a PP can you take a friend or family member instead and tell him you’ll go away together for a lazier holiday a different time.

Is you Aunt too poorly to go?
It sounds like she would have a great time.

Kitfish · 03/02/2022 13:50

I hate to rain on your parade but any gift in excess of £3000 per year (in aggregate) within 7 years of death are subject to inheritance tax (at 40%). depending on how much your aunt leaves (and who else she has left gifts to), you may find that you ar epresented with an inheritance tax bill for 40% of the value of the holiday a few months after she passes away. Just thought you should be made aware of this risk.

I have nothing useful to add on your immediate dilema.

Sparkletastic · 03/02/2022 13:52

I'm very much in the sun bed / bar camp but your DP has handled this appallingly. I think his choice is come on the free holiday as offered and participate willingly in the activities in honour of your aunt OR accept that he is no longer invited.

Interrobanger · 03/02/2022 13:54

Your aunt is doing this because she wants your wonderful memories of this trip to be her legacy.

If your memories are tainted by him being a sulky arsehole and spoiling it for you, all your aunt's generous efforts will have been for nothing.

It's not even as if he's politely declining some of the activities because they're not really his thing. That would be understandable. Your OP suggests that he's being a rude dick about it into the equation.

So I would just remove him from the equation entirely.

Aria2015 · 03/02/2022 14:02

My goodness, he sounds so ungrateful and entitled. He's made this free holiday all about his wants and needs. Hasn't considered your aunt and her absolutely generous and kind intentions and seemingly isn't remotely bothered by what you want to do either. I would honestly take a friend or sibling instead. Just tell him that this holiday is just too special for you to compromise on and that if he can't be grateful for this wonderful (once in a lifetime for most people!) gift, then you'll share it someone who will fully appreciate it.

florentina1 · 03/02/2022 14:18

I seem to have a different take on this to other posters. A lot of assumptions were made about what he would like, without consulting him. I don’t think it relevant how many opportunities he has to travel. This holiday was for both of you. He is your partner not a paid companion, therefore he should get a say in what activities he does.

I would not split over it. Tell him which activity you would like him to accompany you and enjoy the others with good grace.

Chloemol · 03/02/2022 14:21

I. I would be worried he obviously wants completely different holidays to you

  1. I would be telling him that you would like him to join the excursions as it’s unlikely you will be able to afford to do this again, and you would like to do them jointly with him
3 I would actually be seriously considering taking someone else and leaving him at home
Winchestercollege · 03/02/2022 14:26

It sounds like an argument where positions have become entrenched. I have to agree that being made to go and see a series of small walls sounds grim and he is rather entertaining.

I hate being told what to do. Perhaps this is all said in frustration.

Agapornis · 03/02/2022 14:33

I'm a birder - take me!
That said, I'm a single birder and go on holidays alone Grin

smittenkittennn · 03/02/2022 14:33

@Kitfish

I hate to rain on your parade but any gift in excess of £3000 per year (in aggregate) within 7 years of death are subject to inheritance tax (at 40%). depending on how much your aunt leaves (and who else she has left gifts to), you may find that you ar epresented with an inheritance tax bill for 40% of the value of the holiday a few months after she passes away. Just thought you should be made aware of this risk.

I have nothing useful to add on your immediate dilema.

Not even close. She has to have gifted gifts in excess of £325,000 in the 7 years before her death before the gift recipient is subject to IHT. The £3,000 per year is just a "freebie" gift allowance each year.

www.gov.uk/inheritance-tax

PossiblyDreaming · 03/02/2022 14:33

@Eleganz no, aunt didn’t specify any of the things for my brother or sister. She asked me what I wanted, I said I really didn’t want anything as there’s nothing I need. She suggested Grenada as it’s somewhere she’s always said she wanted to go back to to go bird watching with me. I jumped at the chance and she booked the activities, knowing they’d be things I enjoyed as we’ve been on holiday together many times before. I asked dp if he wanted to come and he seemed very, very keen. All the activities we’re doing are 2/3 hours apart from the bird watching one which is why I checked with him to see if he wanted to do it. He didn’t which was fine and I was happy to go alone. I think it’s really crap he won’t do the other things though. It’s not like we’d be getting up early or spending all day out and about or even doing anything physically tiring. It’s eating a picnic, having a quick dip in the sea with a snorkel and going to a rum distillery.

OP posts:
HeddaGarbled · 03/02/2022 14:34

I think he’s got a point. While I completely understand the motivation behind this level of planning on the part of your aunt, it is presumptuous and over-controlling.

Interrobanger · 03/02/2022 14:44

Poor bloke. Being coerced into trip to a rum distillery and a picnic on a Caribbean beach. Anyone would be furious!

MiniCooperLover · 03/02/2022 14:51

OK, he's dealt with this badly but I assume he wasn't asked at all whether he actually wanted to do any of these activities? One of my biggest hates is having my time organised for me and that would be doubly true if I was on holiday. You initially say something has been planned for every day bar your first and last day. I would not be happy with that. It very much feels like a holiday with strings and that would not work for me, regardless of who is paying.

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